26 Reply by paisley1 (edited by paisley1 2023-05-24 00:47:07)

  • paisley1
  • paisley1
  • Member
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2008-10-16
  • Posts: 2,770

Re: Outer Range [Drama, Mystery, Western]

lighton wrote:
lighton wrote:

Wow, wow, WOW! yikes yikes yikes I expected this to be a great show, but the 1x2 ending was awesome! smile

And now I want to get to know the taste of Clamato! big_smile

And now I finally tasted it. smile Loved it! Couldn't even taste their special ingredient, but it tasted wonderful. Won't buy more anytime soon though because of the added High Fructose Corn Syrup and synthetic food colorant Allura Red AC.

Thanks to whoever wrote Clamato into the script, looking forward to the next season even more now. (Will there be more Clamato?) big_smile

Still boggles the mind that you've never tried Clamato, and ya, super bad for you so if you make a caesar, drink responsibly. 

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/df/63/23/df6323dd7047844622d74658a3f3bf71.jpg

27 Reply by mrverene

  • mrverene
  • mrverene
  • Member
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2016-06-09
  • Posts: 745

Re: Outer Range [Drama, Mystery, Western]

I can't imagine adding even more salt to something with that much Clamato and Worcestershire, much less whatever is in the hot sauce and 'rimmer'.

28 Reply by paisley1 (edited by paisley1 2024-05-20 17:25:52)

  • paisley1
  • paisley1
  • Member
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2008-10-16
  • Posts: 2,770

Re: Outer Range [Drama, Mystery, Western]

Season 2 didn't have any Clamato, but certainly had a lot of twists and turns that didn't really add up, and it also didn't seem like the season 1 finale had anything to do with season 2, so maybe they'll get back to the season 1 ending in season 3, 4, or 5?

▼Spoiler

Not sure how Perry can cause the event that kills himself instead of the Tillerson brother, and not die?  That's clearly not time travel, more like, temporal displacement or jumping creates alternate realities.  Season 2 got really messy, especially with Joy and Royal's connection.  Royal would know things, like, a lot of things about people, and be keeping it all to himself, because he's seen them all in his past.

https://media.press.amazonstudios.com/userfiles/images/Outer_Range/Season_2/Key_Art/RNGE_S2_PRShowBanner_BlackMineral_1920x1080_PRE_PV_FINAL_en-US_KAPS_3018916.jpg

29 Reply by lighton

  • lighton
  • lighton
  • Administrator
  • Offline
  • From: Fillory (first floor)
  • Registered: 2018-03-21
  • Posts: 4,470

Re: Outer Range [Drama, Mystery, Western]

@mrverene: big_smile

@paisley1: Thanks for sharing. The Clamato disappointment is real!

I've only watched 2x1 so far, enjoyed it!

Some shows you might <3 too: https://next-episode.net/messiah https://next-episode.net/devs https://next-episode.net/ted-lasso https://next-episode.net/the-outsider
https://next-episode.net/chernobyl https://next-episode.net/alex-rider
https://next-episode.net/the-expanse https://next-episode.net/lovecraft-country
https://next-episode.net/into-the-night https://next-episode.net/utopia

30 Reply by colinsp

  • colinsp
  • colinsp
  • Member
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2006-07-01
  • Posts: 347

Re: Outer Range [Drama, Mystery, Western]

I only made it half way through s2e01 and then gave up, not nearly as good as s1.

31 Reply by some_one

  • some_one
  • Member
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2019-07-07
  • Posts: 274

Re: Outer Range [Drama, Mystery, Western]

paisley1 wrote:
▼Spoiler

Not sure how Perry can cause the event that kills himself instead of the Tillerson brother, and not die?  That's clearly not time travel, more like, temporal displacement or jumping creates alternate realities.  Season 2 got really messy, especially with Joy and Royal's connection.  Royal would know things, like, a lot of things about people, and be keeping it all to himself, because he's seen them all in his past.


▼Spoiler

They might be doing a "not technically time travel, just fucking around with time" thing? Perry is clearly doing a parallel timeline thing (his father clearly doesn't remember meeting his time travelling son decades earlier either), Autumn/Amy is having circular causality and Joy seems to have changed the past? When she talked to Royal and he suddenly remembered her in the past, it didn't come off as a "suppressed memory" kind of situation, more like history ironing out a kink. So basically, all three main types of time travel are present here.

Maybe that's intentional. Or maybe it's just writers being lazy about time travel again. It seems at least partially intentional though.

