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Re: Star Trek: Starfleet Academy
piraterepublic wrote: the inability of a advanced technology universe unable to find a runaway child ( EVER ) Technology doesn't matter without infrastructure and the people to maintain it; anyone can hide anywhere if noone is actually sharing information, and he wasn't even close to anyone's priority.
I seem to recall Spock tracking Kirk half way across the system with nothing more than a patch he put on the admiral's jacket. {I think ST:VI when he was taken into custody by {real} Klingons. Are they really suggesting that prisoners aren't tagged with a transponder shot right into the hip bone or something? I mean we have I.V. drills to do this for rapid fluid's infusion. Its not some giant leap. Heck, they should be able to beam it into a bone marrow 'someplace' and then the convict doesn't even know where to look. They really can't have it both ways: Either Mir was in custody so long he became a tech expert, jail house lawyer and expert debater, access to all those resources along with a perfectly built "prison buff" build which has its own nutritional needs and resources, or he was a convict constantly on the run and treated like shyte for 17 years.
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Star Trek has always been a beacon of forward thinking; it’s a shame when you haven’t grown enough to truly appreciate progress.
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I kinda like this show. But the hate on the web for it is huge. Every where I look, there are tons of articles bitching and complaining. Youtube is full of hate. But I just read they are filming season 2, so if thats all we get I will be happy. I just do not understand the hate for this show. I am sure if I really enjoyed it, it would have been cancelled by now. Such is my luck.
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inkblot wrote:I just do not understand the hate for this show.
Before I start... Are you interested in a calm, adult conversation about the *why* - with 60 year old, and 35 year Klingon cosplayer that lived through all the legacy Trek in real time, and was a part of the fanbase for decades?
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The most recent episode wasn't great, but reasonably good. If they could keep the quality around that level on average, it would be a reasonably decent show, even for the Star Trek name. They even got the Klingons roughly right - especially if we keep in mind that it's after centuries of cultural exchange with the Federation. SgtSaint wrote:I seem to recall Spock tracking Kirk half way across the system with nothing more than a patch he put on the admiral's jacket. {I think ST:VI when he was taken into custody by {real} Klingons.
Star Trek has many strengths, but complete consistency in what is and isn't possible has never been one. We'd all prefer that it were. SgtSaint wrote:Are they really suggesting that prisoners aren't tagged with a transponder shot right into the hip bone or something? I mean we have I.V. drills to do this for rapid fluid's infusion. Its not some giant leap. Heck, they should be able to beam it into a bone marrow 'someplace' and then the convict doesn't even know where to look. They really can't have it both ways: Either Mir was in custody so long he became a tech expert, jail house lawyer and expert debater, access to all those resources along with a perfectly built "prison buff" build which has its own nutritional needs and resources, or he was a convict constantly on the run and treated like shyte for 17 years.
He wasn't in prison as a kid at all. He wasn't even a fugitive at first, only a runaway. It's an orphanage that he escaped from, not prison. Only his mother went to prison. When he ran away, he wasn't tracked because he was just some random kid and nobody except the chancellor lady had the time to even care. "One less mouth to feed", basically. He then spent years surviving on his own, staying off every possible grid. That latter part wouldn't have been too hard while most planets were barely having any communication at all. Whatever stuff he did learn, it happened during that time. He was then eventually arrested on some random planet for something he had recently done there, and the moment he was booked, the Federation immediately found him and got him out. He was only in there for a week or so.
