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Thanks for the link! smile I love how they aged everything in a way that it looked real.

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Yeah, the set designers did an outstanding job.

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Ella Purnell the okey-dokey gal also starred in Miss Perregrines Home for Peculiar Children a rather nice film

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Just finished watching the first season and wow, it is probably one of the best video game to TV show adaptations I've ever seen. It captured the campy parts of the video game pretty well, showcased the ethics issues of the vaults, and finally showed us some behind the scenes on what happened in the final days before the bombs dropped.

That said there were issues I had with the overall narrative, and I think if this is the narrative direction the Fallout universe is going to take..., well it's kind of a depressing overall story then.

Spoiler

In the show the NCR or New California Republic was shown multiple times. The big reveal that they're gone is a huge gut punch to anyone who's played the Fallout series, as Shady Sands was a major location, and the NCR was largely the rebuilding force in Fallout. I had to look it up, but Todd Howard basically explained it as the Wasteland is in a constant churn and humanity in Fallout will be constantly experiencing tragedy. And while that's definitely the theme at times, there was also a message of Hope and Recovery, especially with the ending of Fallout 3 and the purification of the water in all of Washington D.C.

So if this is going to be a darker world of just constant death, depression, and loss I feel like you lose the 'campy' feeling that Fallout had a lot of times.

The last shot in the series is of New Vegas btw, with House Tower intact but the rest of it looking pretty ruined. So it does look like we'll get some continuation of the New Vegas area in the next season. I'm interested in seeing what Fallout 5 looks like too, although that's supposed to be set in NYC according to some rumors.

Anyways, the Ghoul stole the show for sure. Maximus and Lucy were interesting enough to keep me engaged with their story line as well, and the whole ensemble of side characters were also well done and cast. The attention to detail on some of the sets, like the red rocket gas station were literally like they pulled it out of the game and set it up in real life, and wow what a job on the power armor!

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Didn't like the 60's? music playing all the time, extremley annoying. Didnt like how they trivialized extreme violence (like cutting that girls finger off).

Goggins was excellent as ususal.

Story was like, wtf?  (Poor Silo immitation)

Reminded me a bit of the film 'Damnation Alley' for some reason, but not in a good way.

That close to the mushroom cloud? You're toast dude!

I'll probably watch another season, cos Goggins is in it, and there's little else to watch lately!

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jimslim wrote:

Didn't like the 60's? music playing all the time, extremley annoying. Didnt like how they trivialized extreme violence (like cutting that girls finger off).

Goggins was excellent as ususal.

Story was like, wtf?  (Poor Silo immitation)

Reminded me a bit of the film 'Damnation Alley' for some reason, but not in a good way.

That close to the mushroom cloud? You're toast dude!

I'll probably watch another season, cos Goggins is in it, and there's little else to watch lately!


I think they needed to better explain this is a TV show based on a video game. Virtually all the points you don't like are a part of the video game. Especially the 50's music and aesthetic. A big part of the game is that the transistor was either never invented or invented much later (hard to tell sometimes), and much of the world is still operating on tube tech. It's not meant to be an entirely serious look at what would actually happen in a nuclear end of the world. The whole series is slightly.... campy is the best word I have for it. Campy, yet gets serious and shows serious ethical situations with the vaults and life in general.

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xxFelixDCatxx wrote:
jimslim wrote:

Didn't like the 60's? music playing all the time, extremley annoying.

I think they needed to better explain this is a TV show based on a video game. Virtually all the points you don't like are a part of the video game. Especially the 50's music and aesthetic. A big part of the game is that the transistor was either never invented or invented much later (hard to tell sometimes), and much of the world is still operating on tube tech. It's not meant to be an entirely serious look at what would actually happen in a nuclear end of the world. The whole series is slightly.... campy is the best word I have for it. Campy, yet gets serious and shows serious ethical situations with the vaults and life in general.

Never played the game, and I hope i'm not being pedantic, as I think I understand what you're getting at, but 'camp' in the UK is more like saying its a bit 'gay', if I can say that on here:-
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dicti … glish/camp

Perhaps the term you're looking for is 'Tongue-in-Cheek'. Humorous, satyrical etc.

I did end up skipping through a lot of it in the end, so perhaps I missed the nuances, and as I said, i'll give it another go, but it's probably just a bit too 'off' for me.