32 Reply by lighton

  • lighton
  • lighton
  • Administrator
  • Offline
  • From: Fillory (first floor)
  • Registered: 2018-03-21
  • Posts: 4,470

Re: Outer Range [Drama, Mystery, Western]

Enjoyed the second season, but it wasn't as awesome as the first one. But at least I LOVED the last 20 minutes or so of the final season 2 episode. smile <3

Thank you, Brad Pitt, and everybody else involved! smile

@paisley1: Thanks, hadn't seen that image before!

@some_one: Yes, feels intentional. Also with Wayne... whatever is going on there! big_smile

Some shows you might <3 too: https://next-episode.net/messiah https://next-episode.net/devs https://next-episode.net/ted-lasso https://next-episode.net/the-outsider
https://next-episode.net/chernobyl https://next-episode.net/alex-rider
https://next-episode.net/the-expanse https://next-episode.net/lovecraft-country
https://next-episode.net/into-the-night https://next-episode.net/utopia

33 Reply by paisley1 (edited by paisley1 2024-05-26 19:22:17)

  • paisley1
  • paisley1
  • Member
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2008-10-16
  • Posts: 2,770

Re: Outer Range [Drama, Mystery, Western]

some_one wrote:
paisley1 wrote:
▼Spoiler

Not sure how Perry can cause the event that kills himself instead of the Tillerson brother, and not die?  That's clearly not time travel, more like, temporal displacement or jumping creates alternate realities.  Season 2 got really messy, especially with Joy and Royal's connection.  Royal would know things, like, a lot of things about people, and be keeping it all to himself, because he's seen them all in his past.


▼Spoiler

They might be doing a "not technically time travel, just fucking around with time" thing? Perry is clearly doing a parallel timeline thing (his father clearly doesn't remember meeting his time travelling son decades earlier either), Autumn/Amy is having circular causality and Joy seems to have changed the past? When she talked to Royal and he suddenly remembered her in the past, it didn't come off as a "suppressed memory" kind of situation, more like history ironing out a kink. So basically, all three main types of time travel are present here.

Maybe that's intentional. Or maybe it's just writers being lazy about time travel again. It seems at least partially intentional though.

▼Spoiler

Well, they certainly were playing on the psychological side as well in season 2, especially Wayne and Luke Tillerson and also Amy/Autumn eating the dirt/ash then hearing/seeing precognitive hallucinations, which conflates the time travel aspect of the hole and smacks of lazy writing, unless of course they iron out the details at the end.

What are the 3 types of time travel? Please confirm....

1. Go back in time and change things in the past and they are changed in the future. (Classic time Travel, remembering both time lines, ie. Back to the Future)
2. Go back in time and change things in the past and they are not changed in the future. (Not time travel, alternate timeline/universe only, ie. Avengers End Game.)
3. Go back in time to create the events that caused you to go back in time. (A pocket in time, time loop, circular causality, ie. Predestination.)?

@Lighton, any thoughts on season 2?

34 Reply by some_one

  • some_one
  • Member
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2019-07-07
  • Posts: 274

Re: Outer Range [Drama, Mystery, Western]

paisley1 wrote:

What are the 3 types of time travel? Please confirm....

1. Go back in time and change things in the past and they are changed in the future. (Classic time Travel, remembering both time lines, ie. Back to the Future)
2. Go back in time and change things in the past and they are not changed in the future. (Not time travel, alternate timeline/universe only, ie. Avengers End Game.)
3. Go back in time to create the events that caused you to go back in time. (A pocket in time, time loop, circular causality, ie. Predestination.)?

Confirmed. At least, that's the main ones. There might be be the occasinal creative idea and a lot of writers don't bother picking just one and sticking to it (making a mess instead; looking at you, BttF), but generally yeah. Agree?

35 Reply by paisley1 (edited by paisley1 2024-05-29 01:12:02)

  • paisley1
  • paisley1
  • Member
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2008-10-16
  • Posts: 2,770

Re: Outer Range [Drama, Mystery, Western]

some_one wrote:

Confirmed. At least, that's the main ones. There might be be the occasinal creative idea and a lot of writers don't bother picking just one and sticking to it (making a mess instead; looking at you, BttF), but generally yeah. Agree?

Thanks, I was just checking to make sure, because season 2 of Outer Range seems like it's all of those, as well as psychological precognition on top of that.  Back to the Future had it's oops's but isn't nearly as bad as Avengers End Game for just being plain wrong and taking me out of the fiction.  I don't mind it when the use of time travel is very wrong but still works on an emotive level, like The Lake House and The Tomorrow War, but season 2 works in all directions and makes the head spin.