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I'll give ya that there is a difference between being a convict and a run-away kid. But by that point I don't think orphanage or prison makes much of a difference about whether or not a tracker would be put on the kids. By that point it would be such ubiquitous tech as to be used throughout anyplace that was part of "the system" and where accountability for kids or convicts was important. "oh, we lost track of 50 kids this week" isn't acceptable now, let alone when its that easy to avoid it. And that at this point in the little bit of backstory that's been revealed we don't know how many years of each. We do know Mir said "When you are in prison knowledge is how you survive." and we can surmise a fair guess about how much time was in prison by the amount of jailhouse lawyering he learned. But not much more than that. So fair point. some_one wrote:They even got the Klingons roughly right
No. Not even close. Sorry. I can only assume you didn't watch the shows that developed the Klingon culture/race like TNG and DS9; even VOY. And that's fine-They were decades ago and I get that sub 50 year olds aren't in to watching shows that old. Or perhaps like a lot of fans "Star Trek" was really only synonymous with "Starfleet" and not a lot of concern for the other races was important for your enjoyment of the show in general terms; and that's cool too. But trust me as someone that's been deeply Klingon since Trek was new and watched it all week-to-week... Part of clubs dedicated to Klingons... Can speak the language and so on... Kurtzman/Abrams Trek has basically only destroyed the Klingons with every new show. I will give credit where it is due though. Despite the dumpster fire of Discovery they did a good job of including the language. You can even watch the first 2 years using a Klingon audio track or Klingon subtitles. Mary Chieftan even learned the language to do it justice. You don't see that kind of dedication very often. But that only makes it even weirder that they would go through all that dedication for one aspect, yet ruin everything else about the Klingons. Its an odd position to take. 
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Big difference between a fanatic, casual and spectator. I am sorry for your loss. I would be pissed to, if something I loved went this far off the rails. But yay for me, I don't give a crap.
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I just realized who Gayden the Klingon from Star Trek Academy is. s01e04 just blasted it into my brain. He's "Dex of the Yautja" from Predator Badlands. • Difficent little brother. • Warrior older brother had to die to further his story. • Father wants nothing to do with this runt. • Lives in a hut even though they have an advanced ship right there to live in. • Right down to the bow and needing to complete a hunt/kill to prove himself.
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Any show that ignores 60 years of cannon and lore will be and always be poorly written. trashing the Klingons was the final straw - never mind that in TV cannon they had hundreds of conquered worlds and colonies. buuuuut their almost extinct now, also note that when the Feds declare war, all the Klingons show up in a minute, you know 5 days travel here, a week there\, lets just all ignore that. we fans don't know what we are talking about. join me in not watching another second of this trash
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I don't think anyone is watching it for the sake of watching it. Anyone watching it is either a YouTuber mining it for content: Which I think is good. If there isn't a voice against this trash then it will never get fixed Or they are fans just wanting to partake in the social media discussions of it. Kind of like "if you don't vote you can't complain", only its "if you don't see it, you can't join in the talks". Which again goes back to keeping up the pressure to not keep churning out this junk. I don't know anyone watching it through official channels or in ways that count as statistical viewers.
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I am currently watching it. Its the only new science fiction out there. I was ready to throw in the towel, but the show surprised me. I wish it had more adult type content. But for now I will watch it and like it.
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I have changed my mind. I just watched the atrocity of a show. I stuck with it as long as I could. But that Hologram is the most annoying kid ever. And is that Klingon a cross dresser? He has bigger tits than my wife. And he dresses odd. This is not an adult show, its is more for kids. I will keep watching it, but I reserve the right to not like it. Still cant believe I watched the whole thing. ▼Spoiler The only thing that kept me watching was Sisko, I would have settled for some old cut-scenes. I was hoping he would show up. Not at the end doing a small voice over. And not the son that no longer resembles him.

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inkblot wrote:And is that Klingon a cross dresser? He has bigger tits than my wife.
For your sake, I hope your wife doesn't use this forum as well 
I'd say Episode 4 is probably the most "Orville"-like episode so far...only difference is that The Orville probably would've done a better job with the character... Did I get that right:
▼Spoiler She is a photonic being created by other photonic beings? So what makes her different than her creators? How can they even make something different than themselves if they have no interaction with other species? If they had little to no interaction with organic people, why is she acting like a human teenager (teenager being a stretch, more like a 5 year old)....wouldn't it make more sense if she is like Isaac (Orville) or Data and has to learn to feel and appreciate things?
I also never thought I see the day where they do a fart joke in Star Trek...ufff. Last but not least...I really hate it when actors play different roles in the same universe unless it's part of the plot, breaks the immersion for me > Tawny Newsome (Lower Decks) as Professor Illa Dax in this episode...I know this shouldn't matter but for me it does.
