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Rocky_Rock_Rockbottom wrote:

Gave this a burl on the strength of comments here. 1st 3 ep's were some sumptuous shit but ep 4 the flashback one where the Rhodesian girl has a giant 60-minute cry on her stupid Waterworld planet was so tedious I may have given up on the while thing now


Gale isn't even in ep 4. I think you're actually talking about s01ep5 which is indeed the episode which builds her back story. It is a slower episode, but all I can say is that the building of backstory is necessary to 3 dimensional characters. I'm sorry it lacked the 'action' that the ADHD populace seems to need on a 24/7 basis in their media.

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Everyone here does seem to love Foundation, but my concentration just wanders off while I watch it.  Too much going on, too much nonsense, I just drift away...

2020.  Meh.

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graybags wrote:

Everyone here does seem to love Foundation, but my concentration just wanders off while I watch it.  Too much going on, too much nonsense, I just drift away...

Season 1 was interesting, Season 2 is meh.

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xxFelixDCatxx wrote:

I'm sorry it lacked the 'action' that the ADHD populace seems to need on a 24/7 basis in their media.

https://media.tenor.com/51HtRaJ0hegAAAAC/awkward-cringe.gif

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Gale isn't even in ep 4. I think you're actually talking about s01ep5 which is indeed the episode which builds her back story. It is a slower episode, but all I can say is that the building of backstory is necessary to 3 dimensional characters. I'm sorry it lacked the 'action' that the ADHD populace seems to need on a 24/7 basis in their media.

I think most people dont mind drama and solid back stories etc, but I've never been so bored with a character as Gaal or Gale or whatever. I blame it mostly on bad casting, she has no charisma, I feel nothing for her "hardships" and she's like a plank of wood with tears. Just endless whining.

I guess thats my main problem with the show, it's hard to get 100% invested when you dont like most of the characters. And it's such a shame, since they present an awesome universe with cool tech and ideas.

Still gonna watch if it gets renewed, need my sci fi fix.

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xxFelixDCatxx wrote:
lighton wrote:
some_one wrote:
Spoiler

One thing I am not quite clear about... did the Terminus people die and were copied into the vault or were they physically in there? If it's the former, then I guess they really did end up building an encyclopedia: themselves.

Interesting question...

Spoiler

I just assumed they were somehow rescued physically, even if it wasn't logical because the planet-destroying ship was going down fast with everybody still just standing around and looking up.


Spoiler

I'm guessing there's some kind of brain scan thing going on here. The vault had a disruptive field that could cause someone to pass out as far away as the colony was. Could have been scanning their brains the whole time. That would be interesting because then the vault could also contain all the dead members of Foundation too. Or some kind of star trek beam me use Scotty tech.

Spoiler

I kinda assumed the null field expanded and somehow gathered up all the people reasonable close to it. But yeah could be it just downloaded them.

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z1rra wrote:
xxFelixDCatxx wrote:
lighton wrote:
some_one wrote:
Spoiler

One thing I am not quite clear about... did the Terminus people die and were copied into the vault or were they physically in there? If it's the former, then I guess they really did end up building an encyclopedia: themselves.

Interesting question...

Spoiler

I just assumed they were somehow rescued physically, even if it wasn't logical because the planet-destroying ship was going down fast with everybody still just standing around and looking up.


Spoiler

I'm guessing there's some kind of brain scan thing going on here. The vault had a disruptive field that could cause someone to pass out as far away as the colony was. Could have been scanning their brains the whole time. That would be interesting because then the vault could also contain all the dead members of Foundation too. Or some kind of star trek beam me use Scotty tech.

Spoiler

I kinda assumed the null field expanded and somehow gathered up all the people reasonable close to it. But yeah could be it just downloaded them.

there should be a law against posts like this all spoilers... wink

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And I was starting to wonder how deep can we go with this big_smile

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Moze wrote:

Gale isn't even in ep 4. I think you're actually talking about s01ep5 which is indeed the episode which builds her back story. It is a slower episode, but all I can say is that the building of backstory is necessary to 3 dimensional characters. I'm sorry it lacked the 'action' that the ADHD populace seems to need on a 24/7 basis in their media.

I think most people dont mind drama and solid back stories etc, but I've never been so bored with a character as Gaal or Gale or whatever. I blame it mostly on bad casting, she has no charisma, I feel nothing for her "hardships" and she's like a plank of wood with tears. Just endless whining.

I guess thats my main problem with the show, it's hard to get 100% invested when you dont like most of the characters. And it's such a shame, since they present an awesome universe with cool tech and ideas.

Still gonna watch if it gets renewed, need my sci fi fix.


