2x18 - Epilogue (Page 2 of 4)

They Didn't have Rush's Knowledge , Only Eli's and the other scientists which wasn't enough to built a space ship especially when they didn't have the tools to do so...
You can take the best minds on this earth ,put them on a deserted island and they won't be able to built you a spaceship....

Passing down knowledge is pretty easy if you invented scripting and know how to make paper or something similar. And skipping the dark ages and all the religious crap (besides worshipping Rush as God ) is a major science boost. But yes - 2000 years with nothing but the knowledge of now should give you more than a headstart to build something great. But for FTL I wouldn't be so sure. Even Hawking isn't sure about that, but yes this is Stargate theory but without any alien involvement
The only thing that bugs me alot is the whole instable world thing. 2000 years is nothing for a planet and if something is going wrong now it should have started way before 2000 years ago. So it would be very possible that a major earthquake (2012 style, not Fukushima style) wiped out all population.
But then again - this is just a 42 minute tv show episode

Yep - you're wrong there. A black hole is actually a weird star that imploded. But it moves as any other object in space. But it pulls (almost) anything in it especially photons/light. But you can see it very clearly in the sky - especially when it's that close, because it sucks in the light of the other stars - well that's why it's called a black hole, because you actually see a big black hole in the sky

Hmm - actually no. If you have two objects (stones/planets/galaxies) they actually pull each other. It's just depending on the mass. Of course if you take a black hole and a stone the effect of the stone pulling the black hole is much lesser, but if you take a black hole and a solar system there is a mutual reaction.

Well - as I said - you can see a black hole as you can see the absence of light. The event horizon is more like the distance from the black hole center where the light reaches the point of no return. Also the a black hole causes a space warp, which bends the light of the surrounding stars, so that you can see it moving like a lense over the sky, with a black hole in the middle.

Here is a nice explanation and animation that should clearify things

And they didn't have FTL ships. Only slower, interplanetary, ships. That's why the escaped people from the planet wouldn't arrive at the destination for another 200 years and Destiny could have gone there in a week.

Indeed

Actually the theory is that every galaxy has a black hole in the very middle of itself. And the only way for a black hole on it's own would be if it already sucked in the whole galaxy. But that might be too much and the black hole would have rather exploded in the process and the cycle starts all over again.

This (w)hole discussion reminds me how much I like this (The Big Bang) theory and how poorly it is treated in the tv-shows

You guys are talking about FTL like it's a simple thing (for those guys that were on Destiny) you forget that:
1. Even Rush had very limited understanding on FTL.
2. The Goa'uld, The Asgards (in both galaxies), The Replicators (in both galaxies) and the Wraith didn't have FTL and they were tens of thousands of years ahead of human race in technology.
3. even the ancients that were in Atlantis didn't have FTL - only sub space travel and a failed experiment on warp (or something like that) that Mckay "fixed" on the last episode.
4. Until dialing the 9th chevron , they didn't even know that there are ships traveling at FTL speed and that you can gate to them while they are in FTL.
5. even If you pass the information - the one that receives it needs to be exceptionally smart to understand it and further evolve it and without proper tools , it's hard to pass the info onwards...

Well , that's my opinion anyways , I think that achieving space travel in 2000 years when you had nothing to start with is very nice...

hyperdrive is not FTL - FTL is Faster Than Light Speed while hyperdrive is traveling in sub space at light speed or less

and if I'm not mistaken , when they first gated to Destiny , it was still at FTL - she drops from FTL when It's near planets...

well , I checked at stargate wiki and about the drives and FTL , it was never clear how the ship travels at FTL speed but it says that they work on similar concept but hyperdrive travel requires a ship opening a sub space window in order to travel.
In fact , it could be that FTL is older version to hyperdrive travel while the stardrive (that is what Mckay fixed) is the most powerful drive (I excluded sub space engines as they are irrelevant)

Indeed (saying it in the voice of Teal'c    )

You just don't understand how wrong you are, FTL is any matter or information that travels faster than the speed of light, so by that definition, hyperdrive, is FTL. So the Asgards, the goaul'd, the Ori, the Furling, the Nox, the ancients, the replicator (build by the ancients) and i can keep going naming razes, all had FTL travel. Another fact is that wormholes (the gates) are also FTL. so when you talked about the ancients not having FTL you really got it wrong.

sub space engines, such as sub space communications are FTL, i think you were referring to sub-light engines. 

i believe that for what i explained to you above is pretty obvious they did know FTL traveling ships existed, they did not know you could dial in to them while being in hyperspace.

And in case you are going to say that FTL is achievable by non sub-space travel, the on going theory nowadays says that if you reach the speed of light without being in sub-space, the matter disintegrates.

In other matter, they did see the black hole coming thats why they left, they came up with a solution in time. They just exploited their time on the planet as much as the could.

Ah, Mr. K. All, I believe he is talking about the difference between Hyperdrive and FTL drive. As mentioned earlier, we're all well aware (even more so after you're informative post) that they are both types of FTL travel. It seems that only the Ancients (and subsequently maybe the Ori) had the FTL drive technology.

They knew that FTL travel existed, but they didn't know about Destiny's FTL drive. It's a completely different form of interstellar travel compared to that of Hyperdrive, which seems to be promintent (and have superseded FTL) in most of the known galaxies.

You are wrong. Destiny isn't in Hyperspace as it doesn't have a Hyperdrive, it has a FTL drive!

They clearly didn't otherwise they would have moved the gate, and/or built ships with FTL abilities.