Pluribus [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Page 4 of 4)

I liked what WilliamDrakeMcGregor liked about 1x8 and his improved alternative idea, but I also have to agree with you. I had hoped for more whatever to happen in the second half of this season.

Where the hell is everyone? Do they still go to work and get paid? Or just sit smiling at home waiting for Carol to dial em' up for an ice-cold gatorade?

This show must be driving the ding ding dopamine-hit phone dopes around the bend. "I scrolled my phone thru the whole episode and nothing happened. I only looked up from my phone about twice. Most of the episode was silent. No explosions or fistfights or anything. BORRRRING"

i LOVE how nothing happens in this show. This is as close as a TV show gets to a book. Microaural and microvisual voids that are open to as much or as little extrapolation as the viewer deems apt.

Love will save the world. Specifically, the lezzer love between Carol and Ms Hive Hot Bum.

Carol will somehow deprogram her new lezbo lover and reverse the spell. Paraguay man will help her.

But there's only aboot 1 episode left in the season and Paraguay man is still tooling along in his van in Me'heco.

Cliffhanger time! 

Now please wait 3 years for Season 2. Thank you for your patience.

And, yes, this show is action packed, but need to actually watch it There are a lot of original, subtle and defining things, for example,

This show is good in a similar way as Invasion was good. Dopamine is there, just dopamine delivery mechanism is not suited for everybody

I finished the series yesterday and I love it. Yeah, Carol's not particularly likeable (her temper, for me), but I feel sorry she fell for their distraction tactic.

Episode 9 "season final"...very disappointing.

Not even as a mid-season final would this have been acceptable for me.
Nothing in this final gave me a "oh damn, where is this going in Season 2?" or "Can't wait for Season 2!" feeling.

I too enjoyed most of the Season, with Carol being a well written and well acted character. At the beginning I wanted a lot more world building (which I still do) but accepted the character-driven point of view.

But still, just compare it to the two other shows who are currently running and remotely similar:
Fallout and Silo.

Both have similar well written and well acted characters. In their first Season we got a good insight into both characters, their personalities, worldviews and personal drama.
But we also got a heck of a lot more world-building and other characters to balance things out. This show had the same potential but failed on both those counts.

From me: 7/10

Imo this show is great and certainly original. Who said that every aliens/invasion show should be like Men In Black running around fighting little green men? The most plausible theory is that if there are any advanced civilizations who have means to communicate with us, don't do it because we are too primitive, stupid and irrelevant. That's why I love this show, it focuses on humanity flaws and also if somebody would want to invade us, it would be a pretty instant checkmate, because even if we would have a fighting chance, we would waste it arguing or fighting each other

It's very good

The comparison was meant to show the amount of content other than character-development that can be packed into a first Season.
I choose these two shows because of the similar theme with the humanity-ending event where it is to explore what actually happened and who did what.

But yes, all three shows are unique in their own ways

Also, as g371 said, if you like Pluribus and Fallout you should definitely give Silo a try. Season 1 was mind-blowing, Season 2... can be (and was) argued about

Fine if y'all insist... just watched the first two episodes, so far. Syruppy show, that one. It's very conceptual as well, but character-driven much more so than Pluribus. Also puts a lot of emphasis on aesthetics, like Fallout, but keeps it in the background. The main difference between the three is that, in Silo, nobody actually remembers our world (I think), in Fallout some do, while in Pluribus it's the very point of it all. That simple aspect makes a huge difference on how much breathing room the story has. Pluribus deals, and wants to deal, with that above all else. The question "should we go back or find a new way forward?". I think that's what you mean?

That... sure is a take. You know how, if you really go looking for a pattern, you often start seeing it everywhere, even when it's not even there, because you are simply ignoring everything that doesn't fit? Could that be part of what's happening here?

She's very emotional at first because the literally only person in the world she actually ever cared about at all just died, and the people/entity responsible won't leave her alone, or even grieve. But she's ultimately realistic: humans can not survive for long completely on their own, so if she's reliant on them anyway, might as well do it in a way that doesn't force her to change what's left of her familiar life and expend energy that way. After they decide to leave, she eventually asks them to come back, but only after deciding that it's either that or suicide at that point (the rocket aimed at her face), because nothing she still has actually matters to her, and she can't change anything without getting close to them anyhow (that's the very point of them leaving). She's also realistic enough to realize that just yanking out their plug, so to speak, would still kill billions more in the best case, and it would be on her that time.

The difference with Manousos is stubbornness. He liked the way things were and wants to change them back, and doesn't let practicality get in the way of anything. Ultimately, he doesn't accomplish or prove anything to anyone by doing things his way. In fact, he proves the opposite: he would be dead in the middle of the jungle if he hadn't been helped against his will, which was always the most likely outcome. Hell, he's already literally starving before he even decides to leave his house. It also catches him completely off guard that Carol sees some things differently than he does. Almost everything he does in that season is a cautionary tale.

Ah come on. We have a thread about that now. Please take it there.

"Sweet, but moves very slowly". Or maybe it's just something you shouldn't watch while already exhausted.

One thing I don't particularly enjoy, and they do it at least thrice in two episodes of Silo, is the part at the start of such stories where the protagonists are still reluctant to even question the status quo, while we, as the viewer, can already clearly see it's fucked. That extended sequence at the start of Pluribus serves to skip right past that by utterly shattering the old status quo, before even showing us what kind of story it's going to be. I kinda liked that scene as well. But it's not that kinda show. Where other such stories tend to give us at least some kind of birds-eye view in order to fully ponder all the implications, here they take a different approach: They are trying to get us to ask ourselves "what would I, a regular person, do in this situation?". While the other way to do it is more exciting, it is also the path most walked. It's nice to have something different for a change.

Exactly, and that's another thing making Pluribus somewhat unique: it isn't a post-apocalypse to immerse ourselves in. It's barely an apocalypse at all; more of an in-progress one. The closest comparable one I can think of would probably be The Last Man on Earth, a comedy.