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read this headline "Star Trek Boss Says Starfleet Academy Has “Limitless Engine” For Future Seasons" someone thinks they could make this show like grays anatomy 24 or 25 seasons... they are already making season 2

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piraterepublic wrote:read this headline "Star Trek Boss Says Starfleet Academy Has “Limitless Engine” For Future Seasons" someone thinks they could make this show like grays anatomy
24 or 25 seasons... they are already making season 2
If they are already doing a Season 2, my guess would be there will also be a Season 3...but that's about it...also considering no Star Trek show has made it past 7 seasons so far.
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Hello again, just thought i'd drop in and update. So I stopped watching at ep3, and even that I just flicked through. I am glad someone actually likes this program, as I want everyone to be happy. Unfortunately this utter nonsense just made me sad  It's like these days, every franchise MUST be milked to death, at the expense of quality. Not to worry though, theres A Knight of Seven Kingdoms, The Pendragon Cycle, and I just found True Detective Series 4! So all is not lost! Onwards and upwards!
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WilliamDrakeMcGregor wrote:If they are already doing a Season 2, my guess would be there will also be a Season 3...but that's about it...also considering no Star Trek show has made it past 7 seasons so far.
The basically filmed 1 & 2 together. Saves costs and energy to have all the actors, crew and sets up at the same time. And... well... That's only 20 episodes. That's still less than a normal broadcast season of 22-24 episodes. There's really nothing new about filming 20 episodes in one block and I think these streamers are starting to get an understanding of the finances and logistics that really go in to making a show. Now the crew and cast are free for... 24 months to do other projects without this show being on near-horizon, while the post-production digital staff work the second 10 episodes. The downside of this is lack of feedback. Halo The Series had time between their season 1 & 2 to hear audience feedback and did a massive amount of course correction; even if it wasn't enough to keep the gamers from crying. They were still able to do it. Here with SF:A filming the first 20 episodes in a block means that two of their stream seasons are going to carry the same tones, same writing, same problems. When the show at this point is basically just canon fodder for YouTubers as every episode gets more cringe than the previous, one must wonder how low the show will sink in the remain 15 or so episodes yet to air. Personally I'm not betting on a season 3 - but almost ready to start a pool on how many get aired before its yanked off the air. My prediction: Since season 2 has been shot... They post process it... then dump it on the servers all at once. They'll bill it as a gift to the viewers so they can bing it. Or trying something new to the other shows to judge the response to a full season drop. However they need to present it to save face. But it would be better for them to do that and get one news-cycle of reviews than to have a second week-to-week season where they get dragged through the YouTubes for 10 consecutive weeks.
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I agree. I will watch (if only for Robert Picardo). I just finished episode 3. I blame the writers and creators. I was holding out hope for Strange New Worlds but that is also heading for disappointment. Maybe the franchise has just run it's course. WilliamDrakeMcGregor wrote:SgtSaint wrote:Any adult Trek fans have any positive hopes for this after seeing the comments by someone that has seen the first 5 or 6 episodes?
I always have some hope for a Star Trek series...but from the Trailer (and poster) this looks like a high school teen drama which is not something I want from Star Trek  I only watched the second video you linked becaue the first sounds like too much of a spoiler trap. The second video reminds me of Police Academy which I can't see really working in Star Trek but we will see  Gonna give it at least 2 episodes.
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Gene Roddenberry must be rolling over in his grave. This franchise has been off the rails since Discovery. They even tried to throw us a bone with Picard, but it just didn't work. I was holding out hope for Strange New Worlds but it just seems like more of the same. I am a diehard so I will watch Academy (if only for Robert Picardo). It's time to get rid of Kurtzman and Abrahms.
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This is just one disappointment after another. Since the franchise got relaunched on Paramount+ with Discovery it's been barely recognizable. How much quality are you willing to sacrifice trying to appeal to a younger audience? From the background music to using phrases like "throw down", "asses handed to them", and using the word "shit" all the time. I really don't know what the answer is for this franchise. I long for the days when each episode was an adventure. Not this long, drawn out, excrutiatingly interpersonal drama. Academy could easily have been a 2 hour movie. Not even Robert Picardo can save this mess.
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