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@merc, A bit confused by the weedwacker comment, not sure how that works, you like season 1 and 2 and want Wesley back, which means you want trek canon to remain canonical yet you don't like the TNG trekkies who follow it, doesn't that just mean you're a trekkie? lolz.

Beverly did mention Wesley in passing during a conversation with Picard, and that's it so far.  Wesley is such a conspicuous absentee, it's like the guest of honor isn't showing up for the award.  My hope, is that he swoops in, Captain of his own ship, and saves the day....and gets his own spin off. 

Season's 1 and 2 of Picard were a mess compared to season 3, the entire series/franchise is now finally back on track, as the core audience has been waiting for a post Dominion war tie in storyline since DS9!  It would've been a better show all around, if they set some of this up, like left crumbs of this current changeling storyline, in the first two seasons; also, avoided wasting time making all those spin-offs that've come since Voyager for that matter.

Now I'm kinda sad Chief O'Brien died in DS9 during that radiation leak/time event, because you could get the WHOLE band back together, lolz, if he was still alive (unless Q reset the timeline, not sure at this point)....at least Lower Decks paid tribute to him:

https://www.movie-trailers-blaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Star-Trek-tribute-Miles-OBrien.jpg

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paisley1 wrote:

@merc, A bit confused by the weedwacker comment, not sure how that works, you like season 1 and 2 and want Wesley back, which means you want trek canon to remain canonical yet you don't like the TNG trekkies who follow it, doesn't that just mean you're a trekkie? lolz.

A whimsey. season one was  more or less just Picard but we now have the full menagerie of TNG. I dont want Wesley back, some one mentioned him, just wonderng who else will turn up. Why call the show Picard if it is just the later adventures of TNG? TOG The old Generation, a better title. Seems to show a real lack of imagination, they started with an idea but then seemed to see it was a one trick pony. Typical of Amercan shows they keep on milking it while the fans love it, so had to come up with some thing else, and the only thing they could think of was TNG. There should only have been one season of Picard rather than this iteration of TNG. But $ talk I suppose while the viewing firgures are good ( or stewart dies)

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I couldn't even make it through the first 4 episodes of abomination that was Picard Season 1, if they have to get the old TNG band back together to make it watchable then I'm all for it. I'm really enjoying this.

I guess for merc, the old saying, if you don't like it, don't watch it applies?

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proteinnerd wrote:

I couldn't even make it through the first 4 episodes of abomination that was Picard Season 1, if they have to get the old TNG band back together to make it watchable then I'm all for it. I'm really enjoying this.

I guess for merc, the old saying, if you don't like it, don't watch it applies?

your comment makes me wonder if that is why things have panned out the way they have. The producers lost their nerve and went back to a winning formula. I rather like the old fogeys ensemble show, seeing them all old and wrinkled, the last hurrah! lol

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merc wrote:
proteinnerd wrote:

I couldn't even make it through the first 4 episodes of abomination that was Picard Season 1, if they have to get the old TNG band back together to make it watchable then I'm all for it. I'm really enjoying this.

I guess for merc, the old saying, if you don't like it, don't watch it applies?

your comment makes me wonder if that is why things have panned out the way they have. The producers lost their nerve and went back to a winning formula. I rather like the old fogeys ensemble show, seeing them all old and wrinkled, the last hurrah! lol

Merc, if I was to look up the word "troll" in a dictionary, would it just say "See Merc"?

2020.  Meh.

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graybags wrote:
merc wrote:
proteinnerd wrote:

I couldn't even make it through the first 4 episodes of abomination that was Picard Season 1, if they have to get the old TNG band back together to make it watchable then I'm all for it. I'm really enjoying this.

I guess for merc, the old saying, if you don't like it, don't watch it applies?

your comment makes me wonder if that is why things have panned out the way they have. The producers lost their nerve and went back to a winning formula. I rather like the old fogeys ensemble show, seeing them all old and wrinkled, the last hurrah! lol

Merc, if I was to look up the word "troll" in a dictionary, would it just say "See Merc"?

