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Topic: The Wheel of Time

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The Wheel of Time is based on Robert Jordan's series of fantasy novels. At the center of the Wheel of Time's diverse cast of characters is Rand al'Thor, a seemingly average young man who is destined for something bigger ...

The Wheel of Time turns and authors come and go. Books become myth, myth becomes TV shows for teenagers.

I have to say this: {grump on} They changed stuff, some by necessity, others with no discernable reasons. But I don't have to like it.{grump off}

The sets and landscape are gorgeous and I thought the acting was good. What I disliked was the crudeness inserted into what was a pretty clean read. For me, this changed the characters a little. I also liked the costuming, which challenged the memories I'd built. I do wish Moiraine had her jewel, though.

The Husband loved it, so episode 2 is queued up.

Your thoughts?

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Big fan of the books here! Altho it's been a while since I last read them, so I probably won't be that irritated about changes they did.
Checking this asap.

https://next-episode.net/sig/sig.php?alias=default&kk=6a8a6be017f155ddf75243c3ce62695b

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Thanks for the head up will take a look

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Also a huge fan of the books... but a little nervous about how this adaptation will turn out, could be a hit or a total disaster based on the trailers so far.

I just hope that Amazon gives the show a bit of time to find it's stride. Given there were 13 books there is obviously a tonne of source material to work with, they've got to find what works best to tell the story on TV.

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I noped out at the 32 minute mark of ep 1. haven't read the books but felt like i'd already watched the show dozens of times.

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Wow! Loved 1x1! I had no specific expectations and liked what I saw. smile Will continue watching for sure.


dj2weave wrote:

Also a huge fan of the books... but a little nervous about how this adaptation will turn out, could be a hit or a total disaster based on the trailers so far.

I just hope that Amazon gives the show a bit of time to find it's stride. Given there were 13 books there is obviously a tonne of source material to work with, they've got to find what works best to tell the story on TV.

Oh, good to hear. smile


mrverene wrote:

I noped out at the 32 minute mark of ep 1. haven't read the books but felt like i'd already watched the show dozens of times.

If you've stopped there you've missed all the best parts! cool

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where is Janzo?

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I don't remember a character named Janzo. Explain, please?

Finished ep 3 tonight. The more I watch, the more sour I get. It's like that scene in "The Sixth Sense" where Haley Joel Osment asks Bruce Willis to tell him a bedtime story and the prince gets in his car and drives and drives and drives some more and keeps on driving...
These characters run and ride and run and ride some more and nothing is explained, so unless you've read the books, it's pretty flat.
However, I'm *compelled* to watch the rest. Such is the memory of an addiction.

I wonder if Lanfear will show up in this first season? And who will play her? There are 2 actresses listed on IMDB who have no character assigned...

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TeaAndApathy wrote:

I don't remember a character named Janzo. Explain, please?

Finished ep 3 tonight. The more I watch, the more sour I get. It's like that scene in "The Sixth Sense" where Haley Joel Osment asks Bruce Willis to tell him a bedtime story and the prince gets in his car and drives and drives and drives some more and keeps on driving...
These characters run and ride and run and ride some more and nothing is explained, so unless you've read the books, it's pretty flat.
However, I'm *compelled* to watch the rest. Such is the memory of an addiction.

I wonder if Lanfear will show up in this first season? And who will play her? There are 2 actresses listed on IMDB who have no character assigned...

I have only watched the first eps and got me thinking this the just finsihed, budget production "The Outpost" an olden days rustic story. Janzo was the amusing eclectic character who solved all the problems was every thing unappreciated son, doctor, scientist, publican and beer mixer, who moved like the hunch back of Notre Dame. I was joking.  Maybe look up the show.

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lighton wrote:

Wow! Loved 1x1! I had no specific expectations and liked what I saw. smile Will continue watching for sure.


dj2weave wrote:

Also a huge fan of the books... but a little nervous about how this adaptation will turn out, could be a hit or a total disaster based on the trailers so far.

I just hope that Amazon gives the show a bit of time to find it's stride. Given there were 13 books there is obviously a tonne of source material to work with, they've got to find what works best to tell the story on TV.

