Ironheart

Damn, 4.5/10 @ IMDb!

Not sure I really should start watching this...

The commercial alone was Level 100 cringe.  When you have to have everyone tell you you're a genius constantly you're not a genius.  This show was in the can for almost 3 yrs for a reason.  I can't believe Kevin Feige still has a job at this point given the recent list of failures the MCU has suffered at his hands.  This show might actually be worse than the CW's Batwoman, and that would require maximum effort, lol.

Yeah, I remember when the KKK was out protesting Wesley Snipes as Blade and then again when Marvel race swapped Heimdall in the Thor movies.  Oh, don't forget the time they terrorized a bus full of children on their way to see Black Panther - boy that movie tanked cuz of racism.  And don't forget misogyny, I know that's a root cause in your daily life.  No way it could have been terrible writing which led to terrible acting along with absolutely zero character arc since she starts out as the bestest ever Mary Sue.  Well, at least you enjoyed it.

I am a big fan of Marvel and of Iron Man.
I've watched Echo and Secret Invasion even though I didn't like them. I've watched Daredevil: Born Again even though it didn't even remotely measure up to the original.
I have and will give everything that is the MCU a shot, not just one episode but as I've written in this case all three episodes that dropped. I probably will even watch this till the end, even if it won't improve (imho).

Having said that, have you read my spoilers? Do you disagree with the things I have laid out about what I feel is wrong with the first episode - and if so, can you argue against it?

I would love to go into a constructive discussion about this show - what I don't like however is being called a racist just because I do not like a show - and I also don't believe either my comment or that of the others gave any indication of racism. 

As I said, feel free to dispute my spoilers to convince us about what you like about the show.

But, with respect, I think you read what you wanted to read and not what was actually written.

So Episode 2, more confusion than anything else, no answers to questions from EP01 and no improvement to the story.

We get a Joe...what a character, oscar-worthy introduction and development...omg.

3.7 on IMDB

It's not popular at all.

I don't like it, to much talk and not enough action, it's off my list

I think that was the point of the scene? Like, she's not actually struggling just because she's not getting opportunities but actually mostly because she's constantly making bad decisions? The Iron Man films weren't so much about building the suits as they were about becoming less of an asshole. That may be what they were trying to do here as well...

Let's just make a blanket statement that all the tech stuff on the show appears to be bullshit and leave it at that? Seems easier that way.

Well, it's just that a lot of people have noticed that whenever a show or film doesn't at least hit a 2 out of 3 on the "straight white male" list of protagonist attributes, there seem to be a lot of people commenting on it with unspecific statements like "the acting and story were terrible". Most of them never really elaborate, and get weirdly angry when you ask them to. They also usually really love to put the word "agenda" into their posts for some reason. Call that what you want.

Nobody was going to accuse davejo90 of racism, because that post actually explains the reasoning rather well, and in fact only states personal preference rather than pretending to be observation.

Will keep watching for now. Marvel has pumped out much worse lately, I think.

If that is the case than we have once again a show that managed to write it so that she comes across very unlikeable. Every bad decision she made so far wasn't necessary. If every decision she makes is bad, what's the point?

Her character ark is basically the same as Spiderman and they managed to make him one of the most loveable characters in the MCU...and that from the very first moment we saw him. He made bad decisions as well, as seen in every MCU Spider-Man movie, but there it was always a learning-curve as it should be for a superhero.

Here it doesn't feel like that at all. At the very least, in the next few episodes, she has to take responsibililty for her actions. If that doesn't happen the show is done for me.

Agreed - still fun to point out though

How dare you not like it!! Racist!

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