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Episode 6 - Where is he?

Not much happened in this Episode. A lot of conversations. Apart from two situations a rather boring episode.

Spoiler

Eregion is truly a mystery to me. It really feels like that this great elven city has no form of government, social structure or anything that remotely resembles a hierarchy of duty. Aparently there is Celebrimbor, Mirdania and that's it.
Why did those people gather in front of the forge? So that one guard and Mirdania can speak to him? Were the others there only for moral support or what? Does the city guard has no commander? - that whole thing felt weird and the only purpose was so they could put in the title of the episode.

By the way, how many people do they need to forge rings? I don't know anything about forging but ~10 feels like a lot.

And what happened to the great eyesight of the elves? Not seeing the orcs until they are literally on the other side of the river is kind of a fail... those guards should go see a ophthalmologist.

Galadriel had no purpose in this episode.

The story between Gandalf and Tom Bombadil is basically copy/paste from Yoda + Luke.

Anyone else find it weird how much direct influence the Valar apparently have in Númenor? First the eagles and now the kraken who is somehow a judge of the Valar?

The dwarves...meh, just meh

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Thanks, I love it. big_smile May the forge be with you! lol

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WilliamDrakeMcGregor wrote:

Episode 6 - Where is he?

Not much happened in this Episode. A lot of conversations. Apart from two situations a rather boring episode.

Spoiler

Eregion is truly a mystery to me. It really feels like that this great elven city has no form of government, social structure or anything that remotely resembles a hierarchy of duty. Aparently there is Celebrimbor, Mirdania and that's it.
Why did those people gather in front of the forge? So that one guard and Mirdania can speak to him? Were the others there only for moral support or what? Does the city guard has no commander? - that whole thing felt weird and the only purpose was so they could put in the title of the episode.

By the way, how many people do they need to forge rings? I don't know anything about forging but ~10 feels like a lot.

And what happened to the great eyesight of the elves? Not seeing the orcs until they are literally on the other side of the river is kind of a fail... those guards should go see a ophthalmologist.

Galadriel had no purpose in this episode.

The story between Gandalf and Tom Bombadil is basically copy/paste from Yoda + Luke.

Anyone else find it weird how much direct influence the Valar apparently have in Númenor? First the eagles and now the kraken who is somehow a judge of the Valar?

The dwarves...meh, just meh

Come on. It is not that bad. I finally understood where the books meet the show. That was an eye opener.

Spoiler

I finally realized that the greed the ring was causing, is the reason the dragon will wake soon and take over the mountain. Like in the books.

And the scenery is simply amazing. I love the little dwarves. Just give it a chance. Reduce your expectations and you might enjoy the show a tad more.

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inkblot wrote:
WilliamDrakeMcGregor wrote:

Episode 6 - Where is he?

Not much happened in this Episode. A lot of conversations. Apart from two situations a rather boring episode.

Spoiler

Eregion is truly a mystery to me. It really feels like that this great elven city has no form of government, social structure or anything that remotely resembles a hierarchy of duty. Aparently there is Celebrimbor, Mirdania and that's it.
Why did those people gather in front of the forge? So that one guard and Mirdania can speak to him? Were the others there only for moral support or what? Does the city guard has no commander? - that whole thing felt weird and the only purpose was so they could put in the title of the episode.

By the way, how many people do they need to forge rings? I don't know anything about forging but ~10 feels like a lot.

And what happened to the great eyesight of the elves? Not seeing the orcs until they are literally on the other side of the river is kind of a fail... those guards should go see a ophthalmologist.

Galadriel had no purpose in this episode.

The story between Gandalf and Tom Bombadil is basically copy/paste from Yoda + Luke.

Anyone else find it weird how much direct influence the Valar apparently have in Númenor? First the eagles and now the kraken who is somehow a judge of the Valar?

The dwarves...meh, just meh

Come on. It is not that bad. I finally understood where the books meet the show. That was an eye opener.

Spoiler

I finally realized that the greed the ring was causing, is the reason the dragon will wake soon and take over the mountain. Like in the books.

