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Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi
fassy wrote:Btw, a nine year old actress which looks like a five year old girl... is not a great cast for a 10 year old in my opinion.
Yeah, I was a bit confused when she claimed to be 10 in the show. Looks way younger.
27 Reply by mrverene 2022-06-01 17:21:37 (edited by lighton 2022-06-01 17:32:12)
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1x3
▼Spoiler They actually had a barrier in the middle of nowhere like Blazing Saddles. Good thing Obi-Wan had that blaster since there was no town to go back to for a big sack o' dimes. Squeezing through the ample space around the side was clearly not an option. Just as the stormtroopers clearly couldn't have walked around the fire to catch up with the slow-moving droid lugging the limp body.
28 Reply by dominar 2022-06-01 18:46:29 (edited by dominar 2022-06-01 18:46:50)
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Strange.. i like this, star wars will always be interesting to me. With the mandalorian i already expected something well 'disney-like'. The coming back of an original character is long overdue and rewarding. but i get the criticism, wouldve liked it much more if it was an adult-genre and then i wouldve been considering the choices and acting much more...
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29 Reply by HomerS 2022-06-01 19:30:30 (edited by HomerS 2022-06-01 19:31:47)
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Young Lea is more annoying than young Annakin was, but besides that i like it so far. 1x01 was ok, 1x02 and 1x03 i enjoyed more.
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mrverene wrote:1x3
▼Spoiler They actually had a barrier in the middle of nowhere like Blazing Saddles. Good thing Obi-Wan had that blaster since there was no town to go back to for a big sack o' dimes. Squeezing through the ample space around the side was clearly not an option. Just as the stormtroopers clearly couldn't have walked around the fire to catch up with the slow-moving droid lugging the limp body.
Yeah, made no sense! ▼Spoiler And Darth Vader just giving up in that situation? With his opponent so weak, just a short distance away? Come on! At least the rest of the episode was good. ▼Spoiler By the way... Vader's black marble throne can't be that comfortable to sit on!
31 Reply by proteinnerd 2022-06-02 20:27:51 (edited by proteinnerd 2022-06-02 20:28:15)
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lighton wrote:mrverene wrote:1x3
▼Spoiler They actually had a barrier in the middle of nowhere like Blazing Saddles. Good thing Obi-Wan had that blaster since there was no town to go back to for a big sack o' dimes. Squeezing through the ample space around the side was clearly not an option. Just as the stormtroopers clearly couldn't have walked around the fire to catch up with the slow-moving droid lugging the limp body.
Yeah, made no sense! ▼Spoiler And Darth Vader just giving up in that situation? With his opponent so weak, just a short distance away? Come on! At least the rest of the episode was good. ▼Spoiler By the way... Vader's black marble throne can't be that comfortable to sit on!
▼Spoiler why didn't Vader just force crush the droid or force grab Kenobi back? and
▼Spoiler How did Reva walk down the same corridor that Leia was running down (with a huge head start) and somehow end up in front of her... Are the writers idiots or do they just think all the watchers are idiots? Its gotta be on one or the other.
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Hopefully, the last episode wasn't a sign of things to come, the glaring plot holes were ridiculous.
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At least it's more entertaining than the non-Mando eps of Boba. I've got enough cw shows under my belt that I'm not really bothered by plot holes, just amused.
34 Reply by TheFizza 2022-06-06 03:56:40 (edited by TheFizza 2022-06-07 08:41:21)
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fassy wrote:TheFizza wrote:She's badass!
Hmm.... after ep2 I am already tired of that little princess. All the running around like a crazed toddler. Without these chasing scenes the show would be much better imho. Btw, a nine year old actress which looks like a five year old girl... is not a great cast for a 10 year old in my opinion. Hope, she gets dropped off home in the next episode and is never seen again in this season.
I feel your POV, however considering that the Powers That Be over at DisneySW seem to be attempting to stick with the Ep IV meeting of Luke & Obi as probably the first of any significant time I doubt we'll see Obi doing much developing of that relationship with regards to his next 10 yrs... as such I have a feeling a considerable amount of time will be spent on Leia and Obi possibly on this Lone Wolf & Cub style adventure, possibly (as the seasons progress) on further adventures Which, as I said, while I can see your point... for me, my disbelief has been suspended more for this Baby Leia than, even this many years on, I can for Baby Ani in Ep I. And it's okay, I think, for not every performance to work for everyone watching, that being as it is the reality we are forced to reckon with is this Disney+ series may be all we'll have covering this time for Obi and considering that at least this isn't Ewok Adventure level of Star Wars young adult stories, I can roll with it. Also keep in mind I read that terrible Kenobi novel and I can tell you right now, it could be sooooo much worse
35 Reply by fassy 2022-06-07 17:44:17 (edited by fassy 2022-06-07 17:45:27)
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Dropped it someway through ep3. I think when Vader landed in that village. Just to silly and boring. Bad acting, weak characters and too many inconsistencies and plot-holes accumulated by now. I like the idea that it tends to be a bit more rigged to the adult audience. But it doesn't work well when you pair a stormtrooper cut in half by a laser fence with a snotty 10 year old and a goofy alien. Still like Ewan McGregor as Obi-Wan... but the rest of the show is just.... "meh". Btw, did I mention I really hate to see Indira Varma on the screen? In literally every single role she ever took?
