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The Witcher in 15 Minutes | Netflix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6zJ7fJ5fKs

If you need a recap of The Witcher Season 1 before Season 2 arrives, let us guide you through the events of Season 1, from the incident in Blaviken to the Battle of Sodden Hill, in chronological order.

Damn... I had forgotten how much happened in season 1! yikes

I hope to find the time to start watching season 2 soon. smile

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Wow, thanks for that.
I watched season 2 but was wondering what was going on - that helped me remember a lot of stuff.

DRM "manages access" in the same way that Prison "manages freedom".
http://xkcd.com/488/

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I can't speak to the games but they're really far afield of the books after s2. That's a good thing as the books are boring as hell.

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Just finished it and I think it was Better Than Season One!

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Agreed, getting rid of the unexplained time jumps helped a ton. Not to mention keeping the singing mostly confined to pubs so i could hit the skip forward button without missing story.

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Who is playing Geralt now?

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I think it's still Cavill for s3 and Liam Hemsworth for s4

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If you're like me and need a little reminder of what exactly happened in the previous seasons...

WATCH THIS Before The Witcher Season 3! | Henry Cavill | Netflix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDEWFCP28kA

One of the best - and funniest - recaps ever! big_smile Great editing.

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lighton wrote:

If you're like me and need a little reminder of what exactly happened in the previous seasons...

WATCH THIS Before The Witcher Season 3! | Henry Cavill | Netflix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDEWFCP28kA

One of the best - and funniest - recaps ever! big_smile Great editing.

Its astounding how little of that I remembered lol

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waiting for the last 3 episodes before i watch so i don't have to watch the recap twice tongue

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Well, for me the only reason to watch this is Cavill. The rest is just a godawful. And I don't even complain about black elves, a hugely diverse magic council or

Spoiler

the gay Radovid-Jaskier setup, lesbian Philippa and SM-Dykstra

I don't think, these "creative additions" sit well in the Witcher world, but I could live with it.

I just dislike everything about the show since beging season 2. The whole storyline and storytelling is kind of confusing, most of the characters are highly unlikeable and to be honest... most of the actors just can't pull me in... bad acting all over the place. Worst offender here are Anya Chalotra and Triss Merigold for me. Unfortunaly they play two very iconic and important roles... Yenn and Triss... which is a shame.

Together with some very strange visuals like how the dwarfs are setup. They just filmed a normal human and then in post-processing shrank it down/copied into the scene as "smaller version human". Or the female dwarf weapon smith with the glue-on-beard. I mean... WTF? They have the iconic franchise, the have the money,... how could nobody say "look, those dwarfs look stupid, lets copy from Lord of the Rings...". Or some of the CGI for the mages are just... bad.

Anyway, I guess I am not the target audience for a Game of Thrones-politic game meets Amazon LotR meets Witcher mash-up.

I really liked the episodic season 1.

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I partially get your criticism, fassy, but are there any fantasy shows that hold up to your high standards? smile I find The Witcher quite enjoyable (story, acting, settings, costumes, ...)!

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I've really enjoyed this season so far, although episode 5 was a little boring.
Bring it on!

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lighton wrote:

I partially get your criticism, fassy, but are there any fantasy shows that hold up to your high standards? smile I find The Witcher quite enjoyable (story, acting, settings, costumes, ...)!

Well, depends on what we rate as "fantasy". If we look at high fantasy, yeah... not too much here which I really like. If we count GoT in that genre... then I think I enjoyed the first couple of seasons. And like I said, I like the first season of The Witcher.

So, what do we have? Rings of Power? Awful! Wheels of time? Yuck!  House of Dragons? Meh.

Are there any more noteworthy medieval fantasy shows? Don't think so. Even though I did not like the Lord of the Rings and Hobbit movies when they were released... by now I actually like them a lot and for me are a good example how medieval fantasy should look and feel like.

Going away from medieval, there were some quite decent fantasy shows around like Carnival Row or Penny Dreadful. Or Supernatural (up to some point), or Van Helsing, or ... quite a lot of others.