And the scenery is simply amazing. I love the little dwarves. Just give it a chance. Reduce your expectations and you might enjoy the show a tad more.

I did lower my expectations smile. To quote myself:

WilliamDrakeMcGregor wrote:
I gave up on this coming close to Tolkien-level storytelling with this show. It's ok-ish fantasy and it won't get any better. As I said before, for me, they just can't screw up Tom Bombadill, that's where I'm gonna draw the line.

This here is just me venting and pointing out things that annoy me. As for Tom Bombadill, still undecided.

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Btw. you mixed up the mountains. The dragon is in the Lonely Mountain, not in Khazad-dûm. Here it's the Balrog we've seen in Lord of the Rings.

With the dwarves I think it would've been better if the Ring had the ability to make the other dwarves greedy as well, not just the king.

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Episode 7 - Doomed to Die

You know, if you don't know the lore of The Lord of the Rings, but have watched the end of Episode 6 and read the title of Episode 7 - don't you already know how it will end?

Spoiler

The Orcs military power is very impressive. They have war machinery, trenches for defense, and they have even doctors who treat the wounded. Adar is one hell of a commander.
But doesn't it feel like the orcs are just getting more and more as the battle goes on?

The elves of Eregion (i stop writing "humans with pointy ears"...too long - but still accurate smile ) on the other hand... somehow that one elve guard from last episode is apparently the captain of the guards...did not get that impression at all from him.
Later in the episode Galadriel talks about old dwarven tunnels...weird that they weren't used to evacuate the city... people still keep running around wildly halfway through the battle - and the walls weren't even breached yet.

Mirdanias death was disappointing. From what we can tell she is the number two in Eregion, her death should've had a much bigger impact.

So let me get this right: Eregion is in the midst of a loosing battle. Lindon decides to go and help...then Elrond goes to Durin and asks for their aid...so far so good.
Then we see Elrond as the lead of the Lindon Host?? - What the hell? Did they wait around somewhere in safe distance for Elrond to return from his errand? Why didn't they attack right away?

And what is going on with Gil'Galad. He was seen at the head of the Host as well...where did he go? He shows back up only after ~30mins screen time. And why wasn't he the one negotiating with Adar?

Elrond is barely a freshling commander...probably took over for Galadriel? - where are the other three commanders with their thousands of years of experience in battle?

Wouldn't it have been better if Elrond came back heavily wounded from Khazad-dûm and Gil'Galad would command the elves? - This way we wouldn't have had to watch him kissing his mother-in-law smile.
And btw... from that angle, Adar could've probably seen himself that Elrond was putting something in Galadriels hand...

So at the end of the episode, there are like 20 elves left...I would really like to know how many soldiers were in Eregion and how many did Lindon bring.

Celebrimbor....the old mystery of the chicken and the egg, or in this case: Do I cut off my finger or the chains that bind me? - he is in a freaking forge and can't find a tool to undo the cuffs that were probably forged in the same room...

A magic illusion on a loop...like CCTV footage in a heist movie lol

The one thing I really liked about this episode is, that The Nine were forged not with Mithril but with Saurons blood(?) - that was a great idea imho.

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Again, well said! smile

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Yes, I also enjoyed the illusion loop. smile

What I didn't like so much was the river bed turning into a usable battlefield in what felt like minutes (after them stopping the water from flowing), including the Orcs being able to move heavy stuff across it. Oh well... cool

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lighton wrote:

Again, well said! smile

Spoiler

Yes, I also enjoyed the illusion loop. smile

What I didn't like so much was the river bed turning into a usable battlefield in what felt like minutes (after them stopping the water from flowing), including the Orcs being able to move heavy stuff across it. Oh well... cool

I may not know much about rivers.

Spoiler

But would a riverbed not be inches upon inches of soft mud? So anyone crossing it would be knee deep in muck?

All in all I enjoyed the last episode.

