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1 Topic by scorpius074 2017-08-04 02:16:32 (edited by scorpius074 2017-08-04 04:23:04)
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Legion introduces the story of David Haller: Since he was a teenager, David has struggled with mental illness. Diagnosed as schizophrenic, David has been in and out of psychiatric hospitals for years. But after a strange encounter with a fellow patient, he's confronted with the possibility that the voices he hears and the visions he sees might be real. He's based on the Marvel comics character Legion, the son of X-Men founder Charles Xavier (played by Patrick Stewart and James McAvoy in the films), first introduced in 1985. Check it out here I just started watching this and was surprised not to see a topic about it here in the forums. I've seen a lot; watched tons of movies and television shows in my short lifetime, but man I haven't seen anything quite like this before. This show is visually spectacular, super creepy, absolutely mind-blowing, and very, very weird. I suppose this kind of craziness doesn't appeal to everyone, but I love it. I feel like I'm watching someone's LSD-induced hallucination where time isn't linear and reality bends into the craziest of shapes and forms lol. It's confusing, messy, wild, colorful and absolutely awesome. This show manages to keep me on the edge of my seat even when there's nothing happening. And when there is something going on, most of the time it doesn't really make any sense, but somehow that's not a bad thing. I've found that the best way to approach Legion is by not trying to make sense of it because there rarely is any. My approach is simple - just sit back, relax and watch the insane spectacle unfold with wide-eyed wonder. I'm only three episodes in and I'm already sold. 
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Agree, as do a lot of others because it was renewed.
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It may seem kind of confusing and strange but it comes together very well at the end.
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Yeah it did come together real well towards the end, superb from beginning to end. 5 stars in my book! The second season can't get here soon enough for me, and I'm also looking forward to finally seeing Amahl Farouk, who willl be played by Saïd Taghmaoui. FX describes Farouk as "a villain with a thousand faces…" They also confirmed that season two will premiere sometime in early 2018; this time with a 10-episode order. As for David's biological father, here's an interesting take from the showrunners on Den of Geek... As for the big question about David's biological father, well, "I think that’s something we’re definitely going to approach,” Hawley said. “It’s a creative conversation, but it’s also a sort of corporate conversation, you know, on some level, in terms of the movie studio and their relationship to the X-Men and the characters they want in the movies and want to protect potentially. And were we to want to have Professor X on the show, or even Patrick Stewart on the show, James McAvoy or one of those actors, is a conversation both with the actor and with the studio. So, I don’t know, I haven’t really dived into that quandary yet, but certainly I need to start thinking about it.”
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scorpius074 wrote:Yeah it did come together real well towards the end, superb from beginning to end. 5 stars in my book! The second season can't get here soon enough for me, and I'm also looking forward to finally seeing Amahl Farouk, who willl be played by Saïd Taghmaoui. FX describes Farouk as "a villain with a thousand faces…" They also confirmed that season two will premiere sometime in early 2018; this time with a 10-episode order. As for David's biological father, here's an interesting take from the showrunners on Den of Geek... As for the big question about David's biological father, well, "I think that’s something we’re definitely going to approach,” Hawley said. “It’s a creative conversation, but it’s also a sort of corporate conversation, you know, on some level, in terms of the movie studio and their relationship to the X-Men and the characters they want in the movies and want to protect potentially. And were we to want to have Professor X on the show, or even Patrick Stewart on the show, James McAvoy or one of those actors, is a conversation both with the actor and with the studio. So, I don’t know, I haven’t really dived into that quandary yet, but certainly I need to start thinking about it.”
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It is a strange one. Overall a good show.
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(Cross-reply, see https://forum.next-episode.net/viewtopi … 72#p168672) mrverene wrote:I had typed out a bit about how I hated Legion more than anything in recent memory but then deleted so as not to derail the new MCU thread that had to be made because of the derailed Wandavision thread
https://next-episode.net/legion is one of the best shows ever, maybe it just wasn't for you? Or it resonated with something in you that you've not confronted yet ("I hated Legion more than anything in recent memory"), making it the perfect show for you? 