But back to the Witcher:

I just don't like the way of storytelling in Season 02 and 03. They kind of give a crap on the lore and world-building or consistency. I could even live with that if the story would be told well. But it isn't! The whole "scheming" of the political actors including the council of mages is just a mess. It is hard - I would argue actual impossible - to follow who is doing what and absolutely no word of why. It is hard enough to follow who is supposed to be who (especially having the books - not the game - in mind), but then some of the afore mentioned creative additions are just ridiculous attempt to appease a certain audience.

And about the acting... in my opinion, the only one doing a good (actually awesome) job here is Cavill. The rest of the cast (including Batey) is quite weak. Not sure if is really the acting or the bad dialogues/weak scenes. But I am not impressed. e.g. I liked Chalotra in season 01, not so much 02 and 03... quite bad.

Yes, settings and costumes are mostly alright. And one or the other monster fight pretty awesome, e.g. the flesh monster. Actually... just the one... the others were not that impressive (baby wyvern, aeschna, jackapace)

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fassy wrote:

e.g. the flesh monster

Oh right,

Spoiler

Surely I can't be the only one who saw those stalk face things and immediately had to think of these guys?

https://cdn2.highdefdigest.com/uploads/2022/09/16/monty-pythons-meaning-of-life-4kultrahd-bluray-review-highdef-digest-2.png

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Now that's a cliffhanger!

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Well those last three episodes were a massive pile of shit.

Brothers! What we do in life...Echoes in Eternity!


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some_one wrote:
fassy wrote:

e.g. the flesh monster

Oh right,

Spoiler

Surely I can't be the only one who saw those stalk face things and immediately had to think of these guys?

https://cdn2.highdefdigest.com/uploads/2022/09/16/monty-pythons-meaning-of-life-4kultrahd-bluray-review-highdef-digest-2.png

Would that make Geralt the maitre d' or Mr. Creosote?

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The princess' and the Witcher's physical suffering in the last two episodes was too long-drawn-out for my taste, but other than that I enjoyed season 3.

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bvereshagen wrote:

Would that make Geralt the maitre d' or Mr. Creosote?

Well, thanks for the entirely unwanted reminder of that particular skit. Actually... somehow a comedy troupe managed to create a more effective example of body horror than whatever the afforementioned "flesh monster" was more than 30 years ago.


lighton wrote:

The princess' and the Witcher's physical suffering in the last two episodes was too long-drawn-out for my taste, but other than that I enjoyed season 3.

It really wanted you to keep track of all the dozens of characters and their names this time around, yet gave at least me absolutely no reason to care about any of them. Not good, that. Then again, GoT was kinda the same and everyone seemed to enjoy it there...

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Oh gawd, what an ending... I hope they can keep it up without Cavill?!

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No Cavill - No watching

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Full Disclosure:  I think The Witcher is a bad story, plagiarized, borrowed, and hackneyed. I have never liked it.

I finally marathoned all three seasons of The Witcher, and it progressively got worse, like season 3 was terrible.  Thing is, I finished the game multiple times, trying for different endings (there are 16 endings to the base game), so I'm very familiar with that world.  I felt as though the main plot should have been told in passing in flashback, as all the writers really needed to do is a basic procedural outline to entertain it's audience:  Geralt gets a contract, tracks a monster, kills the monster, gets new abilities, finds cool loot, repeat for 10 seasons.  Deviating from this basic outline only annoys audience. tongue lolz.  Storyline should only focus on what directly affects Geralt, and be very first person, everything else political should merely serve as window dressing for a Witcher contract or mission.  I would set hard and fast teleplay constraints with the writers of this show. 

