51 (edited by merc 2022-09-27 09:34:53)

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just watched ep6 . the show went down a few points.they aged the king but not sir christon or it seems damian the kings brother. but chose to replace the two women. artistic bad decision in that in good shows  the actors become the character, the characters are not just clothes. this happened here atleast with Milly Alcock. there are lots of shows where it is unthinkable to do such a replacement eg sgt bilko the phil silvers show, dads army, the Got, Sharpes Rifles? they should have chosen actors in the first place who could see it through. or maybe the show should have started at eps 6 with eps 1 an early moment quickly moved on from, as they do in other shows eg Stargirl. so thumbs down.   leaving it to such a late time in the show was absurd after we had got used to the actor/characters synergy. very clumsy and a bad decision, as suggested determined by money. so we have 2 shows here really. they have done a Doctor Who? But this is not Doctor Who!

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inkblot wrote:

Why 'House of Dragon' separated the older and younger actors for Alicent and Rhaenyra.

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/why-h … 022-09-22/

And those where my two favourite characters in the female category. But I knew ahead of time. I made the mistake of checking out the series on IMDB. Those two actresses only did 5 episodes. Out of the entire season.

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And one can speculate that the king will die before season one finishes. He is not in all episodes of season 1. According to IMDB.

The url does not surprise me - wont be the first or last time that artistic directors get so caught up in artistic notions that in this case they ignore the  basic truth that the looks of the actor can be so important in shows like this ( as it is in real life) - the actor is the character. This aint Shakespeare. All the guff about not being the same person 10 years later ( Joan of Arc was a teenager? people grew up faster in the middle ages, the show is transplanting modern ideas). The show only has 10 eps so the old and new are split evenly and the young version really never got to develop far. Milly Alcock is 22  so was downplaying a teenager so surly could have upplayed some one 10 years older ( 26?). There are women who look younger than they are and the cute hard woman is always interesting as we saw with the GoT dragon queen. So a failed experiment I think

53 (edited by fassy 2022-09-28 11:29:41)

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I didn't really like Milly Alcock, but enjoyed Emily Carey on screen. To be honest, Olivia Cooke and Emma D’Arcy don't do a very good job and in general.... the series sucks.

I had high hopes in EP4 after a borefest in EP1 to EP3. But EP5 wasn't great and EP6... awful.

While I get the idea of the long time jumps between the episodes, it doesn't help to feel involved and spin a coherent story. I have a feeling I missing way to much what is happening, e.g. why the queen and the princess have such a hate for each other now. Well, they kind of indicate it in EP5, but not really develop that story.

Or why the princess' boy toy is suddenly the city guards officer and not Ser Criston anymore?

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You definitely missed stuff, or at least aren't abstracting logical conclusions from things that were shown.
I didn't like Milly Alcock either. I can't say anything about her acting good or bad as I just couldn't get past her looking identical to a guy I went to middle school with to be able to tell.

55 (edited by merc 2022-09-28 13:45:29)

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fassy wrote:

I didn't really like Milly Alcock, but enjoyed Emily Carey on screen.

......

Or why the princess' boy toy is suddenly the city guards officer and not Ser Criston anymore?

I was left confused by that. But I think after her fling with Criston she got a taste for it and clearly got to like  dudes in uniforms?  we really need to have seen this  happening, the story left Milly/the princess having just had one fling rather than become a sexpot. it has all been very clumsy

56 (edited by merc 2022-09-28 13:13:20)

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mrverene wrote:

.......
I didn't like Milly Alcock either. I can't say anything about her acting good or bad as I just couldn't get past her looking identical to a guy I went to middle school with to be able to tell.

lol

57 (edited by merc 2022-10-10 19:22:14)

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well eps 8 the details are confusing me but I got the general drift

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that they are fighting over the living corpse succession? and my goodness he has become one of the living dead, clearly use the make up artists from that show. when  we see the gruesome  sores  ( dont  have your tea watching) but the best bit for this simple soul is the throne room drama with the quip the geezer should have his tongue torn out for his slanders and Daimion cuts his  head off leaving the tongue intact with the quip well he can keep his tongue. Then we see at the corpse preparation the top and bottom halves then to the dinner and the king removes his phantom of the opera mask to reveal the empty eye socket. What surprised me that no one flinched lol This eps clearly written by a horror story writer?

