The Mandalorian (Page 9 of 9)

I could not finish it. I walked out. It was horrible.

+1

I haven't seen it yet. That's why I wanted to hear your thoughts!
I admit I look forward to seeing Grogu do his thing, but if that's all it is? Not much to look forward to. Cat videos are free.

So basically you are saying...

"Disney has F'd up yet another franchise"  ??

+1000

It is not just about CGI. Have you watched it?

The Mandalorian feels off. Usually a good Star Wars movie, immerses you, and before you know it, it is over. This new Disney Crap feels disconnected and makes you painfully aware of how long you have been sitting.

Movies or good entertainment should be fun, not a drag. Its like you as a kid watching those 3 last minutes on the school clock, before you get out and summertime begins.

They are the longest 3 minutes.

I love the honestly of this woman. Listening to her reminds me of a group of friends seeing something then going to coffee after and just going off on "what the f. did they think?"
Its why despite being a heck of an internet personality Disney banned her from premiers.  here's her review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UseQhG7TL1Y

And if you'd like her pedigree for being a lifelong Star Wars fan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQKYyccNRKI

well have a look at your self,
how old are you?  which star wars was your first?   ( that is a big one)
left right or center, any story is going to annoy someone.
and people no longer get annoyed, they get vocally fanatic.
(usually because no matter where you are digital media is targeted to make you mad
so everyone is primed to be pushed into " defend and attack" mode)
society has not changed, society's ability to ignore the worst of things
to see the good things and have productive dialogs however is beaten out of most people.
it shows in media, dating politics and schools.
answers (factual or wrong) are a search away for any side of a debate.
but are usually covered in political, religious or cultural support.

even for stuff in starwars.....

first gens ( the orginal trilogy) fought over ewoks.
second gens fought over jar jar
third gens have their fights  ( i have no idea because to me they were so meh, who cares)
( Han went out like a sheep to slaughter, at least luke died spitting in their face, and i forget how leia went)
and everyone thinks their universe is the right vision.

so yes nothing has changed, but every tribe has gotten more specialized and smaller and more targeted
so your tribe is smaller and it appears like you are more alone segregated in society.

for example i saw a video on the cartoon arcane and it delved into the reasoning and thoughts behind a character
in the show BASED ON WHAT HAT WAS ON THEIR HEAD IN EACH SCENE.

no writer EVER has any idea what the end video will look like but this video portrayed this info like
it was a sermon on the mount and definitive to the series.. how where the hat was and how it was worn
was a major part of every scene the character was in. ( and i bet the writer will look at that and think WTF but ill
take credit for such nonce in my writing)

you are alone, because you have to be crazy to put one tenth the importance into these movies many people do.
or maybe now in society you are crazy if you don't.

mando and go-goo might be bad ( and i might get assaulted for using those words) for the 55+ crowd
it might be good for 10 year olds
it might be great for the 18-25 yo
i expect its a mixed bag for left or right

but did it make more in the theater then season 3 raised disney+ profits?????
that is what is going to matter in the long run

and if we ever see another star wars movie in the theater again.

i hate to say it
but if you really want to know why you feel different about movies and other things

https://www.gameslearningsociety.org/wi … get-older/

gaming,sex ,new music and new movies/tv its much the same if not exactly
there is still drugs and booze left to live for

the prequels damaged star wars for me
the first words out of a jedi mouth in the first prequel
was about how being jedi they were going to use force (not the force)
for a treaty if needed.  like a couple of thugs.

after that the timeline was just messed up
20 years of galactic empire only?
it takes 20 years to just approve to build bridge today

how could jedi become a myth and old religion in 20 years?
no one knew anything about jedi in "a new hope".

that is just ridiculous.
galactic war with jedi and "new" storm troopers just forgotten
and a galactic empire founded like nazi just over night and 99%
of the population is just fine with it?
that is just ridiculous.

and it just kept getting worse.

prequel triology was mostly entertaining if just ridiculous.

the movies after that were only disappointing in my hope
they would be better.

the mandalorian season 1 gave some of that hope back after
then hard a very hard time keeping the quality.
book of boba fett was a joke, the kids and their bikes especially
rogue one was done well, but solo was poor in the best light.

skeleton crew would have been great with 18 year olds and not children
as it was it was for 8 year olds and not much more.

i will likely always be a die hard fan, but i might also give up.

Personal opinion on the previous 'back and forth':
It reads like the same arguement I see played out for Star Wars and Star Trek -

To which

  With every passing failed show I see more people waking up to the idea that they really would rather see a show just stop than to have it be destroyed and turned in to steaming piles of shit.  I'm not the only person that would rather watch The Expanse for a 10th rewatch than be forced to endure one hour of Star Trek Academy.

We all mourn for Farscape and Firefly but those shows have an enduring legacy because they weren't drained for every drop of blood the network vampires could suck out of them. Star Trek & Star Wars have become those empty corpses and still the vampires remain firmly attached at the jugular hoping for another drink.

I don't think any of this has anything to do with 'the year you were born' or trying to be agest about it basically saying 'well you old folk don't get what the young hip crowd likes.'
One can objectively watch shows from the various decades in sequence and watch the writing quality go down.  You can see a shift from 'story based' to 'character based' scripts resulting in shows being soap opera-esque now. You can point to dozens of elements set up in previous canon for a franchise that the new writers don't know, ignore, throw out.

It doesn't take much to look at an episode like Star Trek: TNG "Measure of a Man" where Data is put on trial over being machine or person.  A poinent episode about slavery with amazing dialog.  Then look at Star Fleet: Academy with dialog about "My space boo... Wanked spanked and ready to be a diplomat" - and defend that writing is just as good but speaks to a different generation: Hog wash!

And its the same in Star Wars.  Look at any of the early work, then look at whatever that space witches coven show was.  Look at Mandalorian the very topic of this thread: Gone from being a serious badass killer to a baby sitter because Disney saw the marketing money for the little green baby.  Ruin the show if it means short term gains in dolls.

I personally think most of that is due to a single concept being lost - That great I.P.s like these are grander than the people making them.  These shows are like the lands of world: We don't really own them, we're just here to be the stewards of them.  The people put in charge of Star Wars, Aliens, Star Trek need to remember that they are very very very lucky to be handed the TEMPORARY stewardship of these properties and during that time they get to play in real estate someone else cared for before them and will again after them.

It seems that for the last decade all we have is people using these franchises for their own agenda, to spread their own narrative in society, and find a way to make a fast buck.  Maybe that's the fault of hedge fund ownership and the shift to streaming were content QUALITY no longer matters over content MINUTES.  Plus the creation of a business environment where somehow a property like Disney can loose tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars and still get sold off to someone else at a profit.  Creative accounting has ruined the industry.

But I think its very wrong to point at the audience and blame them for being old enough to remember when the shows were good then call them the problem with "Parent just don't understand" remarks.  Its not that the older audience doesn't understand the younger.  Its that the younger audience doesn't understand what has been lost.  They won't sit through the original Alien, or Star Wars movies because of the age of special effect or because it goes more than 60 seconds without the scene changing location: And thus they don't get exposed to actual plot build up, good writing, surprised not telegraphed a mile away.  Sitting through Babylon-5 where the entire 5 season story arc was planned in advance, politcs as well as action, season 1 callbacks from season 4 because it was thought out - lost on today's audience.