I am not a being from Nordic folklore

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lol graybags

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I'm finding it very good. I don't see Wesley coming back, I knew from trailers for S3 and stuff I've read about the one's who have finally arrived but that's it

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davejo90 wrote:

I'm finding it very good. I don't see Wesley coming back, I knew from trailers for S3 and stuff I've read about the one's who have finally arrived but that's it

I don't get the "Is Wesley coming back?" thing.  Did nobody season the final episode of season 2???

2020.  Meh.

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Spoiler

loved ep 6. Can someone please enlighten me as to why James T Kirk was on Daystrom?. What am I missing here?

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graybags wrote:
davejo90 wrote:

I'm finding it very good. I don't see Wesley coming back, I knew from trailers for S3 and stuff I've read about the one's who have finally arrived but that's it

I don't get the "Is Wesley coming back?" thing.  Did nobody season the final episode of season 2???

First, I don't know how to 'season a final episode', like which spices to use and such, second, it's because of Wesley's appearance in the final episode of season 2 and the central plot involving Beverly Crusher (his mom) in season 3, that he's such a conspicuous absentee, as we learned in season 2 Wesley's become a traveller of space and time and watching and waiting protecting everything, which demands unpacking, like, what the hell has he been up to since TNG, and what'll his reaction to his half brother be?  They're also meticulously putting the old TNG band back together, and Wesley's the last one:

https://pop-verse.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/star-trek-the-next-generation-cast-photo-107178-e1436017967343-620x330.jpg

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paisley1 wrote:
graybags wrote:
davejo90 wrote:

I'm finding it very good. I don't see Wesley coming back, I knew from trailers for S3 and stuff I've read about the one's who have finally arrived but that's it

I don't get the "Is Wesley coming back?" thing.  Did nobody season the final episode of season 2???

First, I don't know how to 'season a final episode', like which spices to use

Whoops, replace the first "season" with the word "see".  Wesley is there in season 2.  Oh, and I'd probably just use a little salt and pepper.

2020.  Meh.

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paisley1 wrote:

First, I don't know how to 'season a final episode'

It's a common knowledge:

https://media.tenor.com/HpbQmYr2CpwAAAAC/salty-salt-bae.gif

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g371 wrote:
paisley1 wrote:

First, I don't know how to 'season a final episode'

It's a common knowledge:

https://media.tenor.com/HpbQmYr2CpwAAAAC/salty-salt-bae.gif

Ha!  I like it.

2020.  Meh.

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We're all so cheeky, lolz. big_smile

3x7 we find out some rather disturbing info about Starfleet with the Changelings, necessary exposition, but a rather predictable and slow episode for me. Meh.

Spoiler

Oh how Professor Xavier of them to give Jack the ability to read peoples minds, lolz! roll

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Another good episode.  For me 3x8 would have been a good series-ender, just ignore the whole "red door" thing and I'd be happy if that was that.

But another two episodes?  Hmmm.

2020.  Meh.

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graybags wrote:

Another good episode.  For me 3x8 would have been a good series-ender, just ignore the whole "red door" thing and I'd be happy if that was that.

But another two episodes?  Hmmm.

save the Federation in 2 hours? a tall order

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merc wrote:
graybags wrote:

Another good episode.  For me 3x8 would have been a good series-ender, just ignore the whole "red door" thing and I'd be happy if that was that.

But another two episodes?  Hmmm.

save the Federation in 2 hours? a tall order

Shouldn't be a problem now that the team is back together. 3x8, so good.

Spoiler

Data:  "Unwanted guests and monologuing protoplasms, I'm initiating an immediate shift change." lol That was hilarious, so good. wink

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3x9. Wow... Things escalated in interesting ways!