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watched the whole season... wasnt too impressed. It felt a bit all over the place, cant say I fully understood it. (i have never played the games)

Brothers! What we do in life...Echoes in Eternity!


http://next-episode.net/sig/sig.php?alias=default&kk=9a35ebe93d371275706bdebcafefaa47

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I was pleasantly surprised, I've never played the game but was aware of the basic story outline and while I felt the writing/story dropped off a bit at the end,  overall I really enjoyed it.

I'm glad there will be a second season.

The biggest conundrum I had was trying to decide if I thought the main girl hot or not lol. The buggy eyes kinda threw me but I finally decided she was still pretty cute.

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proteinnerd wrote:

I was pleasantly surprised, I've never played the game but was aware of the basic story outline and while I felt the writing/story dropped off a bit at the end,  overall I really enjoyed it.

I'm glad there will be a second season.

The biggest conundrum I had was trying to decide if I thought the main girl hot or not lol. The buggy eyes kinda threw me but I finally decided she was still pretty cute.

any one who uses the phrase "okey dokey"  must be hot

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jimslim wrote:

Story was like, wtf?  (Poor Silo immitation)

The story came with the first Fallout game about 14 years before the first Silo book was written, so yeah. Imitation for sure.

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jimslim wrote:
xxFelixDCatxx wrote:
jimslim wrote:

Didn't like the 60's? music playing all the time, extremley annoying.

I think they needed to better explain this is a TV show based on a video game. Virtually all the points you don't like are a part of the video game. Especially the 50's music and aesthetic. A big part of the game is that the transistor was either never invented or invented much later (hard to tell sometimes), and much of the world is still operating on tube tech. It's not meant to be an entirely serious look at what would actually happen in a nuclear end of the world. The whole series is slightly.... campy is the best word I have for it. Campy, yet gets serious and shows serious ethical situations with the vaults and life in general.

Never played the game, and I hope i'm not being pedantic, as I think I understand what you're getting at, but 'camp' in the UK is more like saying its a bit 'gay', if I can say that on here:-
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dicti … glish/camp

Perhaps the term you're looking for is 'Tongue-in-Cheek'. Humorous, satyrical etc.

I did end up skipping through a lot of it in the end, so perhaps I missed the nuances, and as I said, i'll give it another go, but it's probably just a bit too 'off' for me.


Ha another mistranslation from across the pond, I'm a cigarette smoker and you gents use a word for cigarette that is incredibly pejorative to gay people here.

But you get the basic meaning. Fallout is, at it's core satirical, but honestly the show didn't pull that portion of it off well. Which is what my long drawn out post was about really at it's core. It missed a lot of the silliness of the series.

It also reset the first 4 video games entirely, all of which were about various rebuilding of society outside the vaults... so that was an interesting narrative take.

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merc wrote:
proteinnerd wrote:

I was pleasantly surprised, I've never played the game but was aware of the basic story outline and while I felt the writing/story dropped off a bit at the end,  overall I really enjoyed it.

I'm glad there will be a second season.

The biggest conundrum I had was trying to decide if I thought the main girl hot or not lol. The buggy eyes kinda threw me but I finally decided she was still pretty cute.

any one who uses the phrase "okey dokey"  must be hot


Who else was disappointed at the cornfield scene in the mutant vault?

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ekgerke wrote:
jimslim wrote:

Story was like, wtf?  (Poor Silo immitation)

The story came with the first Fallout game about 14 years before the first Silo book was written, so yeah. Imitation for sure.

lol

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xxFelixDCatxx wrote:
jimslim wrote:
xxFelixDCatxx wrote:
jimslim wrote:

Didn't like the 60's? music playing all the time, extremley annoying.

I think they needed to better explain this is a TV show based on a video game. Virtually all the points you don't like are a part of the video game. Especially the 50's music and aesthetic. A big part of the game is that the transistor was either never invented or invented much later (hard to tell sometimes), and much of the world is still operating on tube tech. It's not meant to be an entirely serious look at what would actually happen in a nuclear end of the world. The whole series is slightly.... campy is the best word I have for it. Campy, yet gets serious and shows serious ethical situations with the vaults and life in general.

Never played the game, and I hope i'm not being pedantic, as I think I understand what you're getting at, but 'camp' in the UK is more like saying REDACTED -
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dicti … glish/camp

Perhaps the term you're looking for is 'Tongue-in-Cheek'. Humorous, satyrical etc.