This the best eps ever lol

58 (edited by paisley1 2022-10-10 20:26:15)

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merc wrote:

well eps 8 the details are confusing me but I got the general drift

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that they are fighting over the living corpse succession? and my goodness he has become one of the living dead, clearly use the make up artists from that show. when  we see the gruesome  sores  ( dont  have your tea watching) but the best bit for this simple soul is the throne room drama with the quip the geezer should have his tongue torn out for his slanders and Daimion cuts his  head off leaving the tongue intact with the quip well he can keep his tongue. Then we see at the corpse preparation the top and bottom halves then to the dinner and the king removes his phantom of the opera mask to reveal the empty eye socket. What surprised me that no one flinched lol This eps clearly written by a horror story writer?

This the best eps ever lol

108, well executed episode tongue however...

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...nothing has pushed the story forward, like the last 6 episodes is the same story over and over and over "No one is going to accept Rhaenyra as Queen.", (blah blah blah, oh my gosh who cares already), and that really hasn't changed, it's just been a ton of years since Visery's named her Queen and all the kingdoms accepted it, and all these other houses are just plotting for a throne that belongs to Rhaenyra.  I've really found the lack of anything new or interesting, quite boring.

Leveraging others to get power, as a plot device, really bores me, like Suits.  It's the same thing, over and over, from episode to episode, however, it's the near flawless execution that keeps me watching such a repetitive story.

59 (edited by fassy 2022-10-11 09:09:30)

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paisley1 wrote:
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...nothing has pushed the story forward, like the last 6 episodes is the same story over and over and over "No one is going to accept Rhaenyra as Queen.", (blah blah blah, oh my gosh who cares already), and that really hasn't changed, it's just been a ton of years since Visery's named her Queen and all the kingdoms accepted it, and all these other houses are just plotting for a throne that belongs to Rhaenyra.  I've really found the lack of anything new or interesting, quite boring.

paisley1 wrote:

Leveraging others to get power, as a plot device, really bores me, like Suits.  It's the same thing, over and over, from episode to episode, however, it's the near flawless execution that keeps me watching such a repetitive story.

Yes, sums it up pretty well... so much lost opportunity... and also almost no likable characters or charismatic actors. God, those kids and teen tyrants are awful.

60 (edited by merc 2022-10-17 19:31:13)

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eps 9 atlast something happened!!! The best eps so far - shame only one left
by the way where is the forum for "The Serpent Queen"  I thought there was one cannot find it

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ep 9 was pretty great

@merc
https://forum.next-episode.net/viewtopic.php?id=11277

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The last three episodes were great imo but ep 9 was pretty special. I see the showrunners decided to pull a switcheroo on us in relation to the books. Just an observation. wink

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atleast the pox/ulcer ridden walking dead zombie king is dead

64 (edited by nightcrow 2022-10-18 11:41:21)

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well, that was crap.

Why didnt she

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just burn them all down with the dragon and save a bunch of wars?

I saw the promo for next week and clearly they are

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going to war, which could have been totally avoided.

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65 (edited by merc 2022-10-18 12:31:57)

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nightcrow wrote:

well, that was crap.

Why didnt she

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just burn them all down with the dragon and save a bunch of wars?

also would have saved a lot of money"

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should atleast have burnt "The Hand"

and what did people think of

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Lord Larys getting jiggy with…well, let’s not linger over the details, shocking?

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merc wrote:

and what did people think of

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Lord Larys getting jiggy with…well, let’s not linger over the details, shocking?

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Creepy cunts got a foot fetish eh

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Deke wrote:
merc wrote:

and what did people think of

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Lord Larys getting jiggy with…well, let’s not linger over the details, shocking?

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Creepy cunts got a foot fetish eh

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That must be a first usually it is all ripping bodices and grunting

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scorpius074 wrote:

The last three episodes were great imo but ep 9 was pretty special.