And they really cranked up the retro vibes in the last minutes... Loved it more than I thought I would! smile <3

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see the title of the last eps "The Last Generation" This has turned into a swan song series for the old fooggies

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Yea, if I wanted to watch "Star Trek: The Geriatrics" I would have.
This is just getting silly

DRM "manages access" in the same way that Prison "manages freedom".
http://xkcd.com/488/

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one point. what happened to Season 2 and Agnes becoming the Borg queen and joining the Federation and the super transport conduit? Now it seems the Borg are bad again? what am I missing? This degree of inconsistancy if true is shameful! Proves my point they gave up on the original title "Picard" & lost their nerve?

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3x9, the nostalgic goosebumps episode.  Great music!  I've missed Data so much, finally some comic relief. 

@merc, exactly what I was saying, thank you! 

Like what the crap happened to Agnes and our truce with the Borg?  What's with the whole "we haven't had contact with the Borg for over 10 years" crap?  It was five minutes ago we were all singing Kumbaya, not 10 years.  Did Q mess with history?  Do they not remember?  How are they going to explain this one away? 

Picard has turned into TNG, which has turned into TNG:RED like that movie RED, Retired Extremely Dangerous.  Universe beware:  Watch out for senile lunatics on board a relic in the Delta quadrant. 
"Data we're going the wrong way!" 
"Boldly go where no one..." 
"Not today, turn the ship around!"

3x9 ending: Everyone's waxing nostalgic.
3x10 intro: Everyone's fast asleep.

wink

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It's all explained in season 2, so it might be a good opportunity to go back and re-watch.

The Borg encountered in season 3, episode 9 are the absolute original Borg that were completely unaffected by the events of season 2 with Agnes and 1 single Borg queen who went back in time with Picard and co.  Those original Borg have been waiting in the (mostly) Delta quadrant, recovering from the destruction caused by Janeway and the events leading to the USS Voyager's final triumphant return home.

That single queen who travelled back in time with Picard and co, joined together with Agnes during season 2 to form a new kind of collective, which I believe was all about giving people a choice rather than the aggressive practices of the original Borg.

The Agnes/Queen and that new collective flew off into space on the Confederation/CSS version of the La Sirena, and as far as we know kept itself away from the original Borg over the centuries between the events surrounding the 21st Century launch of the Europa mission and the start of the 25th Century, until they revealed themselves to Picard on the Stargazer and swore to stand by and monitor a potential threat (as described in the season 2 finale).

It's possible that Agnes/Queen and her new collective might come to help Picard liberate Starfleet from the original Borg who have taken it over, alongside the Changelings.

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Frimlin wrote:

It's all explained in season 2, so it might be a good opportunity to go back and re-watch.

The Borg encountered in season 3, episode 9 are the absolute original Borg that were completely unaffected by the events of season 2 with Agnes and 1 single Borg queen who went back in time with Picard and co.  Those original Borg have been waiting in the (mostly) Delta quadrant, recovering from the destruction caused by Janeway and the events leading to the USS Voyager's final triumphant return home.

That single queen who travelled back in time with Picard and co, joined together with Agnes during season 2 to form a new kind of collective, which I believe was all about giving people a choice rather than the aggressive practices of the original Borg.

The Agnes/Queen and that new collective flew off into space on the Confederation/CSS version of the La Sirena, and as far as we know kept itself away from the original Borg over the centuries between the events surrounding the 21st Century launch of the Europa mission and the start of the 25th Century, until they revealed themselves to Picard on the Stargazer and swore to stand by and monitor a potential threat (as described in the season 2 finale).


It's possible that Agnes/Queen and her new collective might come to help Picard liberate Starfleet from the original Borg who have taken it over, alongside the Changelings.



So there is more than one queen?  seems a contradiction in terms. The original queen we all knew from janeway and the films is the one that Agnes joined with? We will see what happens in eps 10. The only reason to think you may be right is that in eps 9 the cameras delliberately did not show the Borg queens  face. We will see. I hope  you are right. But it seems just one eps to sort it all out seems slim.