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Topic: Netflix Is Creating a Problem By Canceling TV Shows Too Soon

Netflix Is Creating a Problem By Canceling TV Shows Too Soon
https://developers.slashdot.org/story/2 … s-too-soon

Netflix is killing its most interesting shows in their infancy and it could be the streaming giant's downfall. In the seven years that Netflix has produced original content, the world of TV streaming has dramatically changed. Now Netflix is getting left behind in the race it started. Many of its unique and ambitious shows have been canceled before they could reach their full potential. And Netflix keeps churning out more shows each year, without replicating the breakout success of 2016's "Stranger Things."

Statements from executives have described the cancellations as the result of a cost analysis that tells Netflix a longer-running show won't lead to new subscribers. Still, with syndicated shows such as "The Office" and "Friends" leaving its platform and a string of disappointing cancellations, including "Glow," Netflix has set itself up for a disaster when it comes to its reputation as a TV-watcher's must-have service. In 2020 alone, Netflix has canceled 18 original series. Of those, 14 had only one season. [...] TV lovers in these fandoms can only be burned so many times before they stop investing. Why should a Netflix subscriber spend 10 hours watching a new show if there's a decent chance they'll never see it end?

I like this comment:

I suspect the bigger danger is big name producers not wanting to commit to Netflix. If I'm developing a serious production with multiple big name stars attached, I'm going to be *very* nervous about signing up with netflix who might just cancel after a season or two automatically based on the subscriber thing, regardless of how popular the show was. Every time they prematturely cancel a show that hadnt been running into troubles, hundreds and possibly thousands of hollywood people are walking away with a chip on their shoulder about netflix, and this IS NOT a sustainable habit to get into.

Remember, the key point of netflxis's behavior here is not "how popular the show is" but "how many new subscribers are we converting". It might make sense for netflixes accounting department, but marketing and acquisitions ought be pretty nervous about the whole thing.

I agree: if I had a "serious production" where I want to tell a longer story, Netflix would probably not be my first choice.

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It seems likely that they have reached and saturated as many markets as they currently can.
So, in theory, they should refocus their efforts from market acquisition towards being a better long-term service provider for both customers and the industry in general. If they fail to do that...

An interesting take on this, thanks for sharing.

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interesting discussion

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I often find myself browsing through Netflix and thinking to myself (and out loud to my wife) that Netflix is crap and there is 'nothing' on it to watch... dont know how long ill continue paying for my subscription.

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Plus, consider the other main complication of this scenario... which is, Netflix exclusives can't legally be picked up by other networks for a period of time after they are cancelled (because of evil clauses...so it's basically Krampus' fault? /jk), so that only ends up messing everything up further.

https://www.reddit.com/r/television/com … couple_of/

And having to wait 2-3 years (or whatever the time period is) to get the chance to renew it, most networks would likely feel that that's too much time to have passed to bother, or (depending on circumstances), not be practical to bother.

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bexpress wrote:

Plus, consider the other main complication of this scenario... which is, Netflix exclusives can't legally be picked up by other networks for a period of time after they are cancelled (because of evil clauses...so it's basically Krampus' fault? /jk), so that only ends up messing everything up further.

https://www.reddit.com/r/television/com … couple_of/

And having to wait 2-3 years (or whatever the time period is) to get the chance to renew it, most networks would likely feel that that's too much time to have passed to bother, or (depending on circumstances), not be practical to bother.

Yeah, I agree, having to wait 2-3 years makes a renewal elsewhere quite unlikely. sad

Thanks for the link, some interesting info there:

Netflix is unabashedly data driven, with many of its decisions based on algorithms. That’s how the network reportedly switched from the initial (and traditional) 13-episode seasons to seasons of 10 episodes or less. Word is that those shorter seasons are considered optimal for consumption, and any additional episodes beyond 10 a season do not add value, so they are an unnecessary expense for the network.

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It doesn't take much of an algorithm to see if a series has been binge watched, or individual episodes from start to finish, which should tell them they have something good on their hands worth watching.

I find information about series and films I want to watch from other websites, not from Netflix itself which I find a chore going through. They should really have another section on the homepage that is easy to read and doesn't require clicking into / out of just to find out about something.
In other words, they should be a lot better at promoting things.

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God - I thought I was the only one.

I really hate getting into a series to find out that it is cancelled after 2 seasons when the series was obviously meant to be longer.

A) I don't feel fulfilled and feel like I have watched something that was just a complete waste of my time

B) All of that potential just gone

I now pay more attention to what I am watching and gather some basic reviews from other websites, to find out if most of the comments say "ended too soon" or "another series left without an ending".

I would rather not start a series and miss out - rather than start a series where I am left on a knife edge at the end.

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I'm really salty over the cancel of Santa calida diet) spelling) it ended on a cliffhanger too sad hopefully they make a movie or something.

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And now https://next-episode.net/living-with-yourself is cancelled sad

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All that is nothing compared to watching useless 6 seasons of Lost big_smile

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g371 wrote:

All that is nothing compared to watching useless 6 seasons of Lost big_smile

Some say, it's all about the journey and not about the destination smile

The destination of Lost was crap but the journey was (mostly) great, so i would still recommend watching it.

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I cancelled my subscription to Netflix as there was just too many series especially sci fi that were being cancel way too soon and being replaced with utter crap. Then when they pulled the plug on Shadowhunter's I was done that was my reason to say goodbye. I have not watched Netflix for a over a year and happily say I do not miss it.

Love and Sunshine big_smile

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Shadowhunters wasn't a Netflix production, was Disney/ABC on their Freeform channel or whatever they're calling it this week. General point remains but I imagine if it were produced for Netflix it'd probably have had a wider viewership and have lasted longer.

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People still watch Netflix?

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You'd think they'd be more worried about the number of customers canceling subscriptions due to premature show cancelations than gaining new subscribers, this policy is like trying to bail out a sinking boat with a bucket full of holes.

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mrverene wrote:

Shadowhunters wasn't a Netflix production, was Disney/ABC on their Freeform channel or whatever they're calling it this week. General point remains but I imagine if it were produced for Netflix it'd probably have had a wider viewership and have lasted longer.

I am in Australia that is the streaming platform that Shadowhunters was made available to watch was on Netflix. I am aware that is was a ABC/Freeform production

Love and Sunshine big_smile

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HomerS wrote:
g371 wrote:

All that is nothing compared to watching useless 6 seasons of Lost big_smile

Some say, it's all about the journey and not about the destination smile

The destination of Lost was crap but the journey was (mostly) great, so i would still recommend watching it.

yep - i agree ...

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+1

Awesome show.

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Tasviewer wrote:

You'd think they'd be more worried about the number of customers canceling subscriptions due to premature show cancelations than gaining new subscribers, this policy is like trying to bail out a sinking boat with a bucket full of holes.

This is a great point and I totally agree. 

Netflix just throws darts at a dart board trying to luck out with a show that's popular and hits their algorithm, rather than taking their time and building a brand, like HBO, where they produce a limited variety of shows that are a complete work and so exceptional they find new audiences for years to come.

Instead of greenlighting so many shows, I'd prefer Netflix would stop saying yes to everything, and with the money they save, focus on the shows that are working and make mandatory minimum episodes per season, like 20-25, and release them week to week so that people stick with the Network, and then back them to completion so we have something to re-watch.  I get Netflix for one month, watch everything I want, and cancel it, which means I have no investment in their brand or their back catalog.

Netflix is like the McDonald's of the television world, because sometimes you hate yourself.

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