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so once infected they life forever?
how cool. where can i sign up`?
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I just love how everyone is always whining on this forum. I think it was a decent episode, and why shouldnt they be looking for the girl? she is a part of there group and the fact that she is a kid drives them even more to search for her, people arent usually that cold that they can just leave a child behind.
GodZionu wrote:i also find it odd that those zombies do not starve to death
They do not need human flesh to stay undead, but they have an unlimited hunger because of some brain thingy. That at least is from what I know.
we are talking about flesh eating zombies, is it so hard to belive that they dont need food to stay undead, they dont bleed to death so obviously there bodys dont work as normal humans.
32 2011-10-18 18:31:25 (edited by xrnzaaas 2011-10-18 18:34:39)
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Well, the show got little better than what I remember from last year, but I still wouldn't call it good. A solid zombie action with some cheap drama, flawed writing and sometimes awful acting (actor playing Rick still sucks big time). The only thing which is perfect is the zombie make-up.
Btw, how stupid can you be to hide under the cars instead of just quickly leaving the freeway and hiding in the woods? Especially since the zombies can smell you (oh, wait, how didn't they smell them?).
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disappointing to say the least....
i have a feeling they are going to flip the rules that they set out in series 1 constantly this season - not good
it is a drama so i see that sometimes things happen to further the story but the way that it is done either insults the audience or works
not smelling the humans (guts to mask smell in season 1)
all of a sudden 2 walking dead can run at a pace to keep up with a 12 year old??
same walking dead all of a sudden can only walk again when confronted by rick.....
dead humans just sitting in cars with no sign of being killed by anything
no sign of any reason for all the vehicles to have just stopped - totally clear road up to that point...
really hope that it picks up but i fear not
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Here is an idea, if you dont like the show, stop watching, that way you haven't wasted the time it takes to watch it and then the extra 10 minutes to come to the forum and complain about it.
It's a tv show about zombies...I really think a lot of you need to adjust your expectations accordingly or you are just going to keep being disappointed.
35 2011-10-19 07:32:16 (edited by Hr. Ulottuvuus 2011-10-19 07:39:56)
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disappointing to say the least....
i have a feeling they are going to flip the rules that they set out in series 1 constantly this season - not good
it is a drama so i see that sometimes things happen to further the story but the way that it is done either insults the audience or worksnot smelling the humans (guts to mask smell in season 1)
all of a sudden 2 walking dead can run at a pace to keep up with a 12 year old??
same walking dead all of a sudden can only walk again when confronted by rick.....
dead humans just sitting in cars with no sign of being killed by anything
no sign of any reason for all the vehicles to have just stopped - totally clear road up to that point...really hope that it picks up but i fear not
all i pondered was the smelling thing, but then again the zombies didn't smell them inside the house in season 1 (ep 1)...
and the 2 walkers that couldn't keep up with the girl, i think that was great homage to the oldies horror flicks (not matter how fast you run, Jason will walk faster and catch you)
and all i saw was that one guy in the cars with no signs of being violently killed - it didn't occur to you that maybe he starved to death, or something like that, there is like a thousand ways to die other than being eaten by zombies.
and for the vehicles - all you need is one bad driver and you get crash like that. those things even happen in the real world, without zombies hurdling about...
what bothered me was the black guy who managed to almost cut his arm off with a car door, that was something spectacularly wierd...
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Here is an idea, if you dont like the show, stop watching, that way you haven't wasted the time it takes to watch it and then the extra 10 minutes to come to the forum and complain about it.
How about no.
It's a tv show about zombies...I really think a lot of you need to adjust your expectations accordingly or you are just going to keep being disappointed.
Just because it's about zombies doesn't mean, that plot/logical holes can be everywhere.
Look at a british miniseries Dead Set, very well written and directed, it stays with it's own set of rules and can even be scary. So it IS possible to create a zombie show that feels authentic and dramatic.
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proteinnerd wrote:Here is an idea, if you dont like the show, stop watching, that way you haven't wasted the time it takes to watch it and then the extra 10 minutes to come to the forum and complain about it.
How about no.
proteinnerd wrote:It's a tv show about zombies...I really think a lot of you need to adjust your expectations accordingly or you are just going to keep being disappointed.
Just because it's about zombies doesn't mean, that plot/logical holes can be everywhere.
Look at a british miniseries Dead Set, very well written and directed, it stays with it's own set of rules and can even be scary. So it IS possible to create a zombie show that feels authentic and dramatic.
or maybe your finding plot hoes, because you want to find plot holes....
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Yes indeed. I'd recommend you all take a good look at South Park's 15x07 "You're Getting Old" and the episode after that. It's about people focussing on how everything now looks like shit, and more stuff seems like shit that way.
The more you hate, the less you'll love.
Right, I'm 22 years old, I love anything involving zombies and just because I don't enjoy bad writing, I'm getting old. I'm... I'm not even going there, man.
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proteinnerd wrote:It's a tv show about zombies...I really think a lot of you need to adjust your expectations accordingly or you are just going to keep being disappointed.
Just because it's about zombies doesn't mean, that plot/logical holes can be everywhere.
Look at a british miniseries Dead Set, very well written and directed, it stays with it's own set of rules and can even be scary. So it IS possible to create a zombie show that feels authentic and dramatic.