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lighton wrote:

Again, well said! smile

Spoiler

Yes, I also enjoyed the illusion loop. smile

What I didn't like so much was the river bed turning into a usable battlefield in what felt like minutes (after them stopping the water from flowing), including the Orcs being able to move heavy stuff across it. Oh well... cool

Absolutely true! And two more things:

Spoiler

How did they get all that war machinery through that forrest?

Why didn't Gil'Galad and Elrond use the rings? - this could've actually been the perfect moment to show them off.

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2x8

I was a bit disappointed by the season finale. How about you guys?

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Oh, awesome, the sun shines! (yawn)

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If there is a 3rd season, then I loved it. If not, then it sucked.

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big_smile

I read that there's a very good chance for more, we shall find out...

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lighton wrote:

big_smile

I read that there's a very good chance for more, we shall find out...


‘The Rings of Power’ on Verge of Season 3 Renewal by Amazon

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv … 236024428/

You mean this?

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inkblot wrote:
lighton wrote:

big_smile

I read that there's a very good chance for more, we shall find out...


‘The Rings of Power’ on Verge of Season 3 Renewal by Amazon

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv … 236024428/

You mean this?

No, but that confirms it, thanks. smile

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lighton wrote:
inkblot wrote:
lighton wrote:

big_smile

I read that there's a very good chance for more, we shall find out...


‘The Rings of Power’ on Verge of Season 3 Renewal by Amazon

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv … 236024428/

You mean this?

No, but that confirms it, thanks. smile

No problem. I am excited to see what they come up with. And of course we had to say goodbye to a few characters with hard 'R's smile

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Pretty sure I read somewhere that the plan was for 5 seasons..   could be wrong though.

If 5 seasons, there is still a lot to cover, like the forging of the ONE ring, major battles, Gandalf becoming more powerful, development of the kingdoms of men and the Hobbits, Numenor's destruction, and eventually the final battle where Sauron loses The Ring (as seen in Lord of the Rings)

Let's hope this is where it is headed  :-)

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Episode 8 -  Shadow and Flame

Well, at the very least this episode had one of the best scenes of the entire season in it.
Unfortunately it was followed by one of the worst plot-twists in the season...

Spoiler

Durin vs. Balrog - it looked awesome smile.

So, the Dark Wizard is one of the Istari....turned evil....like Sarumar...and he looks like Sarumar...but he isn't Sarumar?....and there are also five of them (same as during Bilbo & Frodos time)....
Is their (the writers) plan for the Istari to have been in Middle-Earth all along? Or did the Valar send them twice for the same purpose?...but then it definitely isn't Sarumar, after all the Valar ain't stupid.

And how and when did he and the other three arrive in Middle-Earth, certainly not the same way Gandalf did?, and he is most definitely a whole lot longer there than Gandalf is.

Númenor...well with Elendil on his way to Middle-Earth, at least the important part of Númenor's history is back on track, hopefully no longer that BS political stuff I don't care at all about.

Am I a bad person for being glad that Celebrimbor is dead? - his character was probably the worst written in the entire show (so far).
Closely followed by Galadriel of course. Did she do anything to further the overall plot in this season?

The Balrog just decided to go back to sleep after it fought against Durin?...very considerate of it I guess.

Gandalfs great realization "friends over power"...wow, really mind-blowing stuff...

Grand-Elf...OK I can see how, over time, this might work for the hobbits...with tales told a name like Gandalf can develop....but for him to say the name "Gandalf" felt just wrong...after all he is known by many names, not just Gandalf.

That last scene of the elves...If I had to summarize what is wrong with the elves in this show I would say they are missing elegance...something you could clearly feel in the first trilogy.

Overall the big picture of the story still works, nothing they have done so far would make it impossible to make the next season a faithful adaption (unlike this here) of the original material.

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WilliamDrakeMcGregor wrote:

Episode 8 -  Shadow and Flame

Well, at the very least this episode had one of the best scenes of the entire season in it.

Spoiler

Durin vs. Balrog - it looked awesome smile.

Yes! That scene budget probably would have financed the entire CGI for many different, multi-season shows. big_smile