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I found it to be a pretentious student film with a comic book skin. It was like a whole series made from the tiresome episode of seemingly every show where the lead is stuck in their own mind or hallucinating dead characters, etc. Every bad Hollywood trope meant to signify drug use or mental illness or shortcut to 'character development' by having the character confront themselves is on full display here. To be fair, the source material was pretty much all awful as well. I found it so excruciating and pretentious that it made me actually wonder whether I'd missed something in liking Fargo so much. I did like the cast and what they did with applying dream logic to the time setting, making it fluid and indeterminate through collected anachronisms, though.
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Wow, you really didn't like it... Maybe it's a love it or hate it thing.  There are so many things I love about the show... since you seem to have given up watching prematurely, you'll have missed ...
▼Spoiler ...the Time Eaters/ Time Demons in the last season. Those alone (with the visual and sound effects used and their impact on the story) were done so, so well! <3
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I didn't give up, watched the whole thing.
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mrverene wrote:I didn't give up, watched the whole thing.
Whaaaat? How can you watch so many episodes of something you don't really seem to enjoy?
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Compulsion's the reason I watch half of what I watch
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lighton wrote:How can you watch so many episodes of something you don't really seem to enjoy?
Some of us are flawed that way, when you start something - it must be finished even if one hates it.
...where did I put that rat's ass I could give?
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Daemonius wrote:lighton wrote:How can you watch so many episodes of something you don't really seem to enjoy?
Some of us are flawed that way, when you start something - it must be finished even if one hates it.
+1 It's very rare that I drop a show once I've invested a fair bit of time in it. I think I always hope that I will suddenly start to like it. I did that with Legion, watched the whole first season and just thought no, I won't bother with the next. I thought it tried to be far too clever, kind of like what Hannibal was like - which I also dropped.
2020. Meh.
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Daemonius wrote:lighton wrote:How can you watch so many episodes of something you don't really seem to enjoy?
Some of us are flawed that way, when you start something - it must be finished even if one hates it.
Hehe... I used to do it like that when it came to at least finishing a season, but I'm more ruthless these days.
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lighton wrote:Daemonius wrote:lighton wrote:How can you watch so many episodes of something you don't really seem to enjoy?
Some of us are flawed that way, when you start something - it must be finished even if one hates it.
Hehe... I used to do it like that when it came to at least finishing a season, but I'm more ruthless these days.
Ruthless? lol Not true. Very rarely I finish a show I completely don't like, if I'm still watching there's usually something in particular that keeps me watching, even if it's at the bottom of the list. 'Hate viewing' is liking some tiny aspect of the show but hating the rest of it and complaining about everything which sometimes turns into 'Ironic Viewing' or 'Guilty Pleasure Viewing'.  This would be a good discussion topic. I watched season 1 of Legion and liked the creative sets, atmosphere, cinematography, the psychological thriller bent, and Jemaine, but it went too horror for me and just felt like unhealthy viewing, so I have no desire to watch more.
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paisley1 wrote:Very rarely I finish a show I completely don't like, if I'm still watching there's usually something in particular that keeps me watching, even if it's at the bottom of the list. 'Hate viewing' is liking some tiny aspect of the show but hating the rest of it and complaining about everything which sometimes turns into 'Ironic Viewing' or 'Guilty Pleasure Viewing'. This would be a good discussion topic. I watched season 1 of Legion and liked the creative sets, atmosphere, cinematography, the psychological thriller bent, and Jemaine, but it went too horror for me and just felt like unhealthy viewing, so I have no desire to watch more.
Haha... I value my time too much for 'Hate Viewing' and 'Ironic Viewing', but I can understand 'Guilty Pleasure Viewing'. True, Legion went dark at times, but then it felt cathartic to come out at the other side of it.
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