1 (edited by paisley1 2021-04-26 08:30:01)

Topic: Red Dead Redemption 2

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I just finished Red Dead Redemption 2 on PC to 100% completion for the story, the challenges, the side quests, and the entire trapper catalogue, and I wanted to start a discussion forum on this game for its storytelling.

This is one of the best stories I've ever watched, Arthur's life actually gripped me emotionally, which was not something I was expecting from a video game, I thought it would be cheezy and stupid like most video games, with predictability and heavy handed characters, and I was so surprised at how nuanced and intricate and believable the characters and events were written in relation to the time period, that I really felt like I was actually there.  Chapters 1 to 6, and epilogue 1 and 2, play out like an 8 part mini series.  There's this line in chapter 3 where Hosea says, "I just don't want to see any more people die, Dutch." and I got goose bumps.  This game was so emotionally gripping at times, and in other times hilarious and comical, but in a believable way that felt honest to the people and time period that my hats off to the writers for doing such an incredible job.  In a time when there's not a lot of good TV to watch, give this a shot.

To really appreciate it though, you need to play it in 4k with a beefy graphics card.  It's absolutely gorgeous.  AAA.  11/10.

It's not without it's faults, as there's plenty of added junk only worth looking up online to find, and plenty of missed opportunities, like, wouldn't it be great if there was a quest with the Trapper where you got to do some actual trapping, and also get to "track a mean tempered moose across an ice sheet for three days just to have a square meal."? lol  The Trapper was probably the best, yet least utilized character in the game, and ya, the user interface sucks.

No, I haven't found Gavin; No, I haven't found Isabel; No, I haven't caught the Legendary Channel Catfish, and No, I haven't seen Jerry the Falconer west of Annesburg and said hi from the Trapper yet, but I'm still looking for them, 10 more animals, 10 more weapons, and how to get a gold completion for more than 3 quests, to truly finish this mammoth of a game! lol

If there's anyone out there on next-episode.net that's played it, let me know your thoughts.

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Awesome game.

RDR 1 was my favorite game on PS3.

Bought a PS4 the moment RDR2 was announced (though had to wait a while until it was finally released).

To say I had high expectations would be an understatement, and it was a bit worrisome, but the game managed to over deliver and blow me away story, graphics and game play wise.

Normally, I go through the main story of a game without wasting time in side quests or to explore the world.

In RDR2 - I had to finish all side quests and I'd waste hours just roaming around the world enjoying it's beauty and the ton of things you can do in it.

I didn't find any of the things you mentioned as well and I don't mind it.

Epic story and you said it best - "I really felt like I was actually there".

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3 (edited by paisley1 2021-04-26 20:58:36)

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Santah, I am honoured to have you comment on this forum about this game.  Long time, man.  smile  I love your site by the way.  Thank you so much for everything you do.

I'm still reeling over having just completed Red Dead Redemption 2 to 100% yesterday, and it's a bit overwhelming.  I wanted to enjoy it in all of its 4k beauty, so the fans have been running pretty hard and loud on my computer for the last month to manage the overclocking and keep the temps down, and FPS up.  Could've really used a 3090 for this, but my 2070 will have to do for now until the mining craze dissipates.

If you want to talk wasted hours roaming on Red Dead Redemption 2, I'm at 484.5 hours to date, and I feel like I haven't started.  I've played more hours of Kingdom Come Deliverance though, and I think I was more satisfied with the UI and gameplay, but RDR2 just looks so much more beautiful and there's so much more to do.  It's an astounding game.

The voice acting was incredible, I really felt like I knew the characters at the end, too.  Everyone knows a guy like Uncle, lolz.

Just wish I could own more horses, and keep them all at my stable at my ranch.  Also wish weapons would stay locked when I set them, and clothing wouldn't switch out when I change something, and the engage with object point was a bit further back and smoother like hitching a horse, and people on horseback didn't constantly and purposely try to run into you, and the saves would just load to last save point rather than going forward and losing money as I was always waiting twice, once for the load forward and then again for the reload back to a previous save.  It's not without it's annoyances, but I can't really complain because I got this game for free as a part of a marketing deal when I bought my Intel processor.

