Worst TV show turned movie(s)? (Page 2 of 2)

yeah, smack him.... but be merciful and sympathetic while doing so...

Well, i deserve that, so it's ok. no hard feelings and stuff.

How you goin say that about Scooby Doo???  That show is awesome!!!  One of my fav old cartoons...cept when they introduced Scrappy...it wasnt that good from there on out.

i totally agree with you as to the 'crisp' Star Trek-y nature of Serenity, and do feel it detracted from one of the things that made Firefly so godsdamn special, and as much as FOX were to blame for the "failure" of Firefly, you could hardly blame 'the suits' for pushing the film in this direction, and anybody who has done the featurettes/commentaries on the Firefly dvd can clearly see this was not something that came from a creative perspective... the film need to garner a new audience that hadn't seen the tv series, so to that extent i see that as a commercial means to an end, something that, these days really just needs to be accepted and ignored... so, yeah, that sucked, but it was easy to look past...

Serenity's only real flaw lies in the fact that it was too damn compressed... the plot was a monster and didn't really leave room for the character moments the way Firefly did, thus meaning that character motivations and such needed an outside force to motivate them. that is a problem, but again, given the medium and target audience, it was a necessary evil... so yeah, it sucked that they had to kill off Book & Wash the way they did... BUT... without those events... i mean, Wash's death is a perfect example... it's sole purpose was to bring Zoe out into the open and show just how badass she is... but fuck, anybody who knows the tv series already knew that... but given the monster plot etc, she doesn't really get to show that in the movie, thus needing that outside impetuous to drive her forward and give us a big-bang balls out action thing that the kids so do love these days...

where i have to disagree is your outlook on Book's death... if anything it was the one thing that pushed Mal's character right out into the open. Book was Mal's conscience, one of the few people he actually had a deep and true respect for... it was Book's cold and calculated execution that pushed him forwards to do the right thing for the greater good regardless of the personal sacrifice, something he [it seems] always had trouble doing...

it was, to me, Wash's death that was totally unnecessary...

Yeah, but the chances for a sequel were pretty slim to begin with.  This was likely Joss's one shot at a Firefly movie, so the way I see it he didn't have any choice but to kill off a couple of the main characters.  Otherwise it just feels like a cheat.  They had to be in real danger, where good people get killed otherwise it loses all its credibility.

And there were plenty of character moments!!!  o.O  Jayne and his grenades, Kaylee and her battery operated gadgets, Mal and Inara with the uncomfortable talking by vid, Mal and Book talking about faith, River crying over Simon when he got hurt, Zoe's reaction to Wash...  I could seriously go on and on and on.  There was plenty in there that was recognisable as Firefly.

I saw it three times when it was at the cinema (the first time at its world premier at the Edinburgh Film Festival) and I just love every minute of it.

Well, writing it according to the expectation that there wouldn't be a sequel, to me, caused Joss to cheat things to fit his expectations...thus compromising the credibility of the whole project...a little bit, anyway.

You do make good points...but they're only passable if you gloss over the fact that forcing an ending to it all like that was a huge injustice to the series...

...it's like, if you adopted a pet dog...and you found out that it just wasn't within your budget to keep him...and then, instead of letting him go live with someone else and never seeing him again, you shoot him.

There is no justice in ending something prematurely that was not ready for its end to come. The dog does not have to be put in real danger in order for you to keep your credibility...

-Rob

good call, and an option that would have been truly worthy of my vote...

You know, this may be the first time that the option I chose on a long poll has actually won!  And well is should, because Bewitched sucked ass!!!!!