Topic: Altered Carbon [Action, Crime, Sci-Fi]

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This is set in the 25th century when the human mind has been digitized and the soul itself is transferable from one body to the next. Takeshi Kovacs, a former elite interstellar warrior known as an Envoy who has been imprisoned for 500 years, is downloaded into a future he'd tried to stop. If he can solve a single murder in a world where technology has made death nearly obsolete, he'll get a chance at a new life on Earth.

It's a great show that currently holds a 8.1 IMDb rating. Looking forward to season 2! smile

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I just wish the Takeshi Kovacs actor/sleeve would be the same. cool

2017:
ALTERED CARBON Official Trailer (2017) Netflix
https://youtu.be/5r8pAMMeNPo

2020:
Altered Carbon | Season 1 Official Recap | Netflix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mknz1JY9dWM

Altered Carbon Season 2 | Main Trailer | Netflix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MzbLQBeR9Y

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It's actually pretty stupid.

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Altered Carbon Season 2 was never part of the plan for showrunner Laeta Kalogridis or Netflix, but the network went ahead and renewed the series anyway. It wasn't exactly a surprise, given its critical success here on Den of Geek and elsewhere. Although the next Richard K. Morgan book in the series might be of too large a scale to be adapted the way the first Takeshi Kovacs novel was, there are plenty of other planets in the settled worlds for the series to explore if that's the direction Kalogridis chooses to go.

Alison Schapker will take over for Kalogridis as showrunner and executive producer of Altered Carbon, bringing her wealth of genre TV credibility to the series. Schapker has produced on sci-fi juggernauts like Lost and Fringe as well as other geek favorites such as Charmed, The Flash, Alias, and Almost Human. Other executive producers include James Middleton, Mary Ross, David Ellison, and Dana Goldberg.

Altered Carbon Season 2 Release Date, Trailer, Cast and Details

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Thanks, scorpius074.

"After decades of planet-hopping and searching the galaxy, Kovacs finds himself recruited back to his home planet of Harlan’s World with the promise of finding Quell. [...] With the help of his loyal A.I. Poe (Chris Conner), Kovacs must now partner with new allies to outwit his enemies and find the truth: Who is Quellcrist Falconer?"

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I'm curious to learn how they've liberated Poe from the hotel... IIRC they said in season 1 that Poe is the hotel. smile

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Not brilliant but pretty good overall.

I'm a sucker for anything that can use the words 'dystopian', 'apocalyptic' or 'noir' in its description so this fits a few bills.

Some of the dialogue is very bland, but some is excellent. Some of the plotting is wide open and I've got to turn the critical part of my consciousness off but the overall themes work very well for me. Most of the action scenes are very well done. I like the characters. The exposition is annoying though.

Did you know: they use the titles of film noir's as episode titles?

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'Altered Carbon' Season 3 Needs A Bigger Budget, If Netflix Renews It At All
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/ … e308e46f95

Good article. Interesting:

...this season isn’t being as well-received by fans as the first. Curiously, critics are reviewing season 2 better than season 1 (82% versus 68% on Rotten Tomatoes), but fans are the polar opposite. Season 1 has a 90% fan review score while season 2 has crashed down to a 38%.

The author's criticism is valid, but I still have enjoyed season 2 so far.

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lighton wrote:

'Altered Carbon' Season 3 Needs A Bigger Budget, If Netflix Renews It At All
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/ … e308e46f95

Good article. Interesting:

...this season isn’t being as well-received by fans as the first. Curiously, critics are reviewing season 2 better than season 1 (82% versus 68% on Rotten Tomatoes), but fans are the polar opposite. Season 1 has a 90% fan review score while season 2 has crashed down to a 38%.

The author's criticism is valid, but I still have enjoyed season 2 so far.



No mystery as to why critics are reviewing it positively, just put a diverse (read non-white) cast and make the women empowered and the critics will love it even if it is crap.

It was such a disappointment after the great first series yet .... another great franchise falls victim to woke Hollywood and SJWs.

Yep, just found this in the article https://www.wired.com/story/altered-car … rovements/ :

"Given all this, it’s perhaps not surprising that the team that turned Altered Carbon into the show it should have been is radically different too. Where the first season was crafted almost exclusively by white men (with the exception of showrunner Kalogridis), this season is penned and directed almost exclusively by women or by men of color."

Honestly, why does this even matter? Shouldn't it read "this season was penned and directed by the best people they could find for the job" who gives a XXXX what colour, sex or preference they have and why is that even worth reporting on?

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proteinnerd wrote:

Honestly, why does this even matter? Shouldn't it read "this season was penned and directed by the best people they could find for the job" who gives a XXXX what colour, sex or preference they have and why is that even worth reporting on?

I think there is nobody who disagrees with you on that. The reason articles like this are a thing, though, is because your headline should by pure chance regularly result in their headline, but it still rarely does, so it actually ends up being interesting for some.

Whether regularly reporting on it makes it better or worse, that can be argued about.

proteinnerd wrote:

It was such a disappointment after the great first series yet .... another great franchise falls victim to woke Hollywood and SJWs.

Perpetuating derogative terms that are often used by people who just want to be an asshole for a bit may not be the best reaction here either. It only adds more friction to the whole situation and ultimately to more of these articles; hell, for all we know they did simply choose the people they considered best for the job and only the article made it about something else.

I am not saying you can not use these words, just that you should maybe consider whether they actually help us get anywhere.


Besides, I did not think it was poorly made. The quality seemed generally similar to season 1 to me; it's just that the story was not nearly as interesting this time around. Considering they are making this off a book series... it happens.

Here's hoping for a good season 3, still.

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proteinnerd wrote:

It was such a disappointment after the great first series yet .... another great franchise falls victim to woke Hollywood and SJWs.

When I read such negative/ exaggerated comments I often wonder if we both watched the same show...

The season 2 I'm watching is a good season (with a powerful woman and a lesbian couple,) that probably should have gotten a bigger budget.

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Season 1 was interesting. I liked the steampunk atmosphere (especially Poe and his hotel smile ). Although slow at moments, the story, characters and settings were engaging. Season 2 was much slower, there were less characters and the story wasn't very entertaining. I will give season 3 a try, but I don't expect much.

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I'm at 2x05 at the moment and still pondering if i should finish season 2, it feels much more like a chore to watch compared to season 1.

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lighton wrote:
proteinnerd wrote:

It was such a disappointment after the great first series yet .... another great franchise falls victim to woke Hollywood and SJWs.

When I read such negative/ exaggerated comments I often wonder if we both watched the same show...

The season 2 I'm watching is a good season (with a powerful woman and a lesbian couple,) that probably should have gotten a bigger budget.


If you enjoyed I then that's great for you....it appears a LOT of people share my thoughts on season 2 however.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2261227/re … ef_=tt_urv

Plus I don't see how just by having a powerful woman and a lesbian couple make it good.

Wasn't Martha Higareda who played the tough as nails Detective Garcia in season 1 a "powerful woman" or  isn't Hispanic racial diverse enough to score points?

Wouldn't a great script with an engaging storyline and strong acting performances make it good, not just token diversity elements?

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proteinnerd wrote:

Plus I don't see how just by having a powerful woman and a lesbian couple make it good

It doesn't... but it also doesn't make it bad. smile

Let's hope they get a season 3 and an increased budget... that should make most people happy, even if they again sprinkle on some diversity. big_smile