The Umbrella Academy [Action, Adventure, Comedy] (Page 1 of 2)

Season 3

Brothers! What we do in life...Echoes in Eternity!

Seen it… pile of shit.

Brothers! What we do in life...Echoes in Eternity!

I’m afraid to do that for fear of being cancelled.

Brothers! What we do in life...Echoes in Eternity!

It doesn't even take that nowadays, just change your pronoun

Lets keep this discussion civil and on topic please.  I don't want to start removing posts.

What he said.

I don’t agree, I have been here since around 2006, Santah and I go way back, I was one of the first lifetime premium members and I have never encountered a concern of having my posts edited or removed.
Yes, we are using Santahs software and yes, he is the authority, but all of us old timers helped in making it what it is today in one way or another.

I don’t expect after so long to be threatened at having my posts removed just because my mindset doesn’t fit right with the woke agenda.
And yes, that forced agenda ruined a perfectly good show with perfectly good source material.

Regarding staying on topic, I think that’s exactly what I was doing.

It bothered me because I feel everything is being warped and twisted now to fit an agenda. I feel the same way about bringing politics, whether right or left into entertainment.
Entertainment is meant to be just that…. Entertainment.
And if I have to groan every time I watch something, whether because it’s political or because it’s forcibly trying to push an agenda of someone’s own private life then it’s simply not a fun pass time anymore and that is irritating.

Brothers! What we do in life...Echoes in Eternity!

Again, wish I had a like button for this forum!

Brothers! What we do in life...Echoes in Eternity!

I'm sorry, but I had to intervene here:

- I deleted the posts in this thread from Sentient's escalation onward
- I deleted the "like button?" thread which seems to have turned up to be a parallel (already escalated) discussion as in here

Please guys, read what Wizard wrote above and don't further escalate.

It's fine to discuss any topic unless it starts getting offensive and aggresive toward other forum members which those 2 threads did.

We're all here because we enjoy our TV shows right? Not to take jabs at each other?

I love you Santah.   Can we have a like button?

Brothers! What we do in life...Echoes in Eternity!

Know what, let's intrude on this...

First off, I think it really is a bit annoying how much Page's personal life has bled into the show. Acting should be allowed to be about pretending to be something you are not. At some point, maybe it would have been better to cast someone else in the first place.

But then again, "a character got a haircut and asked to be called Viktor" really does not affect the story so much that it should bother anyone.

"I don't want politics in my shows":
Well, fine. But "there is a trans person" really is not political. The whole thing is a societal issue, yes. But the only reason we think it's political is because some politicians realized that it's easier to fearmonger about weird people and promise to stop them from being weird than to actually do politics. There is a trans person on this show now. They exist, even if you consider it a mental disorder, or whatever. There is also an autistic person in this show. Is that also political, just because he's there?

@sentient:
If you let emotion bleed into a point that can be made rationally, all you do is undermine everything you say. You have also been accused of making an Ad Hominem attack, which was accurate. That's an even worse idea, because at that point, you are not even discussing the thing you were talking about anymore, and that leaves no more room for anyone to actually change their mind. Just... please don't.

Well... I think I've made this point before:

We lack outlets, platforms. The tone of discourse is getting more and more aggressive all across society. It's often agreed upon that that's in no small part fueled by self-reinforcing media/social media bubbles, often even deliberately. But I think it's made even worse by the fact that even off those, there is no place to talk anymore.

The only places left to actually meet people disagreeing with us are the ones totally unrelated to the topics at hand - such as a forum about TV shows. But since everyone is already so angry at each other, those discussions escalate quickly.

I do understand why you don't want this kind of confrontation here. It really should not be here. But I also don't think that that's what you achieve by culling it. It would be enough if there was anywhere else left for it to go, but there isn't. This way, people being angry at one another are simply interrupted before they can come to any sort of conclusion, having nothing to take out of it other than that anger. That, and the notion that talking to people rationally is clearly pointless.

If you could find a way limit the culling to the actively hostile parts, I think that might make the whole thing a lot easier to deal with in the long run.

Now, about the actual show here:

Having watched only the first 4 episodes, I think this season is already a lot less entertaining than the previous ones. It might be the limited scope of it? Or the total inability of any of the characters to comprehend where/when/what situation they are currently in? A lot of the plot is driven by lack of communication so far, and much of that lack seems really forced...