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Topic: The Sandman [Drama, Mystery, Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Horror]

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Sandman is an adaptation of the acclaimed DC's Vertigo comic book by Neil Gaiman. The story centers on Dream, one of the seven Endless, the rulers of the world of dreams.

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So far, there's

The Sandman | First Look | Netflix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBXqrBl6pEo

from last year and

The Sandman | Date Announcement [Trailer] | Netflix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWJTB6FPVaA

from this week. Looking good! smile

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I'm a big fan of the graphic novels and I'm not sure how I feel about this...

2020.  Meh.

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graybags wrote:

I'm a big fan of the graphic novels and I'm not sure how I feel about this...

Did they change too much for your taste? (I'm not familiar with the graphic novels.)

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The Sandman | Official Trailer | Netflix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJXamnPUm0I

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Looks interesting and it starts in 4 days.

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I just watched the first episode, this is going to be a fun ride smile

Edit: 3 episodes down and I'm hooked until the end. I've never read the comics (I was always a book reader myself).

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Damn this is a good series,

Spoiler

Left a perfect setup for a second season with Lucifer pissed enough at Dream to expand hell into the dreaming, then Earth and onto heaven

it's on Netflix though so hopefully it'll make season 2.

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Kinda disappointed about the ending if this doesn't get a season 2. Won't get to see the wars and stuff the good bits :\ Overall good series

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Wow... as a fan of the comics, since I was in HS, I was very satisfied. It was EVERYTHING I wanted... just perfect!

I can't wait until the Key to Hell cool

https://next-episode.net/sig/sig.php?alias=default&kk=fe18e3ede310c4d0ddb3af64211e19ec

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I liked everything but the occasionally obtrusive score and the always obtrusive Patton Oswalt.

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mrverene wrote:

I liked everything but the occasionally obtrusive score and the always obtrusive Patton Oswalt.

I agree, with Patton Oswalt and Stephen Fry, it lost me.

DRM "manages access" in the same way that Prison "manages freedom".
http://xkcd.com/488/

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Having watched only 1x1 and 1x2, I like it. It's not as great as I had hoped, but surely good enough to keep watching!

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Well,... a nice idea dragged down by 202x-area production level decisions.

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1) Who thought it would be a good idea to let Patton Oswald voice Matthew? It is so out of place, that every-time that bird opens it mouth... pardon, beak... I cringe and it ruins the moment. It is just awful! Awful to a point I'm considering using some audio-tool and strip out the raven voice and overlay it with some kra-kra-kra and have the subtitles work. Bah....
2) All of the imagery is dark and most of the time beautiful arranged and fitting the setting... and then we get Gregory, Goldy, Cain and Abel at the house of secrets where the whole arrangement was more fitting to a Disney-show for teenagers. Alright... can be ignored as it is only 2 or 3 scenes... but I don't really understand why break the dark theme for a comical one in this instances.
3) Yeah,.... why do they always have to change things around to promote diversity? I just don't get it. Why is it necessary to make John Constantine to a Johanna... which then of course is gay, since she left the sand with her girlfriend as John did in the books. Why do we need to have Lucifer and Lucien be females? Why does Unity Kinkaid and the whole Walker-Family had to be cast black? Why are Death and Lucien have to be black?  (Well, for Death, I don't mind since I guess Death will appear to anyone in a way which makes them most comfortable... but Lucien? And why black, why not Indian or Asian? No Asian's around in Dreamland? Well, personally I don't have any issues with skin color, gender or sexual preference... but I hate it if things get needlessly shoved down my throat to carry a message which has no other meaning then promote the Zeitgeist. E.g., I think Desire is a great cast.... and matches my expectation of an androgynous gender-fluid being as the story requires. Or in the 24 Hour Diner, the sexual preference used as point of conflict is well in line with the story and makes sense.

Some scenes and episodes are just great...

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like I really enjoyed the Hob Galding story line (actually like the whole episode with Death and Dream) or the 24 Hour Diner (even though, for the Diner, they could have done a bit more to explain what is really going on and what John Dee is actually doing... and why) 

And some are rather poor. In general, a mixed bag. But overall, I liked it.

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re @fassy's gender swap comments - I wonder if in this case it wasn't solely a diversity move but also a nice way of side-stepping the issue of wanting not to cast Tom Ellis and Matt Ryan without incurring the rage of their respective geekdoms.

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mrverene wrote:

re @fassy's gender swap comments - I wonder if in this case it wasn't solely a diversity move but also a nice way of side-stepping the issue of wanting not to cast Tom Ellis and Matt Ryan without incurring the rage of their respective geekdoms.

Well, the rage of the geekdoms comes one way or the other. And if they insist on swapping genders, why not then also swap Rachel to let's say a Rickard?

I really liked Tom Ellis as Lucifier, but wouldn't have said a word if they used some other actor for Lucifer in the Sandman.

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Yeah, already saw 20 memes mocking Netflix again with this, have not watched it yet, but judging from memes the whole woke checklist is checked there big_smile

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It’s a shame y’all can’t enjoy a great show just because there’s women and black people in it.

Oh, well..