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g371 wrote:
some_one wrote:

a show about the 80s

You are not wrong. But here is more 80ies fears: cold war stuff, nuclear arms race, deindustrialization/factories shut down, unemployment, union busting, crack cocaine epidemic, war on drugs, mass incarceration, random proxy wars, refugees crisis, mental health stigma etc. etc., but let's do gays. Why? Because.

I would appreciate an answer to that “why?” Because as you said, there were so many other issues they could have addressed if it was purely because it’s an “80s show”. Which I woke I brought it up in the “woke” thread.

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g371 wrote:

You are not wrong. But here is more 80ies fears: cold war stuff, nuclear arms race, deindustrialization/factories shut down, unemployment, union busting, crack cocaine epidemic, war on drugs, mass incarceration, random proxy wars, refugees crisis, mental health stigma etc. etc., but let's do gays. Why? Because.

Except, it's not a show about the 80s in general, but specifically the 80s in small towns, from the perspective of children. They already did manage to cram in the cold war, and it just barely worked. Something that is very personal to individual people is a lot easier to do here, and there's very little reason not to do it, other than deliberately wanting to ignore it. An absence would be just as noticable as a presence here.


nightcrow wrote:

I would appreciate an answer to that “why?”

And that's basically it. To completely ignore it would be dismissive of those people whose memories of that time are strongly colored by it, and it makes for an interesting enough plot point that meshes well with the kind of threat the main villain poses. There is simply no reason not to do it. So, your answer is, unfortunately, "Why not?".

Something for the other thread: Why does it bother you so much, or at all? Leaving rationalizations aside (which is difficult), can you actually remember when you started having a strong opinion about it?

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TeaAndApathy wrote:

Any speculation about who will survive and who will die?

I think Kali will die, maybe while trying to make El do what she was convinced they needed to do.
I think El will have her powers stripped, but survive.
Hopper may die in a tearful scene.
Someone may die saving Holly. Not sure who though. Maybe Kali? Maybe Will? That would be tragic though and Winona's character (name?) would never recover from it.

Probably not too many (non-military) deaths? It's just not been that kinda show... Maybe Kali, yeah. Probably self-sacrifice. Doing Hopper again would be kind of pointless. We'll also have to find out what was in that briefcase down in the mine, as that's probably what originally caused everything else to begin with. That would have been in the 50s/60s, right? Aliens, maybe? (Well, more aliens, I guess...)

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Oh, yeaaaah...the briefcase. Forgot about that.

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They didn't explain How that rock in the briefcase came to be? I am guessing there will be a prequel series.

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some_one wrote:

Something that is very personal to individual people

There are 500+ named phobias, all very personal (and also way less boring). Here a list of common ones children have: Nyctophobia, Cynophobia, Astraphobia, Masklophobia, Trypanophobia, Dentophobia, Achluophobia, Separation Anxiety,  Social Anxiety, Acrophobia, Emetophobia, Arachnophobia, Claustrophobia, Glossophobia, Thanatophobia, Nosophobia, School Phobia, Atychiphobia.

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the last season aired from what i read this season was it for the series smile

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g371 wrote:

There are 500+ named phobias, all very personal (and also way less boring). Here a list of common ones children have: Nyctophobia, Cynophobia, Astraphobia, Masklophobia, Trypanophobia, Dentophobia, Achluophobia, Separation Anxiety,  Social Anxiety, Acrophobia, Emetophobia, Arachnophobia, Claustrophobia, Glossophobia, Thanatophobia, Nosophobia, School Phobia, Atychiphobia.

Disregarding the number of people these affect, as well as the fact that you seem to be equating homosexuality to a psychological disorder, which everyone actually studying the matter stopped doing decades ago: I can only repeat myself here. None of those were particularly relevant to the setting, because whether you have claustrophobia right now or while growing up in a small american town in the 80s does not make a lot of difference. For being gay, it does, and for many people, it did. That's why it's there.


larexap589 wrote:

They didn't explain How that rock in the briefcase came to be? I am guessing there will be a prequel series.

They could have gone more into detail, yeah, but the basics were implied:

Spoiler

The spider thing created it. It's like a seed or spore. Apparently that's how it spreads its influence. And, somehow, it managed to get it to Earth, and whatever group the dead guy belonged to became aware of it.

Since they also said that humans at least stabilized, if not outright created that wormhole, we don't really know which side made contact first, but we don't really have to, because it's not that kind of story.


It's possible that some executive at some studio will try to make a prequel out of it, but I doubt that:

  • the show was mostly about the actual story and characters, it didn't create much of a world to play with here, even borrowing most of the names for things from D&D

  • it was created during the 80s nostalgia wave 10 years ago; that has mostly ended and moved on to the 90s

  • such a prequel would have to be quite different thematically from the actual show, which is from the perspective of kids, making it difficult to predict as an investment

  • Netflix has a decent track record with leaving even successful things one-and-done, and the few spinoffs they do make tend to be standalone movies or stuff like that; we'd probably get one of those at most.

They'll probably just buy whatever the Duffer brothers want to do next and see how that goes.

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I wonder if the rock is something they'll address in the animated series. It might get more people to watch it.

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TeaAndApathy wrote:

I wonder if the rock is something they'll address in the animated series. It might get more people to watch it.

Yeah seems I was wrong there. "Whatever the Duffer brothers want to do next" appears to be spinoffs. So... maybe. Probably.

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So I just read there's to be a live action spin-off. It's still in concept and vague because they're concentrating on the feature film for Paramount, but they've said they are not going the "next gen" route.
Much as I enjoyed the series, I kind of wish they'd wrap it up and let it go. It just feels like they're milking it for every last drop of money now.