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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi]

This show feels like a big budget garbage, cannot decide to drop it or continue to watch it. Some bits are interesting and then back to fake and boring.

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g371 wrote:

This show feels like a big budget garbage, cannot decide to drop it or continue to watch it. Some bits are interesting and then back to fake and boring.

well only one eps left?

I am inclined to agree. shows like this worship at the books altar.

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi]

Both of you should stop watching the show. Those of us who appreciate the show should continue. smile

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lighton wrote:

Both of you should stop watching the show. Those of us who appreciate the show should continue. smile

too late as season is over bar an eps or 2

105 (edited by g371 2021-11-16 15:33:52)

Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi]

Spoiler

is it a door?!
yes
piu, piu
smiling Hari appears


also noticed the magical resurrection of everybody who were lying on the ground until "null field" was not turned off by tapping twice on a magical thingy?

they cannot remember from where people came originally, have nanobots and still have toothbrushes in bathrooms

also some low end bow makes a total sense when you have lasers and remote control space ships you can use as guns smile

106 (edited by merc 2021-11-17 16:06:43)

Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi]

g371 wrote:
Spoiler

is it a door?!
yes
piu, piu
smiling Hari appears


also noticed the magical resurrection of everybody who were lying on the ground until "null field" was not turned off by tapping twice on a magical thingy?

they cannot remember from where people came originally, have nanobots and still have toothbrushes in bathrooms

also some low end bow makes a total sense when you have lasers and remote control space ships you can use as guns smile

Spoiler

was this door opening & Harry whats his name coming out in the book? And the object was not made by Harry and his cohorts so how did he get access to it? and how did it get there in the first place? smacks of "Another Life"

107 (edited by g371 2021-11-18 16:26:02)

Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi]

merc wrote:
Spoiler

was this door opening & Harry whats his name coming out in the book? And the object was not made by Harry and his cohorts so how did he get access to it? and how did it get there in the first place? smacks of "Another Life"

Spoiler

or how he even is walking? he is not supposed to be dead? smile or there will be some magic, that girl already stepped into supernatural powers area

also when they did that "jump" - one guy "dreamed" them home, she was not affected by the jump because she is a superman cousin, but what about the two more characters who also jumped? huntress was so fresh that she managed to fight right after smile

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g371 wrote:
Spoiler

or how he even is walking? he is not supposed to be dead? smile or there will be some magic, that girl already stepped into supernatural powers area

Spoiler

Wasn't it established it was holographic Seldon?

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi]

imadsani wrote:
g371 wrote:
Spoiler

or how he even is walking? he is not supposed to be dead? smile or there will be some magic, that girl already stepped into supernatural powers area

Spoiler

Wasn't it established it was holographic Seldon?

Spoiler

yes in that dreadful chat with that dreadful Gaal on the ship she has no control over. all seems a fudge to me what with him appearing in an alien artifact

you'r spoil for spoilers here

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Spoiler

yes, on the ship, but there he was walking down the hill, with gravity working on him

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi]

well the season is over with probably the best eps of the lot.

Spoiler

I liked how Empire midday snuffed out all empire dawn's girlfriend relatives singling out all the various connections with the wave of a wrist. Then when midday and dusk empire are fighting the robot snaps dawns neck. , cold hearted bitch. As for Gaal well we know she had to turn up again and I dont think she appreciated meeting her daughter wondering when she had had the fun of "doing it"

any way have to wait another year now?

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi]

Lovely season finale.

Spoiler

Curious to see what the implications of the gene editing will be in season 2. Could get bloody, but at least interesting! smile

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lighton wrote:

Lovely season finale.

Spoiler

Curious to see what the implications of the gene editing will be in season 2. Could get bloody, but at least interesting! smile

a long old wait why I dont like series like this

114 (edited by paisley1 2021-11-22 18:53:14)

Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi]

110.  A bit of a let down.  I wish I cared but I don't.  Way too much screen time was wasted on Sal and Hugo's pointless romance.  The deflationary approach to episodes is predictable and obvious, and leaves little suspense.  Special effects and set design were beautiful though, and like I said in my first post, "all that dirty Apple money will make good wall art out of Foundation."

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi]

lighton wrote:

Most of you guys complain about the show, but it still holds a good IMDb rating. I hope for more seasons! smile

For whatever it's worth,  I think the show is awesome and a Season 2 can't come soon enough.  smile
Pretty sure I gave 9/10 @ IMDb.