Oh, good to hear. smile


mrverene wrote:

I noped out at the 32 minute mark of ep 1. haven't read the books but felt like i'd already watched the show dozens of times.

If you've stopped there you've missed all the best parts! cool

yeah it became The Lord of the Rings?

Spoiler

with the beasties/orcs and a female Gandalf

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Oh man I love this show.  Why do I get strong Saturday morning TV vibes from this?  Probably the classic middle of the road fantasy fiction Lord of the Rings / Narnia / Game of Thrones / Once Upon a Time / Stargate vibes, combined with the amount of wide screen shots and then super super super super tight close ups, lolz, but regardless, it's such an inviting watch.  Rosamund Pike really carries the show well.  While everyone else is trying to make TV look like movies this feels like classic TV again.

What I also found refreshing was that, although there are strong parallels in the cultures and worldviews they portray to our own, it wasn't preachy and trying to give a message in it's portrayal of those cultures and worldviews, but just trying to tell this story as best they could in the first 3 episodes, which I appreciated.  I can see this type of story getting REALLY preachy if it's not handled well.

Oddly, I found episode 101 was the weaker episode.  Too CW.

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ah talking about the Outpost. eps 3  in the mining town wiith  the willie nelson singer, Janzo's black blood priesttess girl friend , Wren, tuns up as the bar lady. maybe Janzo will save them after all

all in all some great scenary. how many are real though?

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merc wrote:

where is Janzo?

merc wrote:

ah talking about the Outpost. eps 3  in the mining town wiith  the willie nelson singer, Janzo's black blood priesttess girl friend , Wren, tuns up as the bar lady. maybe Janzo will save them after all

all in all some great scenary. how many are real though?

You did this before. Please don't randomly mention a character from another (unrelated) show. If you must, explain right away why you mention a character from another show.

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mrverene wrote:

I noped out at the 32 minute mark of ep 1. haven't read the books but felt like i'd already watched the show dozens of times.


I'm 3/4 of the way through episode 3 and I know exactly what you mean about feeling like you've watched it a dozen times before.

I'm not saying it's bad but its just ... really generic. I'm really not sure if I'll even bother finishing this episode, its all just been done before and done better.

I've never read the books but don't people rave about them and say they are amazing? I'm not getting that at all from this.

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My feeling is the books were very influential but practically everything they've influenced got adapted before them. I may be missing out by not watching it but I'm thrilled to not have yet another show to plow through.

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proteinnerd wrote:
mrverene wrote:

I noped out at the 32 minute mark of ep 1. haven't read the books but felt like i'd already watched the show dozens of times.

I'm 3/4 of the way through episode 3 and I know exactly what you mean about feeling like you've watched it a dozen times before.

I'm not saying it's bad but its just ... really generic. I'm really not sure if I'll even bother finishing this episode, its all just been done before and done better.

Definitely generic, and I kind of like that about it.  A solid 6.75/10 that I'd recommend with a bowl of sugary cereal while in your pajamas. lol  Haha, just checked rotten tomatoes and the critics are giving it a 68%!  lolz.  That's what I'd give it.  https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_wheel_of_time

What current fantasy fiction shows are better than this though?  It was more watchable to me than Outlander, See, or The Witcher, as far as current fantasy fiction goes.  I usually find fantasy fiction so unwatchable I can't take more than a few minutes before turning it off, like everything on The CW, SyFy, & Netflix.  Perhaps you guys managed to stomach a lot of garbage I couldn't watch and ruined shows like this for yourself. 

Let me know the alternatives that made you feel like you watched this a dozen times.

@Merc  I lasted a whole 10 minutes of the Outpost and turned it off.  Unwatchable. 3/10.  At best.

This editorial in the Hollywood Reporter about The Outpost was hilarious: 
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv … w-1125787/

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paisley1 wrote:
proteinnerd wrote:
mrverene wrote:

I noped out at the 32 minute mark of ep 1. haven't read the books but felt like i'd already watched the show dozens of times.

I'm 3/4 of the way through episode 3 and I know exactly what you mean about feeling like you've watched it a dozen times before.