I was about to write something similiar, but now I can add only +1.
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For some reason people have hard time seeing the difference between bashing and criticizing. Half of the fun of watching shows is criticizing and analyzing the show after watching it. Stuff like what I would personally change, guessing where the series is going, ratings, cancellations are all what makes watching tv-shows different from watching movies. All that doesn't mean that I can't enjoy the show while watching it.
And on the show, I agree on some points on the critique (yes the drama is a bit cheap) but as monsieur Dimension already pointed out, some of the plot holes mentioned are not plot holes at all (sure the zombies can smell humans, but how well was never pointed out.). I feel a bit biased to conclude any review on the show as I'm too willing to cut it way too much slack as long as we can see cool zombie death scenes.
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what bothered me was the black guy who managed to almost cut his arm off with a car door, that was something spectacularly wierd...
Me too, i was like wtf how could you ever do that? xD
It was so quick i didn't even see what happend to him, what i saw was he fell on a car and then boom fountain of blood pouring from his arm
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Hr. Ulottuvuus wrote:what bothered me was the black guy who managed to almost cut his arm off with a car door, that was something spectacularly wierd...
Me too, i was like wtf how could you ever do that? xD
It was so quick i didn't even see what happend to him, what i saw was he fell on a car and then boom fountain of blood pouring from his arm
And the he used a medpack, which restored 80 health points.
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Orlando wrote:proteinnerd wrote:It's a tv show about zombies...I really think a lot of you need to adjust your expectations accordingly or you are just going to keep being disappointed.
Just because it's about zombies doesn't mean, that plot/logical holes can be everywhere.
Look at a british miniseries Dead Set, very well written and directed, it stays with it's own set of rules and can even be scary. So it IS possible to create a zombie show that feels authentic and dramatic.
I was about to write something similiar, but now I can add only +1.
Dead set was enjoyable but I wouldn't say it was necessarily any better then walking dead. It would have been MUCH easier to write/shoot as it really only took place in a very small area (the big brother house).....not wondering around a post apocalyptic world. It only lasted 3 or 4 episodes and pretty much all of the first one didn't have zombies in it anyway....it's not a "fair" comparison.
Apart from that, give me a few examples of a zombie genre that has no plot holes...I'm not saying it shouldn't be possible, I'm saying stop expecting Oscar winning writing/direction/acting from a zombie tv series....it's just not going to happen, so why keep focusing on the negative , enjoy it for what it is.....fun.
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Hr. Ulottuvuus wrote:what bothered me was the black guy who managed to almost cut his arm off with a car door, that was something spectacularly wierd...
Me too, i was like wtf how could you ever do that? xD
It was so quick i didn't even see what happend to him, what i saw was he fell on a car and then boom fountain of blood pouring from his arm
this I can agree on, but i have seen this happen in so many movies too, they just stumble a little and the whole freaking arm is cut open on a car door...
But if you analyse movies in the same catagory as this show, you will find a lot of the things in most movies too that people are complaining about here. It is a TV show after all, they dont have unlimeted time to make everything perfect. And I dont think this episode was really bad so cut it some slack maybe?
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It is a TV show after all, they dont have unlimeted time to make everything perfect.
You can, if you want to. Although network shows have a higher level of tolerance to these kind of things (although Pan Am is quite amazing with costumes and design in that regard, while Fringe's writing is brilliant), cabel shows that I watch are maybe not perfect (although exceptions are on the same channel, Mad Men's production value and writing is like the floor of TWD's roof, same is for Breaking Bad, Rubicon †), they are at least throught through, with nice or even better acting and are not treating me like a couch potato, examples are Sons of Anarchy, Boardwalk Empire, Justified, Louie, Treme. And when I see zombies that look around, jump over fences, sprint and use bricks to crush glass, then yes, I feel like I'm treated like an idiot.
I'm REALLY not trying to force myself to not like the way this show is going, but I can't be blind when someone is swinging a banana before my face.
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I haven't read the comics...but I'm curious whether many of the scenes are taken from the comicbooks...
...I have a bit of a background with comics...and it is really common(especially with Image comics and their affiliates) that scenes are written more or less because the artist wants to draw something...so it's possible that the comicbook had a scene with a bunch of stopped cars on a freeway(I found the title image of S01 stupid for the same reason...thousands of cars stopped on one side of the highway, looking like many of them had crashed and been decomposing for ages(even though the apocalypse only started like a couple of months ago while Rick was in a coma?) and nobody opted to drive on the other side of the highway where obviously no cars were coming??...I guess it's because they all stopped at the huge traffic jam on the highway outside of town...heh).
....but yeah, artists that aren't writers...they do stuff like that....imagine the group going through a huge traffic jam with flipped over trucks and such...dead bodies in the driver's seats of cars with seat belts on...that kind of stuff...and then they write their way to that scene...whether it makes sense to do so or not...
Like others, I too want to like the show...though I know highschool kids that would write it better. My wife could even write it better! It'd be full of sappy romancy crap, but at least it'd be coherent...
-Rob
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and I dont think this episode was really bad so cut it some slack maybe?
Dude the fun part about watching series and being a member of this forum is to discuss things about them, be they good or bad, i'm not saying the entire show is bad, i like it but it doesn't mean we have to be complete fanbois, you have been here longer than i am, you should know that.