The money and hat you get for completing the exotics quest is a bit of a slap in the face if you ask me.  It should be $10,000.00 and 5 sets of clothing.

The Legend of the east satchel is a bit stupid.  A backpack or saddle with increased carrying capacity makes more sense.  The satchel is a bit like Mary Poppins handbag, which is what I called it throughout my gameplay.  If it's going to be magic and hold 99 of everything, instead of 6 perfect squirrels you should at least kill a magic animal to make it, am I right?  Kingdom Come Deliverance did a better job at the logic behind the horses carrying capacity and speed.

The grave sites, dinosaur bones, and dreamcatchers were all really dumb ideas to me, so straight to the internet to finish those waaay at the end of the game after everything else was done.

Turns out, getting the owl talisman from Eagle flies would've made my life a whole lot easier as Arthur, but didn't know how to get it until I went to youtube waay post credit as John....pretty easy to do.

Also, time trials are dumb.  Getting a gold relies on how fast you can complete a task, and that's just the opposite reason of why I play an RPG.

I like the paisley vests, for obvious reasons.

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Thank you smile

Woah, close to 500 hours, good for you!

I must've had 1/10 of that. Tops.

I played it when it got released, so kinda long time ago now - don't really remember many details now days, unfortunately ...

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6 (edited by paisley1 2021-04-27 20:22:31)

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3 days 20 hours 36 minutes?  How?  Not first attempt I take it.  If so, Spyder23, you are my new hero.  Do you have any thoughts about the game though?

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wow, i wish i had the time and dedication to do that.

i gave it a go on ps4 and i did enjoy the first 10 hours, but i really could not find the time to play more, and after a long break it was not as good to come back, as i forgotten everything, and i did not want to repeat the 10 hours again...

however, since cyberpunk was such a disappointment, if i ever have the time and nothing to do, i will give it another go.

i am 1080ti 11gb with 2k display and i don't plan to upgrade at all, as i think i am just going to keep my gaming to shorter non graphically demanding games similar to telltale from now on, if my gaming PC dies, as, again, i just don't have the time or will to play for so long any longer.

still, i will consider this before cyberpunk (witcher 3 i have completed 2 times in about 150-170 hours total, so i was expecting better quests and stories from cyberpunk, but alas i got bland characters i did not care for instead)

8 (edited by paisley1 2021-04-28 07:41:11)

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xsoviet wrote:

wow, i wish i had the time and dedication to do that.

i gave it a go on ps4 and i did enjoy the first 10 hours, but i really could not find the time to play more, and after a long break it was not as good to come back, as i forgotten everything, and i did not want to repeat the 10 hours again...

however, since cyberpunk was such a disappointment, if i ever have the time and nothing to do, i will give it another go.

i am 1080ti 11gb with 2k display and i don't plan to upgrade at all, as i think i am just going to keep my gaming to shorter non graphically demanding games similar to telltale from now on, if my gaming PC dies, as, again, i just don't have the time or will to play for so long any longer.

still, i will consider this before cyberpunk (witcher 3 i have completed 2 times in about 150-170 hours total, so i was expecting better quests and stories from cyberpunk, but alas i got bland characters i did not care for instead)

That's funny you should mention that you enjoyed the first 10 hours and then stopped, because I struggled getting into RDR2 all the way through chapter 1; everything bothered me, like figuring out the controls, what the game wanted me to do in the very linear story I was forced into at the beginning, understanding a horrible user interface, getting the graphics settings tuned in, that I was so frustrated I just hate closed it for over a year. In the mean time I finished a bunch of other games like Fallout 4, Death Stranding, Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Order, Kingdom Come: Deliverance, and Anno 1800, and I have a bunch of others on the bubble. A friend of mine encouraged me to go back and finish RDR2 back in March, and I'm glad I did.  The story and graphics are the best in the world.  The user interface is still terrible though, and should be redesigned altogether; I can't stress that enough, Kingdom Come Deliverance has a way better UI than RDR2.  A circle that you have to spin through to open up items, was stupid when I started, and its stupid today.  Press and hold B to go through horse items, and then you have to scroll through a tiny screen to find the items you're looking for?  Utter madness!  Just make the screen bigger!  Also hitting escape or hitting and holding escape to get out of 5 different pages to access all the game information was borderline unbearable throughout my gameplay that it still annoys me.

