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Topic: Deadpool & Wolverine [Action Comedy]

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The roast of the MCU starring Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman.

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7.5/10 - Fun Fact:  It was supposed to be called 'Deadpool & Friend'.  Wish they kept that, it's so much better.  Apparently the fans hated it.  Stupid.  Would love a re-edit called Deadpool & Friend, like the Christmas special.

My impression, well, it had some crazy laughs throughout, most of which would only land with a high degree of familiarity with not just the entire MCU and comic, but with many pop culture references that I know for a fact will not land with people I know.  Overall it was more of a roast of the flailing Post-Endgame MCU and bromance between Ryan and Hugh, than a tight Deadpool movie.  Didn't have that gritty vibe of Deadpool 1 and 2, with too many unenjoyable premises', characters, and plotholes, that just didn't land for me.

For example:

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The premise that Vanessa didn't want to be with Wade because he gave up?  Talk about a serious mark against her character.  He goes back in time to save her life, and the way she repays him is by asking him to 'show up' and 'you gotta do something'?  And she leaves him?  Wow.  roll  That whole reason for him joining the MCU to make Vanessa proud of him was so thin and weak, I hated it, as it was so out of character for both of them.  He could've taken small crime contracts and gone back to doing what he always does, and I would've loved it even more than this.

Cassandra Nova was terrible; didn't like that character/actor.  Surrounded by veteran characters from the MCU, they add a weak brand new X-Men villain, that to me, felt forced and just didn't land, as she was just too powerful to make those kind of mistakes.

Dogpool was stupid and added nothing to the show to me.  Not one laugh, at least from me.  Wasted screen time.

Nicepool was more annoying than enjoyable.  If they made T.J. Miller into Nicepool, that would've been awesome!

Plot holes: 
1. An 'Anchor Being' in every universe? roll Please.  So dumb, as if it would be Wolverine, he did nothing to our history, that made no sense. 
2. How the hell did Deadpool and Wolverine get back into the TVA after the blood bath scene against the army of Deadpool when they didn't have a TVA tablet?  One moment they are in a fight with the army of Deadpool, the next scene, in the TVA.  No transition.  No way of getting in. So dumb.  Why did the army of deadpool show up in the first place?
3. How did Peter get into the TVA?  Nonsense.

Highlights:
Literally breaking the fourth wall, 'Bye Bye Bye' by N'Sync, 'I'm with you(Hugh)' by Avril Lavigne, and Gambit played by Channing Tatum; perfection.

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Thanks, looking forward to it! smile

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Lots of cameos, I hear and a little dig from Elektra (Jennifer Garner) about a certain ex-husband's character being dead.

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I really enjoyed it. To be honest though Jackman stole the show and by the end, Deadpool and his tired old jokes on repeat became annoying. Some were good but a more serious Wolverine movie exploring the same story would have been better.

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That was the most laid back Wolverine I have ever seen. Our timeline wolverine would have turned Deadpool into beef cubes.

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paisley1 wrote:

Plot holes: 
1. An 'Anchor Being' in every universe? roll Please.  So dumb, as if it would be Wolverine, he did nothing to our history, that made no sense.

Wolverine was the anchor because of his sacrifice. They said it even sent ripples through all timelines

paisley1 wrote:

2. How the hell did Deadpool and Wolverine get back into the TVA after the blood bath scene against the army of Deadpool when they didn't have a TVA tablet?  One moment they are in a fight with the army of Deadpool, the next scene, in the TVA.  No transition.  No way of getting in. So dumb.  Why did the army of deadpool show up in the first place?

They didn’t. It was the TVA base on Earth they mentioned in the film. The Deadpools were there because Cassandra Nova summoned them. They said so when they arrived

paisley1 wrote:

3. How did Peter get into the TVA?  Nonsense.

Same answer as above

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@Toidol

toidol wrote:
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paisley1 wrote:

Plot holes: 
1. An 'Anchor Being' in every universe? roll Please.  So dumb, as if it would be Wolverine, he did nothing to our history, that made no sense.

Wolverine was the anchor because of his sacrifice. They said it even sent ripples through all timelines

Yes I realize that, and it's dumb, Wolverines one tiny sacrifice is meaningless and insignificant to anchor all of Earth's history, is my point.  They needed to make it funnier as it's a dumb premise that was said seriously.

paisley1 wrote:

2. How the hell did Deadpool and Wolverine get back into the TVA after the blood bath scene against the army of Deadpool when they didn't have a TVA tablet?  One moment they are in a fight with the army of Deadpool, the next scene, in the TVA.  No transition.  No way of getting in. So dumb.  Why did the army of deadpool show up in the first place?

They didn’t. It was the TVA base on Earth they mentioned in the film.

Well, they discussed their plan beforehand, but didn't show how it played out, because there's no transition scene of Deadpool and Wolverine leaving Earth and entering the TVA, after the fight with the Army of Deadpool.