Yeah, she's kinda like James Holden of The Expanse. Miller, Amos, and even Naiome were better actors. Holden was... poorly cast imo.

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Cleanup on isle 7, cleanup on isle 7.

Yeah, well, actually, I'm happy they cleaned up the cast a bit because it felt to me like the story has been going too wide instead of progressing.

I would like to see another season and with it bring the show to an end.

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Easycore wrote:

Cleanup on isle 7, cleanup on isle 7.

Yeah, well, actually, I'm happy they cleaned up the cast a bit because it felt to me like the story has been going too wide instead of progressing.

I would like to see another season and with it bring the show to an end.

smile

With only one more season, it might feel a bit rushed. But with two more reasons, it might work out nicely.

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xxFelixDCatxx wrote:

Yeah, she's kinda like James Holden of The Expanse. Miller, Amos, and even Naiome were better actors. Holden was... poorly cast imo.

100%! Holden and Naomi had the worst chemestry i've ever seen. But luckily the supporting cast was great, I would even add the "rapist" to your list.
The Expanse also have something else that draws you inn, I cant really put my finger on it, but it may have something to do with the awesome realism, like space it self was it's own character and added suspense and a real sense of danger.
The Foundation rely too much on a boring cast to drive the show.

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Moze wrote:
xxFelixDCatxx wrote:

Yeah, she's kinda like James Holden of The Expanse. Miller, Amos, and even Naiome were better actors. Holden was... poorly cast imo.

100%! Holden and Naomi had the worst chemestry i've ever seen. But luckily the supporting cast was great, I would even add the "rapist" to your list.
The Expanse also have something else that draws you inn, I cant really put my finger on it, but it may have something to do with the awesome realism, like space it self was it's own character and added suspense and a real sense of danger.
The Foundation rely too much on a boring cast to drive the show.


Day/Dusk are basically carrying the show, but I really like Harry as well, he was good in the Expanse too.

I really hope this is a career maker for Day, he's a phenomenal actor. The visuals have been pretty excellent in Foundation so far, and honestly the story being told across thousands of years is really really cool as a concept, so I'm hooked despite the... wooden acting of a few characters.

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i am at s01e05 or 06 and what started out good seems to have turned to mindless junk. 
Gale is about as interesting as a bag of poop on fire. i honestly had to pause it 12 times while she freaked out after waking up from the escape pod.

The un touchable monolith? Seriously we should accept an explainable vessel at a scientific outpost so far in the future they have faster than light ships?  and the religious supernatural aspects are believable at about the level of a grade school education
i read the book long ago and thought it would be a fantastic basis for so much better a story then what we have here.

will this get better or shoud i abandon it now.??????
( previous posts seem to suggest this is just a mess of a show and there are some die hard fans of this crap)

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It stays roughly as bad/ awesome, better abandon it now! cool

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I dunno. I enjoyed season 2 a lot more and it was also a lot more coherent.

Cleons still steal the show though.

piraterepublic wrote:

The un touchable monolith? Seriously we should accept an explainable vessel at a scientific outpost so far in the future they have faster than light ships?  and the religious supernatural aspects are believable at about the level of a grade school education

Touching on this, the show is definitely a science fantasy akin to for example Star Wars, not rooted in reality (such as Expanse) and that was already a case for the books. While it's true you have to take stuff on faith here, I feel like it's an unfair criticism here.

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z1rra wrote:

Cleons still steal the show though.

At this point in the show, a pure Cleon purging the galaxy would be preferable to any other storyline they come up with.

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piraterepublic wrote:

The un touchable monolith? Seriously we should accept an explainable vessel at a scientific outpost so far in the future they have faster than light ships?

Well, if it annoys you that much, minor partial spoiler on that thing:

Spoiler

In-universe, it's actually just a regular machine that, technically, anyone with the necessary resources can build. Basically none of the technology is actually new, but some of it has simply been illegal for such a long time that people wouldn't be too familiar with it. Using technology to do magic tricks is something they seem to do a lot on this show.

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi]

I hate when they depart from the original literature.

Yes! it is a great show!

Better than the books?

No!

ISAAC ASIMOV was a pioneer of Sci-Fi. Back in the day, you had to be able to really write.

Modern Writers stand upon their shoulders- benefiting from their... uh, foundation. (Sorry.)

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big_smile

Btw, Dune 2 (loved it!) reminded me of Foundation at times.

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lighton wrote:

big_smile

Btw, Dune 2 (loved it!) reminded me of Foundation at times.


Considering Foundation is one of the sources of inspiration for the original Dune series that's unsurprising!

Corusant from Star Wars was also based on Trantor.

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Ah, cool, thanks for sharing!