If I were to organize the short stories and novels into a TV show, season 1 episode 1 would absolutely start with the conjunction, what it looked like, how it works, and what it means for everyone, and a history lesson of why everyone is where they are, with lots of close ups of maps showing where all the realms are and the power struggle between groups, kinda like Lord of the Rings did, then I'd get into Ciri and the elder blood, and start Witcher contracts, and get into the Witchers.  Everything else, you'd learn from an exposition moment by someone explaining to Geralt what happened in flashback, ie. Ciri in the desert (flashback), Mage Battle (flashback), etc.  When this show did flashbacks, you didn't know they were flashbacks all that well, and it was confusing because they were doing too much with an ensemble cast with multiple storylines, when it should've focused only on Geralts story.  I guess I just disagree with their approach to making a TV series for The Witcher, I think it works better as a procedural than a serial, because the story is so bad. tongue lolz

I have all the other swords he used in the show, Witcher Steel Sword (Season 1), Forgotten Wolven Steel Sword (season 2 & 3), but at the end of season 3 in the woods Geralt is practising with a sword with a twisted metal cross guard, didn't recognize it, so I looked through my entire inventory, no idea.  If you know what it is, let me know.

Annoyance:  Jaskier/Bard is Dandelion.  Using his Polish name in English drove me crazy!  Just call him Dandelion.

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paisley1 wrote:

Full Disclosure:  I think The Witcher is a bad story, plagiarized, borrowed, and hackneyed. I have never liked it.

I finally marathoned all three seasons of The Witcher, and it progressively got worse, like season 3 was terrible.  Thing is, I finished the game multiple times, trying for different endings (there are 16 endings to the base game), so I'm very familiar with that world.  I felt as though the main plot should have been told in passing in flashback, as all the writers really needed to do is a basic procedural outline to entertain it's audience:  Geralt gets a contract, tracks a monster, kills the monster, gets new abilities, finds cool loot, repeat for 10 seasons.  Deviating from this basic outline only annoys audience. tongue lolz.  Storyline should only focus on what directly affects Geralt, and be very first person, everything else political should merely serve as window dressing for a Witcher contract or mission.  I would set hard and fast teleplay constraints with the writers of this show. 

If I were to organize the short stories and novels into a TV show, season 1 episode 1 would absolutely start with the conjunction, what it looked like, how it works, and what it means for everyone, and a history lesson of why everyone is where they are, with lots of close ups of maps showing where all the realms are and the power struggle between groups, kinda like Lord of the Rings did, then I'd get into Ciri and the elder blood, and start Witcher contracts, and get into the Witchers.  Everything else, you'd learn from an exposition moment by someone explaining to Geralt what happened in flashback, ie. Ciri in the desert (flashback), Mage Battle (flashback), etc.  When this show did flashbacks, you didn't know they were flashbacks all that well, and it was confusing because they were doing too much with an ensemble cast with multiple storylines, when it should've focused only on Geralts story.  I guess I just disagree with their approach to making a TV series for The Witcher, I think it works better as a procedural than a serial, because the story is so bad. tongue lolz

I have all the other swords he used in the show, Witcher Steel Sword (Season 1), Forgotten Wolven Steel Sword (season 2 & 3), but at the end of season 3 in the woods Geralt is practising with a sword with a twisted metal cross guard, didn't recognize it, so I looked through my entire inventory, no idea.  If you know what it is, let me know.

Annoyance:  Jaskier/Bard is Dandelion.  Using his Polish name in English drove me crazy!  Just call him Dandelion.

Agree with many of the things you describe.

I would add that Dandelion should've been a narrator to the story. You have a Bard as a main character, use him to tell the story.

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@WilliamDrakeMcGregor - Using Bard to narrate would have to be written/handled with a lot of thought and artistry.  Off the top of my head, it could make the show too much about Bard instead of The Witcher, deflate the suspense in Bard's encounters, make the tone too upbeat, and the story even more corny, if not handled well.  I guess, if we were to restart a new Witcher Procedural TV show, and Bard remained a background character, who was a novelty to encounter, who's stupid behaviour provided some much needed comic relief, using him to narrate could really work.

In fact, if all the other characters were a novelty to encounter, it would make them that much more interesting and enticing to get to know.  Boring as they are, there just aren't enough episodes to flesh out an entire ensemble cast of characters backstories enough to care, as 9 episodes a season is barely enough to get to know Geralt or the rest of the Witchers, let alone an entire ensemble cast, but I digress.