I did end up skipping through a lot of it in the end, so perhaps I missed the nuances, and as I said, i'll give it another go, but it's probably just a bit too 'off' for me.


Ha another mistranslation from across the pond, I'm a cigarette smoker and you gents use a word for cigarette that is incredibly pejorative to gay people here.

But you get the basic meaning. Fallout is, at it's core satirical, but honestly the show didn't pull that portion of it off well. Which is what my long drawn out post was about really at it's core. It missed a lot of the silliness of the series.

It also reset the first 4 video games entirely, all of which were about various rebuilding of society outside the vaults... so that was an interesting narrative take.

No mistranslation that I can see

Camp - camp /kămp/
noun
Deliberate affectation or exaggeration of style, especially of popular or outdated style, for ironic or humorous effect.

Dolly Parton camp, Cher camp, Mae West camp, David Walliams camp etc
AFAIA non of them identify as gay

Doesn’t have to mean sexuality (I’m not using the vile phrase used by the other poster), historically some camp culture has been queer icons but not exclusively and less so today. I disagree that camp equates to gay here in the UK. Some of us are more sophisticated than that.

A cowboy? 50’s music soundtrack? - camp as hell.

Only watched 3/4 first episode though. I am with the other UK poster though in that it’s not doing it for me this one…

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How is this expensive well shot, discursive rambling, sexually perverse series so popular?

Cowboys, 1950's, Futurama Cities,  Silo Sets, Sedentary Overweight Humans from Wall-E, Rando Mad Max Characters and of course the token prized left Xelia Mendes-Jones - and no I will not refer to Xelia as a biological male, nope. Be that as it may, could this series please please pick a lane???

Idk man it's unreal seeing all the hype in here. I'm more of a fps gamer - I focus more on tactical kills and this show would have been over halfway into episode 1 if my video game characters were in with these video game characters lol.

Anywayyyy - to each their own... but this (again) high budget, well shot, great sound, amazing special effect series is.... absolute perverse garbage - but... that said... it's literally the best apple series garbage I have ever seen (but yes, it's still garbage).

TLDR - imagine if Woke AI gen 2 (We're on gen 5 now btw) did a movie and Apple released it...

Ugh I want my 1:14:57 back... it's garbage

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lol

You must be an Anti-Woke AI - no real human would spend so much time commenting a show they don't like. cool

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nextgr00vy wrote:

How is this expensive well shot, discursive rambling, sexually perverse series so popular?

Compared to other shows made in 2024, this show isn't really what I would call expensive (The Acolyte, Rings of Power did cost a lot more and are actually not that good)

Sexually perverse? Because of the "cousin stuff" or what exactly are you referring to?
I think this show is as harmless as it can be in consideration of sexual content.

nextgr00vy wrote:

Cowboys, 1950's, Futurama Cities,  Silo Sets, Sedentary Overweight Humans from Wall-E, Rando Mad Max Characters and of course the token prized left Xelia Mendes-Jones - and no I will not refer to Xelia as a biological male, nope. Be that as it may, could this series please please pick a lane???

Where would be the fun in that? smile

nextgr00vy wrote:

Idk man it's unreal seeing all the hype in here. I'm more of a fps gamer - I focus more on tactical kills and this show would have been over halfway into episode 1 if my video game characters were in with these video game characters lol.

That's why it's better to adapt RPG games into tv shows, no? Because RPG games usually focus a lot more on strorytelling than FPS games smile

nextgr00vy wrote:

Anywayyyy - to each their own...

You are absolutely right smile

nextgr00vy wrote:

it's literally the best apple series garbage I have ever seen (but yes, it's still garbage).

That's funny, cause it's an Amazon show, not Apple smile

Shows that deserved more runtime:
Abbys | Dead Like Me | Devs | Firefly | Gangsta. | Jack of all Trades | Kevin (probably) saves the World | Lodge 49 | Mrs. Davis | NYC 22 | Powerless | Roadkill | Special Unit 2 | Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi | Stumptown | Surface | The Brave | The Company You Keep | The Crazy Ones | The Finder | The Middleman | Truth Seekers | Two Weeks to Live | Whiskey Cavalier

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As a fallout "gamer" this show was exactly what i wanted, not often you get good shows these days, this is one of those rare occurrences. Casting and design was amazing