I'm curious, did your projected story line re. Gaal and Salvor play out as hunched?   I think it was becoming clearer the last 3rd of the season, but that predictability bothered me not. The full circle moment was still satisfying, for me anyhow.

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kurschnextepisode wrote:

I'm curious, did your projected story line re. Gaal and Salvor play out as hunched?   I think it was becoming clearer the last 3rd of the season, but that predictability bothered me not. The full circle moment was still satisfying, for me anyhow.

Only partially. smile I don't mind predictability in a show as long as not too much is easy to guess.

https://next-episode.net/the-magicians was a great example for low predictability. cool

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi]

Enjoyable so far....for the most part. The timelines to me, are rather confusing. Lee Pace is excellent.

118 (edited by xxFelixDCatxx 2022-01-12 19:20:38)

Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi]

This is the kinda show that gets a 9/10 or even full 10/10 from me.

Watched through all eps at least 3 times now and am considering a 4th. Personally, I like the fact that the story is on 2 separate periods of time, because on watching through again, everything makes so much more sense. Rewatching knowing which characters belong when was rewarding. Personally I tend to like shows that don't just hand you the story and expect you to roll with it.

I've also read these books, and while I didn't love them, I did get pretty immersed in the ideas of those books. To those saying this show 'worships at the books altar', LMAO! Every character would be an old white dude who sits around smoking "vegan tobacco" if that were the case. The Sherriff, would have said "violence is for the stupid" instead of her dad saying it, and the whole situation would have been solved by talking it through.

Those books are for fans of 12 Angry Men, and I'm talking about the original 50s movie.

Keep in mind this is the book series that has inspired the worlds of Coruscant in Star Wars, Tatooine, and the world from Dune. And was written by Isaac Asimov, the dude who coined the words, 'android', 'cyborg' and a whole slew of other science fiction concepts.

Between this and Wheel of Time, I had never been more excited to see my beloved books come to life since the Harry Potter movies were still coming out.

Too bad WoT was a complete dud.


This however, I think captured the awe of the size of the Empire, and the general tone and pacing of the books, while managing to be totally separate and unique to them. For instance, Gaal being female, and the semi-religious aspect to her is, I think, an amazing addition to her character. Her being from a water world and the whole swimming stuff is unique to her btw.

If you find it boring, sorry. This skyrocketed into my top 3 SciFi list of all time after 1 season. The other two being The Expanse, and Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis, right up the the replicator storyline.

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xxFelixDCatxx wrote:

This is the kinda show that gets a 9/10 or even full 10/10 from me.

Watched through all eps at least 3 times now and am considering a 4th.

I love how much you love the show! big_smile (IIRC I never watched any show more than twice. And hardly any show more than once.)


xxFelixDCatxx wrote:

Those books are for fans of 12 Angry Men, and I'm talking about the original 50s movie.

Hey, 12 Angry Men (1957) is a great movie! smile (I won't watch the 1997 TV movie version, but I really like how 'old' the trailer looks. smile )


xxFelixDCatxx wrote:

Between this and Wheel of Time, I had never been more excited to see my beloved books come to life since the Harry Potter movies were still coming out.

Too bad WoT was a complete dud.

Interesting... I've enjoyed https://next-episode.net/the-wheel-of-time about as much as Foundation, albeit for completely different reasons.

I like the idea of watching Foundation a second time, but I'm not sure I'll be willing to spend the time needed... We'll see. smile

120 (edited by paisley1 2022-01-13 05:16:01)

Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi]

@xxFelixDCatxx  It's great to hear that you enjoyed this so much, and I wish you were commenting with us on the episodes as they were airing on Apple TV.  Gaal Dornick was the best part of the show, and I really enjoyed her too. 

I'm certainly no fan of the books or Isaac Asimov's writing style, lolz, (in my first comment I bashed Isaac Asimov's prose lol), but I love his imagination and there's so much to pull from within all seven books that I would've preferred a longer linear approach to this series that brought me into this world better and created more suspense, especially as noted in our discussion of episode 109.  So much was left unpacked and not fleshed out, that it felt rushed and without the depth that's so easily accessible, but still a fun ride and worth the watch.

Have you guys seen rotten tomatoes score for Foundation?  70% Critic Score and 57% Audience Score.  I'm with the critics.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/foundation

lighton wrote:

Hey, 12 Angry Men (1957) is a great movie!

Agreed.  In a woke cancel culture, people could use a little sober second thought, look intently at their own prejudices, and not rush so quickly to convict.  Amazing movie.