Topic: Chernobyl

Chernobyl

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Chernobyl dramatizes "the true story of one of the worst man-made catastrophes in history and tells of the brave men and women who sacrificed themselves to save Europe from unimaginable disaster. The miniseries focuses on the heartbreaking scope of the nuclear plant disaster that occurred in Soviet Ukraine in April 1986, revealing how and why it happened and telling the shocking, remarkable stories of the heroes who fought and fell."

I just.... I can't deal with this show. Haunting. Suffocating. Makes my skin crawl. I haven't been this disturbed by a tv show since The Vietnam War doc. It's absolutelly brilliant, don't get me wrong, but after watching two episodes back to back I just feel emotionally drained.

I need a comedy after this. Or ten.

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Orlando wrote:

Makes my skin crawl. I haven't been this disturbed by a tv show since The Vietnam War doc. It's absolutelly brilliant, don't get me wrong, but after watching two episodes back to back I just feel emotionally drained.

Interesting... I already had planned to watch it some day soon, the trailer is really, really good (= believable).

Orlando wrote:

I need a comedy after this. Or ten.

big_smile

3 (edited by g371 2019-05-14 16:37:59)

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Will check out a single episode, but already now I think, imo, no American ever will be able to dramatize Chernobyl - and it must be like half a comedy.

From Wiki:

Evacuation began long before the accident was publicly acknowledged by the Soviet Union. In the morning of 28 April, radiation levels set off alarms at the Forsmark Nuclear Power Plant in Sweden, over 1,000 kilometres (620 mi) from the Chernobyl Plant. Workers at Forsmark reported the case to the Swedish Radiation Safety Authority, which determined that the radiation had originated elsewhere. That day, the Swedish government contacted the Soviet government to inquire about whether there had been a nuclear accident in the Soviet Union. The Soviet government initially denied it, and it was only after the Swedish government suggested they were about to file an official alert with the IAEA, that the Soviet government admitted an accident took place at Chernobyl. At first, the Soviets only conceded that a minor accident had occurred, but once they began evacuating over 100,000 people, the full scale of the situation was realized by the global community.

Americans simply have no way how to depict that level of retardation that was in USSR smile

All I remember from that time - yeah, something happened, yeah somebody died, let's move on, nobody cares. Also now the people who must worry about the Russian nukes the most, imo, are Russians themselves big_smile

4 (edited by g371 2019-05-14 16:58:36)

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Started to watch E01.

About the dosimeters, haha

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"The good ones are locked in the safe."

Of course they are, because otherwise they would be stolen long ago big_smile

Environment, rooms etc. very precise - down to the door handles, ashtray and utensils. It looked exactly that crappy.

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Just watched E01. Wow! Production quality is on par with Game of Thrones IMHO (less dragons and a different kind of special effects though). Very realistic-looking buildings and dreariness everywhere.

I hardly felt the "suffocating" that Orlando reported, I more admired the skilled acting, filming and editing.

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Those guys looking directly into the core... damn!

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Well, it's just that when I watch stuff about real life events, I get way more anxious. I can watch gore in an action horror whatever and not be fazed by it, but to see the firefighters and plant personel dying and suffering from radiation, along with how the higher up's wanted to conceal everything.... It just gets me man.

Like ep2

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How they lost contact with the helicopter, and it just smashed into pieces in the air and collapsed. My fucking skin crawled like never in my life.

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And for anyone who's interested, here's an offical podcast about the show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUeHPCYtWYQ

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8 (edited by g371 2019-05-14 20:35:35)

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Finished e1 & e2, it's good. Amazing attention to details, I spotted just a few minor details that could not be USSR in 80ies - like LED street lamp and "comrade".

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ep1

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Orlando wrote:

ep1

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https://i.imgur.com/VaFHoNo.png

I would not call it delusional, just a master of sweeping under the carpet and avoiding the responsibility - whole "superpower" was full of such man. That's what you get when you kill off the intelligent people and staff your government based on commies ass kissing capabilities. That shoe factory guy was a good example.

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Of course, it's just a funny image I liked. big_smile

Also, they talked about the "comrade" thing on the podcast - initially they didn't have much of that in the script as it felt over satirical, but when consulted with former USSR residents, they told the creators that indeed people used "comrade" on a daily basis.

I'm too young to know this shit, but I can see how much they want to keep it real, so if they say that's how it was, that's how it was.

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12 (edited by g371 2019-05-15 09:46:49)

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I'm pretty sure that comrade thing died ages before late 80ies, instead they used and still use that strange official form of addressing somebody where they say father's name. Comrade would make sense like in some super official event, commies congress or something like that. Also when that old retard commie was citing Lenin, he referred to him as "Vladimir I. Lenin" - that's what Americans do, Russians always say full name "Vladimir Ilyich Lenin". And that "Ilyich" is that reference to the father Ilya Ulyanov.

In crisis situation, imo, there would be zero "comrade" and like cyka, blyat, nahuj after every 3rd word big_smile

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Well, I personally don't know enough to argue about it. Anyway, it didn't really bother me that much tbh.

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Yeah, it's nothing, we are just splitting hairs, because it depicts what we saw. Btw, a good part of this is filmed in Lithuania.

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Orlando wrote:

Well, it's just that when I watch stuff about real life events, I get way more anxious. I can watch gore in an action horror whatever and not be fazed by it, but to see the firefighters and plant personel dying and suffering from radiation, along with how the higher up's wanted to conceal everything.... It just gets me man.

But... but... it's not real! wink I guess I watch scenes like that more from an observer position these days... it was different many years ago when I watched "The Day After", that was intense! (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085404/ "The effects of a devastating nuclear holocaust on small-town residents" - sounds familiar? cool )


g371 wrote:

I'm pretty sure that comrade thing died ages before late 80ies, instead they used and still use that strange official form of addressing somebody where they say father's name.

Yeah, that father's name thing, it's really big in some countries... https://www.bellingcat.com/ was able to use that to catch some Russians. Still, not many people (in other countries) know about that, so using "comrade" felt really authentic to me.


g371 wrote:

Btw, a good part of this is filmed in Lithuania.

Oh, cool, didn't know that.

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lighton wrote:

Oh, cool, didn't know that.

Reactor scenes are from Ignalina, other USSR made nuclear power plant. Good that they shut it down, before I could measure the radioactivity of the dust outside my window big_smile

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignalina_ … ower_Plant

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g371 wrote:
lighton wrote:

Oh, cool, didn't know that.

Reactor scenes are from Ignalina, other USSR made nuclear power plant. Good that they shut it down, before I could measure the radioactivity of the dust outside my window big_smile

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignalina_ … ower_Plant


So you are saying that if someone over there says that a woman is glowing that doesnt necessarly mean that she is pregnant? wink

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HomerS wrote:

So you are saying that if someone over there says that a woman is glowing that doesnt necessarly mean that she is pregnant? wink

Where does it mean that she is pregnant? big_smile

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lighton wrote:
HomerS wrote:

So you are saying that if someone over there says that a woman is glowing that doesnt necessarly mean that she is pregnant? wink

Where does it mean that she is pregnant? big_smile

The "pregnancy glow" ya know big_smile

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Just checked Chernobyl at https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7366338/
Daaamn, 9.6/10 with 20870 votes! yikes yikes

Even if you assume that it will go down a little bit after the first excitement wears off, this is still very, very good. For comparison:

The Wire https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0306414/ - 9.3/10
Band of Brothers https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0185906/ - 9.5/10

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Not surprising, there are like 100 million potential voters. These 0.4 probably Putin and family big_smile