36 Reply by paisley1 2022-06-12 21:49:13 (edited by paisley1 2022-06-12 22:12:55)
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I'm loving this, 104 was great! I was hoping Obi-wan would open up.... ▼Spoiler ...all the frozen carbonite Jedi's in the basement, at least Ongree, to make his escape, that woulda been awesome! Ok, I thought the way Tala managed to get to the basement around Reva, strained credulity. proteinnerd wrote:lighton wrote:mrverene wrote:1x3
▼Spoiler They actually had a barrier in the middle of nowhere like Blazing Saddles. Good thing Obi-Wan had that blaster since there was no town to go back to for a big sack o' dimes. Squeezing through the ample space around the side was clearly not an option. Just as the stormtroopers clearly couldn't have walked around the fire to catch up with the slow-moving droid lugging the limp body.
Yeah, made no sense! ▼Spoiler And Darth Vader just giving up in that situation? With his opponent so weak, just a short distance away? Come on! At least the rest of the episode was good. ▼Spoiler By the way... Vader's black marble throne can't be that comfortable to sit on!
▼Spoiler why didn't Vader just force crush the droid or force grab Kenobi back? and
▼Spoiler How did Reva walk down the same corridor that Leia was running down (with a huge head start) and somehow end up in front of her... Are the writers idiots or do they just think all the watchers are idiots? Its gotta be on one or the other.
@Proteinnerd
▼Spoiler No offense intended here, but the assumption is that Reva never went down the corridor Leia went down, but Reva found another way to the end of the corridor to kill whoever was there before Leia got there, and to kidnap Leia for information, to expose and develop Reva's nefarious, clever, and force sensitive character. I never assumed Reva followed Leia down the same corridor though, lolz. @fassy How dare you, Indira Varma was great in Rome, Luther, and Game of Thrones, lolz. I'll give you this, I didn't know how over exposed she is on TV, she's in absolutely everything....that I don't watch, lolz. Really good agent, just hard working, nepotism? I dunno. I like Ewan McGregor too, he's always been so solid on screen, but I haven't seen him in anything since Christopher Robin and Long Way Up. @ All of you people annoyed at plot holes It's a Star Wars TV show! Need I say more? Like honestly. You want plot holes and contrivance, just go back and watch the first Star Wars movie, A New Hope. If you compare this, to that, it's pretty much the same. My encouragement is to turn your brains off, crack a beer, and relax about it, this isn't Succession, lolz.
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I can't remember not liking Indira Varma in anything, and I've seen her tons over the years.
38 Reply by paisley1 2022-06-12 22:42:30 (edited by paisley1 2022-06-12 22:42:45)
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mrverene wrote:I can't remember not liking Indira Varma in anything, and I've seen her tons over the years.
Ya, who knows, maybe fassy just can't stand her face, or maybe it's because Indira's Swiss (those bastards), lolz, I dunno what it is specifically, but she's great as Tala in Obi-wan to me, as well as everything else. ...I can't believe you can still watch CW shows, that's amazing, high pain tolerance?
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Compulsion and high speed watching. Still painful though.
40 Reply by TheFizza 2022-06-13 03:14:20 (edited by TheFizza 2022-06-13 03:19:43)
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proteinnerd wrote:▼Spoiler By the way... Vader's black marble throne can't be that comfortable to sit on! why didn't Vader just force crush the droid or force grab Kenobi back? and How did Reva walk down the same corridor that Leia was running down (with a huge head start) and somehow end up in front of her...