I couldn't disagree with this any more than I do.  I don't think I've enjoyed one episode and ep9 was no exception.  It's like some dull soap opera that gets all of its drama from a scene featuring a dragon.

Yawn.

2020.  Meh.

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graybags wrote:

I couldn't disagree with this any more than I do.  I don't think I've enjoyed one episode and ep9 was no exception.  It's like some dull soap opera that gets all of its drama from a scene featuring a dragon.

Yawn.

Whether you agree with me or not is irrelevant. The fact that you made it to episode 9 feeling the way that you do is hilarious. I would've dropped the steaming pile of crap and moved on to something else a long time ago lol...

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scorpius074 wrote:
graybags wrote:

I couldn't disagree with this any more than I do.  I don't think I've enjoyed one episode and ep9 was no exception.  It's like some dull soap opera that gets all of its drama from a scene featuring a dragon.

Yawn.

Whether you agree with me or not is irrelevant. The fact that you made it to episode 9 feeling the way that you do is hilarious. I would've dropped the steaming pile of crap and moved on to something else a long time ago lol...

Hilarious why?  I liked GoT, and I rarely drop shows, I just try and persevere with alot of them, maybe in the hope that they will improve or whatever.  I'm not sure why you find that so funny, but there you go.

2020.  Meh.

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graybags wrote:

I just try and persevere with alot of them, maybe in the hope that they will improve or whatever.

Yeah, I tend to do that too. The difference with me is that I usually have my mind made up way before reaching the second to last episode of the season. If I'm having a hard time keeping my eyes open then it's not worth the rest of my time.

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scorpius074 wrote:
graybags wrote:

I just try and persevere with alot of them, maybe in the hope that they will improve or whatever.

Yeah, I tend to do that too. The difference with me is that I usually have my mind made up way before reaching the second to last episode of the season. If I'm having a hard time keeping my eyes open then it's not worth the rest of my time.

Me too, but this is House of the Dragon, it's not just some regular show I'd watch two or three episodes of and then ditch.

2020.  Meh.

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graybags wrote:
scorpius074 wrote:
graybags wrote:

I just try and persevere with alot of them, maybe in the hope that they will improve or whatever.

Yeah, I tend to do that too. The difference with me is that I usually have my mind made up way before reaching the second to last episode of the season. If I'm having a hard time keeping my eyes open then it's not worth the rest of my time.

Me too, but this is House of the Dragon, it's not just some regular show I'd watch two or three episodes of and then ditch.

109 sucked.  Usually the production value holds my attention and I can sit through an episode, but I started jumping through 109, then just skipped to the end.  So so dumb.  Ugh.  Just to pile onto this redundant conversation, sometimes it goes; good episode, dumb episode, good episode, bad episode, meh episode, but it's still worth watching until a certain point and that point is different for everyone; could be somewhere in season 3 you stop, could be the pilot.  I'll still watch the end of this season, but it got worse.

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paisley1 wrote:
graybags wrote:
scorpius074 wrote:
graybags wrote:

I just try and persevere with alot of them, maybe in the hope that they will improve or whatever.

Yeah, I tend to do that too. The difference with me is that I usually have my mind made up way before reaching the second to last episode of the season. If I'm having a hard time keeping my eyes open then it's not worth the rest of my time.

Me too, but this is House of the Dragon, it's not just some regular show I'd watch two or three episodes of and then ditch.

109 sucked.  Usually the production value holds my attention and I can sit through an episode, but I started jumping through 109, then just skipped to the end.  So so dumb.  Ugh.  Just to pile onto this redundant conversation, sometimes it goes; good episode, dumb episode, good episode, bad episode, meh episode, but it's still worth watching until a certain point and that point is different for everyone; could be somewhere in season 3 you stop, could be the pilot.  I'll still watch the end of this season, but it got worse.

well it is far better than the Lord of the Rings prequel

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It depends what you like really. I for one am all for the court intrigue and couldn't give a toss about the fantasy aspects. If your bag is the latter I could definitely see being really disappointed in HotD. I'm thinking the folks who tuned in expecting a reality show about a Chinese restaurant are really disappointed as well.