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Literary speaking it's true.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speculative_fiction

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There we go again... will we argue about this now?
In my view they are all under "fiction" but we need to distinguish scientific-fiction from fantasy-fiction otherwise there is no point using any of those terms. We could call Game of thrones a sci-fi and Ender's game a fantasy but what's the point?

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No, not a back nine order. Not additional episodes.

A SECOND SEASON RENEWAL. IN OCTOBER.

What the fuck, FOX?

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Trying to define science fiction and fantasy is hard. Many installments cross over that line.

I like the definition that science fiction is something that can become true in the future with for example scientific or technological progress. Aliens can come to our world at some point for example. Still some works that i would consider fantasy can still fall into those categories so it is tricky.

For fantasy it is even harder to define it. It can have magic, strange creatures or races but those things are absent in some works. Maybe it should have an old element in it that we in the modern age have discarded but still have knowledge of. Still that is very vague and there are works that are sci fi that could fall into that definition too. For example warehouse 13.

So maybe it is best to not try and hold the two genres to much apart as they are and will always be close friends and many books, movies and tv-shows will have elements of both. Sure we can label some things but many things thrive because they have a good mix of both. Star Wars for example is often called fantasy in space.

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It seems like Fox is taking a page out of cable network playbook. I think its an interesting move on there part. The creators can tell a simple thirteen episode story without shoehorning in filler and extra stuff to cover the back nine. If the quality doesn't suffer I see no harm in this move. Plus with it being renewed it means those who were hesitant to start a sci-fi/fantasy show with how often they are cancelled before finding an audience it might mean more people will check it out. It could also backfire and those not worried the show might get cancelled could check out other shows, but I don't see that really happening.

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drizzel wrote:

Trying to define science fiction and fantasy is hard.

I like your mellow interpretationd on this.
For me sci-fi is tech we do not have/aliens/space/societies we will never reach because of our nature/etc. either one of them or all those combined.
Fantasy is swords/magic/dragons/feudalistic society/etc.
Simple and clean. no need to mix this up.

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Arthur C. Clarke wrote:

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

edit:
Consider the words "Wingardium Leviosa".
If those specific words, down to the exact pronounciation of each syllable*, somehow turn out to be connected to the inner workings of physics, then I will be very surprised. They bear all signs of being made up by someone who thought they would be appropriate. So in all probability, it was designed by someone who had knowledge about nature that we (or, the rest of the wizarding world) do not, in general, have. And what is technology but using tools (i.e. wands and language), to use and modify the state of things at will?

Then consider how Yoda raised Lukes spaceship from the swamp. No explanation but magic (aka the Force). Also, they totally have swords, a Rancor, and knights.

Which story is sci-fi, and which is fantasy again? smile

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Holy hell this is so silly.

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Orlando wrote:

Holy hell this is so silly.

Are you implying that the meticulous categorisation of fictional worlds is not a worthwhile endeavor? smile

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I was talking about the pilot. big_smile

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Orlando wrote:

I was talking about the pilot. big_smile

Oh smile
Was it good? And more importantly, was it sci-fi or fantasy? wink

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It's insane, it doesn't take itself seriously and that's why it's great (1 episode in). And fantasy. tongue

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Hahaha this show is crazy and I love it.

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Mm, I couldn't really get into it. In all fairness I was a bit distracted though.

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Orlando wrote:

Hahaha this show is crazy and I love it.

LOL, fast change of heart smile

I guess if you turn off your logic it is totally watchable.

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pablo-pancho wrote:
Orlando wrote:

Hahaha this show is crazy and I love it.

LOL, fast change of heart :)

Not really, the pilot was also amusing. :D I adore it for how crazy and silly it is, while also not being incredibly stupid and annoying. I'm enjoying the ride.

I mean seriously, "the war for independence was a war fought for the whole world" how can you not love such crazyness.

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Orlando wrote:

how can you not love such crazyness.

in real world, this is called idiocracy or stupidity. but i will let it be.

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XD

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I love it how the faith of the world always seems to dependent on a few regular people in American rural towns.

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z1rra wrote:

I love it how the faith of the world always seems to dependent on a few regular people in American rural towns.

Imagine life without the Americans. We'd have no one who could beat an alien invasion, no one to stop the apocalypse. The world would just be lost. Life just wouldn't be worth living.

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well we would atleast lose quite some good TV shows and/or possible future TV shows

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The same thing goes with shows in other countries. Shows try to get their attended audience to feel invested. Easier to get invested in a place close to home than far away.

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I didn't finish 4th episode. Boring.

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Was that Walter Bishop on the phone in ep4? smile

And what's Liam Neeson doing in Sleepy Hollow? XD

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I know John Noble is going to be on later in the season, don't recall the voice on the phone though.