I've been wondering why the series has been lacking in displays of the FORCE... I feel like Clone Wars Era Obi & Ani would have had the most bass ass of fights but they barely used any FORCE powers either of them... I wonder if that is budgetary restrictions or if it has some larger implications. I seem to remember Yoda talking about issues accessing FORCE abilities at one point prior to the Emperor's assentation... but I don't quite recall the specifics. Whatever the reason I too was disappointed however, overall, it's better than a lot of other live-action SW content... and I, for one, enjoy spending time in the universe. It's rather sad that my SW meter has to include levels of acceptable not so good shenanigans. To be frank, it almost felt like the ultimate troll when Lucas sold the IP to Disney only for them to release, what they called, "Episodes VII, VIII & IX"... like he was showing us, it could've been sooooo much worse than what we got under his guidance. So, yeah sure, ideally Obi would make complete sense and all the performances would work for everyone... but at this point, really, I'm just glad it's not unwatchable FORCE dyad level shenanigans. Sad, I know, but my take on things may just be the reality for a considerable amount of folks watching... but who knows?!
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I'm with you Fizza - eps 7-9 really set a standard for gawwdddawwwful that they're (hopefully) not going to be able to touch again. The tv stuff is at least back to normal standards of better or worse. So far this one's middling for me on live action with best Mando eps being the apex and non-Mando Boba eps being the nadir. Nothing they've done on D+ is remotely bad if we bring Last Jedi into the conversation.
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I think "god-awful" is a bit strong. I've seen so much god-awful TV over the years that doesn't even compare to Obi-Wan Kenobi.
2020. Meh.
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I think you misread me. My god-awful was referring to movies ep 7-9.
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mrverene wrote:I think you misread me. My god-awful was referring to movies ep 7-9.
You're right, I did. But even so, I think "god awful" is a bit strong for the movies too. I've seen FAR worse.
2020. Meh.
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Adjusting for studio/budget and the how-could-you-screw-up-so-bad-when-you-had-lightsabers factor I'm not sure I've seen a worse movie than Last Jedi.
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I agree with mrverene, when you factor in budget to outcome, the last 3 Star Wars movies would have to rank as the worst movies ever produced.
47 Reply by TheFizza 2022-06-14 03:39:06 (edited by TheFizza 2022-06-17 06:59:05)
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mrverene wrote:Adjusting for studio/budget and the how-could-you-screw-up-so-bad-when-you-had-lightsabers factor I'm not sure I've seen a worse movie than Last Jedi.
And geez have you read some of the things they didn't do in the 'sequels' or the Colin Trevorrow Episode IX script? Which is actually not much better than what we got... leading one to wonder, "What are these fools doin'?!" Like it was crazy too, how at first, Disney could purchase this IP which comes with tons of lore, characters and stories which the fanbase already loves in the forms of comics, games and novels but then rather than producing something new with any of those well loved commodities Disney pushed their all-new creations. I mean, I know they were thinking with their soulless lust for cash, which they call a heart, over at the Big D but where was the common sense?! Had they made a Fett or Mara Jade series right out the bat and maybe asked Lawrence Kasdan or Jonathan Hales as well as any number of SF writers with there feet already in the universe (it seemed they forgot Leigh Brackett, the Queen of Space Opera, had co-writing credits on The Empire Strikes Back) to work on some movie projects we'd likely have had much better memories of the last decade But instead of putting their ear to the ground in the fandom, following the clearly labeled maps for success and failure left behind or trying to replicate success by hiring those who have already had success, we get movies even George Lucas thinks are dumb... this is the guy who thought Jar Jar was hilarious and Howard The Duck would be the biggest comedy of 1986, even he was watching the new movies through a facepalm. I guess, all I'm saying is that we're lucky Obi-Wan isn't completely indecipherable gobbledygook... which to be fair isn't a high standard but until Seth MacFarlane creates Space Peacemakers [that's the best I've got off the cuff, so get off my back ] or whatever, where things makes some semblance of sense I'm thankful there are parts of the SWU where I can still find joy... What I'm saying is, Star War is a spectrum
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paisley1 wrote:mrverene wrote:I can't remember not liking Indira Varma in anything, and I've seen her tons over the years.
Ya, who knows, maybe fassy just can't stand her face, or maybe it's because Indira's Swiss (those bastards), lolz, I dunno what it is specifically, but she's great as Tala in Obi-wan to me, as well as everything else.
Easy, I just don't like her acting(*). Nothing to do with her face (she is actually quite beautiful) or nationality (close enough to mine anyway)... (*) and there is a long list of actors I just can't stand and hate their style even though they are usually perceived as great actors, e.g. Tom Hanks or John Travolta.... if they enter the screen I hit the off-switch.
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Ep 5 seemed an improvement ▼Spoiler even despite them giving Christianson some dialogue. Just now occurred to me - I really miss the credits paintings. I guess they're reserving those for the Western inspired ones.
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mrverene wrote:Just now occurred to me - I really miss the credits paintings. I guess they're reserving those for the Western inspired ones.
Aren't they all Western inspired...
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