I'm not saying it's bad but its just ... really generic. I'm really not sure if I'll even bother finishing this episode, its all just been done before and done better.

What current fantasy fiction shows are better than this though?  Perhaps you guys managed to stomach a lot of garbage I couldn't watch and ruined shows like this for yourself. 

Let me know the alternatives that made you feel like you watched this a dozen times.


Ha ha its very possible I’ve slogged my way through worse trash than you can stomach. I used to have the stupid belief that once I started something I had to finish it….not anymore though.

The most recent show that this reminds me of is the Shannara Chronicles, S1 I enjoyed but S2 was a disappoitment

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paisley1 wrote:
proteinnerd wrote:
mrverene wrote:

I noped out at the 32 minute mark of ep 1. haven't read the books but felt like i'd already watched the show dozens of times.

I'm 3/4 of the way through episode 3 and I know exactly what you mean about feeling like you've watched it a dozen times before.

I'm not saying it's bad but its just ... really generic. I'm really not sure if I'll even bother finishing this episode, its all just been done before and done better.

Definitely generic, and I kind of like that about it.  A solid 6.75/10 that I'd recommend with a bowl of sugary cereal while in your pajamas. lol  Haha, just checked rotten tomatoes and the critics are giving it a 68%!  lolz.  That's what I'd give it.  https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_wheel_of_time

What current fantasy fiction shows are better than this though?  It was more watchable to me than Outlander, See, or The Witcher, as far as current fantasy fiction goes.  I usually find fantasy fiction so unwatchable I can't take more than a few minutes before turning it off, like everything on The CW, SyFy, & Netflix.  Perhaps you guys managed to stomach a lot of garbage I couldn't watch and ruined shows like this for yourself. 

Let me know the alternatives that made you feel like you watched this a dozen times.

@Merc  I lasted a whole 10 minutes of the Outpost and turned it off.  Unwatchable. 3/10.  At best.

This editorial in the Hollywood Reporter about The Outpost was hilarious: 
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv … w-1125787/

well as I said before eps 1 of the wheel  reminded me of the Outpost with its rustic inn and town, then it shifted to Lord of the Rings half way through. The Outpost did get better than that news report assessed on just one eps.

I have now watched all 3 eps and it is fellowship x3. Nice scenery and cgi city. its painless to watch

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merc wrote:

well as I said before eps 1 of the wheel  reminded me of the Outpost with its rustic inn and town, then it shifted to Lord of the Rings half way through. The Outpost did get better than that news report assessed on just one eps.

I have now watched all 3 eps and it is fellowship x3. Nice scenery and cgi city. its painless to watch

Fair enough.  Strong Narnia vibes too, with the look of the trolic's, at least to me.  Just thought you might know the other 11 shows this reminded you of, lolz.

protiennerd wrote:

Ha ha its very possible I’ve slogged my way through worse trash than you can stomach. I used to have the stupid belief that once I started something I had to finish it….not anymore though.

The most recent show that this reminds me of is the Shannara Chronicles, S1 I enjoyed but S2 was a disappoitment

I totally forgot about the Shannara Chronicles, I shut it off right around the point we meet John Rhys-Davies.  Honestly, it's the low production quality of those shows, with poor decisions in production like the over saturated color palette and then the story is just a pre-teen after school special; a boring melodrama.  The wheel of time, has that baked in there, but it isn't the focus, but it's definitely there, Amazon don't wanna lose them teens, but it's for an older audience as well, unlike the Shannara Chronicles. 

The closest TV shows that The Wheel of Time reminds me of is like, Game of Thrones (that has great elements) meets Once Upon A Time (plenty of garbage fantasy fiction elements).

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paisley1 wrote:

What current fantasy fiction shows are better than this though?

Exactly! smile I've watched 1x2 and 1x3 now, will continue for sure. Good (enough) story, good acting, good special effects, beautiful filming locations!

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lighton wrote:
paisley1 wrote:

What current fantasy fiction shows are better than this though?

Exactly! smile I've watched 1x2 and 1x3 now, will continue for sure. Good (enough) story, good acting, good special effects, beautiful filming locations!

no humour though. takes it self too seriously. and trollocks rhymes with a uk/English swear word B******ks