1 (edited by nivalis 2014-04-08 16:05:21)

Topic: laugh machine

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nivalis wrote:

http://i.imgur.com/eUdSU.jpg

is anyone thinking what im thinking?

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if you want to take a picture/pictures where you show the real audience as it is, why use a technique that makes the audience look bigger? lots of "double people". now, sure, that's the way the panoramic picture is taken using angles, but why not just take a single image and crop the top and bottom?

That depends on what are you thinking?

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sean14 wrote:
nivalis wrote:

http://i.imgur.com/eUdSU.jpg

is anyone thinking what im thinking?

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if you want to take a picture/pictures where you show the real audience as it is, why use a technique that makes the audience look bigger? lots of "double people". now, sure, that's the way the panoramic picture is taken using angles, but why not just take a single image and crop the top and bottom?

That depends on what are you thinking?

Indeed. It's supposed to look goofy. All three pictures are the same - just a little shuffled. It's the same background wink

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4 (edited by xrnzaaas 2011-04-29 17:36:39)

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I personally don't care if the audience is fake or not. If the show is good then I can live with a laugh machine, and if it's crappy then even an audience laughing at everything won't save it.

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I don't know if I understood you correctly but in my opinion a laugh machine is a more safer way to go, because it's up to the producers of the show to choose the moments and types of audience laughs. If you have a live audience with you things can always go wrong, for example when the audience decides that the joke is over when it's not.

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That might be true. Lack of real/fake audience seems to hurts some shows that aren't just funny enough on their own. Happy Endings might be a good example here... it could really use a laugh track like HIMYM.

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Even if it was real, the sound editor could edit it so people would laugh at certain times or offset their reactions. Or even cancel some out. A good example of a show without it, are cartoons like Family Guy and South Park. They actually have to get the timing just perfect for the jokes to succeed.

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8 (edited by Deke 2011-04-30 08:37:11)

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I can't remember which show it was i use to watch where the laught track was SOOOOO
obvious that it use to spoil the show for me.
I've never ever noticed the laugh track in tbbt so for that reason i'm out...
i mean for that reason i don't care if it's a laugh track but i would be very surprised if it was.

edit:
as for the picture it's 2 different audiences, the middle and left are the same audience  just ovelapping. maybe the right hand one is a different night  big_smile

Re: laugh machine

nivalis wrote:
Deke wrote:

I can't remember which show it was i use to watch where the laught track was SOOOOO
obvious that it use to spoil the show for me.
I've never ever noticed the laugh track in tbbt so for that reason i'm out...
i mean for that reason i don't care if it's a laugh track but i would be very surprised if it was.

my theory is if you find a show funny you'll be less likely to notice the laugh track as something intrusive

Yea, good point

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I remember a while back i watched the un-aired pilot of TBBT (the one without Penny) and it didn't have any laughter (real or fake tracks) and I remember thinking this is so weird, I found myself preferring the laughter. I dunno if it was b/c I was so used it but it was eerie to hear the dead silence after a funny moment.

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fathead2k wrote:

I remember a while back i watched the un-aired pilot of TBBT (the one without Penny) and it didn't have any laughter (real or fake tracks) and I remember thinking this is so weird, I found myself preferring the laughter. I dunno if it was b/c I was so used it but it was eerie to hear the dead silence after a funny moment.

On the contrary I thought there was a laugh track too. But the pre-pilot wasn't that funny and it was heavily rewritten. Leonard and Sheldon were just nerdy nerds and picking up a hookerish streetgirl wasn't a good long lasting plot idea.
But Cheesekake Factory Penny was an all win situation big_smile

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nivalis wrote:
sean14 wrote:

That depends on what are you thinking?

i guess.. if you want to show reality, why distort it?

u r right i hadn't looked close enough, now i realized.

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Does anyone know anybody who has been part of a live studio audience that a show has been filmed before? I've imagined it being an odd experience to be part of the live studio audience...I mean, if it's for tv they probably do multiple takes and variants on ad-libbed jokes and whatnot, don't they? so would you be sitting there laughing repeatedly at the same punchlines? weird.

-Rob

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I was once at a late night show and once at Oprah Winfrey's big_smile

They have directors for the audience and actually people with signs for when to applause and when not. They even animate you to clap harder or slower - like an orchestra. It sort of kills the fun for the audience, but it's a unique experience.
They even do multiple takes if something was too wrong or a technical issue occured. Then you have to start like an extremely funny moment just happened. The same is for commercial breaks. There is of course just a small break but no funny moment, but when the show returns from the commercials you always have major applause, but nothing happened really - it's all an act wink

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Some years ago I followed a BBC crew around for a couple of days and out of everything they recorded on the two days I was with them, about 30 seconds of it was shown on TV.

The whole experience really opened my eyes up to how fake everything is in TV world.

I don't like canned laughter either (what we called a "laugh machine" in the UK) as I don't like to be shown what I should be laughing at.  But I don't think there's an easy way to identify which is a genuine studio audiences' laughter, and which has been slapped on post-recorded.

That's the second biggest X I've ever seen.

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nivalis wrote:

http://i.imgur.com/eUdSU.jpg

is anyone thinking what im thinking?

SPOILER Show
if you want to take a picture/pictures where you show the real audience as it is, why use a technique that makes the audience look bigger? lots of "double people". now, sure, that's the way the panoramic picture is taken using angles, but why not just take a single image and crop the top and bottom?

Actually, I don't really understand what Chuck Lorre's point is here.  The picture looks ridiculously fake.  It's looks like it's been thrown together by hashing together three odd looking photos.  So is he saying "yes, it's all as fake as this photo", or "this is our studio audience we record in front of, but I've made the photo look odd to be ironic" or what?

That's the second biggest X I've ever seen.

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BlackBox wrote:

I was once at a late night show

WHICH ONE WHICH ONE.

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nivalis wrote:

something like this?

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Yep.  I could of done something similar if I had the time or inclination!  Bit of an odd thing for a Lorre to have done, unless of course that was kind of his point.  If it was, it was entirely wasted on me.

That's the second biggest X I've ever seen.

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Cool stuff, BB!

Niv, it looks to me like the shot angles originate much closer to one another...it's the only way the aisles would be at those angles in the left and right shots.

-Rob

20 (edited by Keisu 2011-04-30 19:01:07)

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There's got to be background laughter, it makes you start thinking about what they said. Like "oh.. hey thats funny", else I'd have to pay so much attention to what they are saying all the time, like someone telling a story.

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nivalis wrote:
graybags wrote:

It's looks like it's been thrown together by hashing together three odd looking photos.

something like this?
http://i.imgur.com/mTGZI.jpg


good eyes there!!!