As for Cyberpunk, I never play a game at launch.  Ever.  I don't need to be first in line to play a game, I wait at least 6 months so all the guinea pigs who buy the game at launch can help the devs get the bugs out, then I wait for a sale.  My friends, they love being guinea pigs for game studios; helps the economy I suppose.

I played the Witcher 3 for 30 hours, and couldn't take it anymore, I thought it was terrible, both the story and the graphics.  Unpopular opinion I know, but not a game I recommend, so when I heard CDProjekt Red was going to make another game I was first shocked they were still in business and then I just assumed it would suck like The Witcher 3, and I guess I was right, but I haven't played it yet, so I have no idea.

The 1080ti is quite possibly the greatest graphics card in the history of graphics cards, price to performance, and if you got it on sale sometime during launch, wow, my gosh, what a steal, because you won't buy a graphics card with that performance at that price point ever again I imagine.  Be kind to it, it's a very unique card to have in light of history.   No RT cores though and not as energy efficient as they're making them today.  I have a P2000 and a 1080 as backups.

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paisley1 wrote:

That's funny you should mention that you enjoyed the first 10 hours and then stopped, because I struggled getting into RDR2 all the way through chapter 1; everything bothered me, like figuring out the controls, what the game wanted me to do in the very linear story I was forced into at the beginning, understanding a horrible user interface

My thoughts exactly.

Had it been any other game I would've dropped it in the first 1-3 hours, but my love for RDR1 made me push through what was indeed a very slow, confusing and kinda annoying beginning of the game.

I also convinced a few friends not to give up right there (and they were very thankful after and one of them completed it to 100% like you guys).

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I loved Witcher 3.  Played that and the expansion for well over 100 hours - easily one of my favourite games.

RDR2 I played for a couple of hours and just didn't get into it.  The same with Cyberpunk.

2020.  Meh.

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santah wrote:
paisley1 wrote:

That's funny you should mention that you enjoyed the first 10 hours and then stopped, because I struggled getting into RDR2 all the way through chapter 1; everything bothered me, like figuring out the controls, what the game wanted me to do in the very linear story I was forced into at the beginning, understanding a horrible user interface

My thoughts exactly.

Had it been any other game I would've dropped it in the first 1-3 hours, but my love for RDR1 made me push through what was indeed a very slow, confusing and kinda annoying beginning of the game.

I also convinced a few friends not to give up right there (and they were very thankful after and one of them completed it to 100% like you guys).

Ok great, I thought I was alone on this.  I complained about the user interface the whole way through.  Maybe why it took me so long to finish.  I highly recommend the DiabloII user interface over the one for RDR2.  Inventory on the left, character items on the right, tabs to change everything out, it's so simple, efficient and fun that it should just be standard for all RPG's.

It also frustrated me that I couldn't keep all the hats that I found.  Some were keepable and others were not.  They had to glow in order to keep them.  Also, I wish I could take all of a characters clothing when they die, like every other RPG I've ever played!  It was weird I had to leave stuff behind after you kill a guy, you only get a few useless items and it only counts for your honor if they were bad.  Shouldn't making use of things, be rewarded.  Also, there's no need for an entire town to shoot you to death for lightly touching an NPC with your horse.  That drove me nuts, as there was no justice system that made any sense, as NPC's were constantly jumping out of the way for no reason and blaming all their problems with walking on you. Very frustrating.

So it's completely understandable why someone would have trouble getting into RDR2.  My only encouragement to try it again is that the story is nuanced and expansive, and the graphics are the best in the business.  There is no better game for story and graphics.

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As of July 15, 2021, DLSS for Red Dead Redemption 2 is now live and it's amazing.  Update and enjoy!