The Deadpools were there because Cassandra Nova summoned them. They said so when they arrived

Cassandra says "I've called some friends to make sure we're not disturbed.", but why???, she could just grab Tom Wambsgans and teleport away, it's so unncessary to call in the Army of Deadpool so Cassandra could get some alone time with Tom. lolz.  If the plots a joke, the exposition line should land like a joke, no?  Like, if Cassandra said, "This will make for a great fight scene." Then look at the camera, then enter the Army of Deadpool, that would've tracked with the humor of the movie.  Then the audience would know the plots a joke, but Cassandra sounded as though she was trying to be clever, which landed like a plot hole/idiot villain.

paisley1 wrote:

3. How did Peter get into the TVA?  Nonsense.

Same answer as above

Not true.  It was never clearly explained how Peter got into the TVA.

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@paisley1

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It’s pretty reasonable for Wolverine to be the anchor. Think about it, that timeline branch was part of the main timeline, until it branched off, maybe when Wolfie died, and that’s how he was the most important being in that timeline branch. He wasn’t that important when timeline hadn’t branched off, but that whole branch was basically “his” branch and once he died, it had no purpose anymore.

Again, the end with the machine thingy didn’t happen in the TVA, it happened in the basement of a laundromat or something, on Earth. So DP and Wolfie didn’t go to TVA in the end. The basement was on the same street as the DPs fight. We saw the baddie come up the stairs earlier.

And that’s how Peter also got there, he walked down some stairs.

For why we got the DPs, well, it’s a Deadpool movie in the multiverse setup, that’s pretty much why. The fight exists because the movie wanted to have it. Yes, you are right, Cassie could’ve just killed everyone by herself in the beginning without the heroes ever getting involved, but then we wouldn’t have a movie. Why she chose DPs to summon, probs no other reason than what I wrote before, because it was written thus. It surely didn’t make much sense from the villains point of view, but it makes a lot of sense from film making point of view, it was entertainment. But a “plot hole”, wouldn’t say so.

I wasn’t the biggest fan of this movie either, by far the weakest of the DP movies, mid-MCU at best. I’d probably give it the same 7.5/10 as paisley1

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toidol wrote:

@paisley1

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It’s pretty reasonable for Wolverine to be the anchor. Think about it, that timeline branch was part of the main timeline, until it branched off, maybe when Wolfie died, and that’s how he was the most important being in that timeline branch. He wasn’t that important when timeline hadn’t branched off, but that whole branch was basically “his” branch and once he died, it had no purpose anymore.

The premise of Anchor Beings is ridiculous. Also, if this is the Avengers Universe, as Deadpool did talk to Happy at Stark Industries, wouldn't Iron Man be the Anchor being?  Sacrificed himself defeated Thanos, no?  Why would the Anchor Being for this entire Universe be from Earth?  It's laughable.

Again, the end with the machine thingy didn’t happen in the TVA, it happened in the basement of a laundromat or something, on Earth. So DP and Wolfie didn’t go to TVA in the end. The basement was on the same street as the DPs fight. We saw the baddie come up the stairs earlier.

And that’s how Peter also got there, he walked down some stairs.

Right right right.  TVA remote site down the subway stairs (not laundromat, but easy to forget), got it, great way to hold the story together, so contrived I lost track of where we were.

For why we got the DPs, well, it’s a Deadpool movie in the multiverse setup, that’s pretty much why. The fight exists because the movie wanted to have it. Yes, you are right, Cassie could’ve just killed everyone by herself in the beginning without the heroes ever getting involved, but then we wouldn’t have a movie. Why she chose DPs to summon, probs no other reason than what I wrote before, because it was written thus. It surely didn’t make much sense from the villains point of view, but it makes a lot of sense from film making point of view, it was entertainment. But a “plot hole”, wouldn’t say so.

Cassandra was buying time with the Army of Deadpool while she went down the subway stairs to infiltrate that machine, sure, it works, in a contrived paper thin kinda way that makes me instantly question it.

I wasn’t the biggest fan of this movie either, by far the weakest of the DP movies, mid-MCU at best. I’d probably give it the same 7.5/10 as paisley1

Ya, pretty weak.  Thanks for the reminders.

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LOL 7.5 for a current day marvel movie is high praise!!

I don't think anything* since Endgame has been a 7.5 or above. (except this)

*doesnt include Spidey, thats a Sony movie technically

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proteinnerd wrote:

LOL 7.5 for a current day marvel movie is high praise!!

I don't think anything* since Endgame has been a 7.5 or above. (except this)

*doesnt include Spidey, thats a Sony movie technically


Have you checked the money this thing has pulled in so far? I think they will surpass 1 Billion before the end of the summer.

This clearly shows that people either:

A. Love Ryan Reynolds.
B. Love R rated Action movies.

Either way they struck gold with this puppy.

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inkblot wrote:
proteinnerd wrote:

LOL 7.5 for a current day marvel movie is high praise!!

I don't think anything* since Endgame has been a 7.5 or above. (except this)

*doesnt include Spidey, thats a Sony movie technically


Have you checked the money this thing has pulled in so far? I think they will surpass 1 Billion before the end of the summer.

This clearly shows that people either:

A. Love Ryan Reynolds.
B. Love R rated Action movies.


Either way they struck gold with this puppy.

or perhaps people are starved for decent action movies not pushing "the message" and when one comes out, they rush to the cinema.

Superhero fatigue doesn't exist, crappy woke superhero fatigue does.

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Excellent flick!

I was most pleasantly surprised to find out that Channing Tatum was not full-of-s#!^e when he kept bragging that he could do the Gambit accent for all these years.  Seriously, I didn't think he had it in him... how wrong I was!

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