6x03 - The Curse of the Black Spot (Page 1 of 2)

... and grab it while it's hot - a rather fast release IMHO - DH is picking up the pace

I've never been a big fan of pirate stories, so it was only ok.  It didn't suck as much as I thought it would. 

It annoyed me that they fell into the usual TV trap of showing a successful cpr even though it was done entirely wrong.  Ah well.

This was not a good episode, even the continuity got so bored they forgot about the last pirate who the boy cut with a cutlass and he simply disappeared until the scene on the bridge of the alien spaceship.

Marcos is right. Was fun, but not great. It's a fun episode if you like pirates, resolution is a lot like the one in The Empty Child/Doctor Dances, though the "monster" is a lot less scary. There are two reasons for this ep. here, 1, remind us that the adventures we see on the TV are just the ones deemed most important to tell .. and that a LOT happens as they travel in a very nonlinear way through their lives in the Tardis, (Moffat actually did good on this Doctor Who trope in the finale of last season, where one of the Doctor's flashbacks was of a trip to "space Florida" or somthing like that) and 2, to wet our senses to just how big troubles are about to be, that such a story as this one is played like a stepping stone. Though I must admit, I feel we are to see the reformed space pirates again.

The next ep. tease, however, made me smile. Ood ... there is something eary about the Ood ... even though I thought The Planet of the Ood was a bit of a bore ... but thats Cat Tate for me ... she bored the hell out me with that excuse for a companion that Donna Noble was. One thing, though, is that Donna started the trope that the Doctor's companions might not be so randomly chosen even as he thinks they are ... something Moffat is exploring a lot better, as usual.

Apparently this was supposed to be episode 8 (or was written as such) and they moved it up for some reason or other - most likely to give us a respite between the continuity heavy two-part opener and the next episode, which seems to be very River-heavy at least.

"We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We're evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go."
-- Colonel Tigh

This just compounded my frustration at trying to watch the episode. I really enjoy Matt Smith's portrayal of the Doctor, its just a shame he is not getting the production quality that he deserves.

I know how you feel, matt smith is the only doctor i have actually liked. It sucks how he gets flamed for the failings of the writters and producers.

Me Niether O.o

But i did see the chick from coronation street

First off, let's put the blame where it belongs: the fate of the last pirate was clearly dropped during editing for (I assume) time reasons. It had absolutely nothing to do with the writer. And yes, I agree, it was kind of a big omission. However, the little kid cut him, so it stands to reason he was taken by siren at some point. If your episode is running long and you have to cut something, that is a good candidate: it is yet another "death by siren" (we've seen several at that point, do we need to see one more, more of the same?) and the audience is capable of deducing what happened to him pretty easily. If he'd run out after the other traitor you would jump to the same conclusion, so stop being so anal-retentive about it

Uhm, how do you know there was no reflection? They hid below decks and made sure there were no reflecting surfaces there, but above decks there are presumably several reflecting surfaces like lanterns, windows, and polished metal objects. Also it is raining and while they did claim that the surface had to be still, I bet even the wet polished wood or puddles of water could reflect enough for the siren to appear. (And if you really want to push it and ask why they had to open the barrel for her to save Rory - which btw. wouldn't be a still reflection because of the rain so she couldn't appear - maybe because it just started raining there weren't enough puddles yet.)

Why do you assume the medical hologram "beams" all of its patients directly into the beds and ties them down? All its patients were stripped down from the waist up so I assume that after the patients get beamed on board they go through an initial checkup where they get changed, etc. If it makes you feel better you can imagine another hologram or a little band of robots does that and because our three remaining heroes weren't unconscious and got up and started walking around immediately, the robots didn't have time to get to them ...

Is it really that hard for you to suspend your disbelief? Sure, you can nitpick and destroy any piece of fiction. If you want to bitch about something, go ahead, but first learn the writer's name (it's Steve Thompson btw.), second blame him for stuff that is his fault (which is really hard to say nowadays with writers' rooms and the whole production process that happens after the writers have done their job), and third stop being so anal-retentive about a frickin' kid's show!

Was this a flawless episode? Hell no, but it's flaws weren't the things you point out and in any case it was very much on par with the production quality of all Doctor Who episodes since the show's revival in 2005.

Just my assumption (I don't watch the previews) from the title ("The Doctor's Wife"). I am probably horribly wrong

"We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We're evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go."
-- Colonel Tigh

After an argument in a Stargate thread about facts etc., I think one of the whole points of Sci-Fi is that you suspend disbelief and fill in the plot holes with your imagination. It is a TV show after all!
That's how I've always watched Sci-Fi anyway...

They look nothing alike! Cole has much squinter eyes!

Why use arguments when you can just call people names? Very mature ...

Who said anything about urgency? You get injured, no matter how serious, you get beamed on-board. The hologram acted the same way whether it was a cut finger or a drowning man, no rush, just doing its job. Again, I think the main difference between the Doctor and his companions getting aboard and everybody previously is their state of injury (they were awake, lucid, and mobile) and their state of mind.

It stands to reason that the hologram works as a doctor so unless you are unconscious or need to be restrained, it heals you just like our doctors do - you walk into the infirmary, it does its "magic," you are healed, you walk out and continue doing your job on the ship. It makes no sense whatsoever to strip down, knock out, and constrain every patient that needs healing, no matter how small the injury.

I suspect that Rory was on the bed because he was unconscious when he was beamed it. The rest of the crew I would assume started panicking and were hysterical - 16th century sailors in a futuristic ship like that, no wonder - and thus had to be restrained. All rather logical, I think.

I really don't understand what the point of contention is - we are arguing stupid elements and supposed "logic flaws" from a kid's show. As I've said before, there is a logical explanation that works within the rules that the episode set. They just weren't clearly spelled out, mostly for time constraint reasons.

"We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We're evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go."
-- Colonel Tigh

I know that arguing this is pointless (see the Backfire Effect), but I can't help myself:

If my thoughts and conclusions about the episode aren't logical to you, that is fine. I would think that logic and reason are universal, but alright, maybe they aren't logical to you. But claiming that "[my explanations] ignore things that was said and showed in the episode" isn't helping your case either. Either you care enough about this argument to actually cite some examples from the episode - as I have done in my first post, at least - or you don't and you are just hiding behind vapid statements like "[I - meaning me] didnt watch the episode or forgot most of it."

I presented my counter-arguments and you responded with another broad, unsubstantiated claim. You are perfectly within your rights to hang on to your thoughts and feelings about the episode, thinking it is bad, etc., but you cannot claim my reasoning above is faulty or incorrect without evidence. If you believe that any of my thoughts outlined above are disproven by what was said or done in the episode, prove it.

"We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We're evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go."
-- Colonel Tigh