Topic: 2x18 - Epilogue

I enjoyed this episode. I really wish this show wasn't canceled.  Seeing what happened to them and who ended up with who was good. Plus, TJ is so easy on the eyes.

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i seriously thought that would settle this their descendants thingie this episode and move on. but seems they (writers) want to end this series this way.
since there are only 2 more episodes left, kinda not much time to play with different options.

it was kinda soapy episode about who screws who and who has how many kids.
and of course they did not manage to download all the database.
another thing that puzzled me was that since everyone on Destiny is kinda smart and stuff and they did not leave the knowledge of FTL/Stardrive  to their descendants. it took them 2000 years to reach space flight.
other than this rant i liked the episode and i'm very very very very very sad they kill this series.

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GodZionu wrote:

but seems they (writers) want to end this series this way.

I don't think so, but all episodes of this season were already written when the decision came.

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GodZionu wrote:

they did not leave the knowledge of FTL/Stardrive  to their descendants. it took them 2000 years to reach space flight.

There was no one to pass that info to the generations to come.
Only Rush had sufficient knowledge on FTL and HyperDrives.
Elly is a math boy not a space one although he picked up a lot it's still not enough.
Even the other scientists don't have enough knowledge for these things.
Besides , don't forget that they came to those planets with barely no Superior technology and tools.
They gated to those worlds thinking they are heading towards Earth.

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XtazyMike wrote:

Elly is a math boy not a space one although he picked up a lot it's still not enough.

They gated to those worlds thinking they are heading towards Earth.

Eli was even superior in math in some points than Dr.Rush.

and no they did not want to gate to earth.
if you remember correctly they were at least 6-8 galaxies away from Milky Way.

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GodZionu wrote:
XtazyMike wrote:

Elly is a math boy not a space one although he picked up a lot it's still not enough.

They gated to those worlds thinking they are heading towards Earth.

Eli was even superior in math in some points than Dr.Rush.

and no they did not want to gate to earth.
if you remember correctly they were at least 6-8 galaxies away from Milky Way.

Earth is exactly where they were trying to go, thats why they were dialing from inside the star.(and Telford made it to earth)

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i really liked this episode,

why it took them 2000 years to raech space travel, probobly has to do with the fact that they were kinda busy surviving. knowledge is easily forgotten.

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I really wanted to like this episode it just felt rushed to me. I know the show is ending but too much happened to fast and we didn't get the time enjoy what easily could have been a good finale to the series.
Pacing has been the problem with this show all along, it's either too slow or too fast.

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Space travel wasn't really an important thing for them either. They couldn't get home; if the Ancients couldn't build spacecraft that could travel over galaxies quickly (ie, less than 100 years) then I don't see how they could in 2000 years.
And you have to remember, with that last scene where the old Young dies; they thought of Novus as home anyway.

On a different topic, would have it been possible for them to dial 8 chevrons to gate back to Earth (Assuming they could build sufficient power generators and know Earth's address)?

Oh and I kind of felt this episode was a bit of a filler, even though we found new stuff out, it just seemed filly.
One thing that I think they've over done throughout the whole series is the Kino. There's too much of it, far too much...

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Awesome episode.

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It was a good episode. Funny and easy going and like Halo2 said filly, but still at times felt like a story-heavy episode. I'm not sure if the episode has much to do with the overall arc, but I still wouldn't really classify it fully as filler.

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GodZionu wrote:

and no they did not want to gate to earth.
if you remember correctly they were at least 6-8 galaxies away from Milky Way.

You do know you are wrong ,do you??  big_smile

you should watch the last  episodes again

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XtazyMike wrote:
GodZionu wrote:

and no they did not want to gate to earth.
if you remember correctly they were at least 6-8 galaxies away from Milky Way.

You do know you are wrong ,do you??  big_smile

you should watch the last  episodes again

I think you're both crossing wires, GodZionu meant they weren't trying to find their way back to Earth by gating through all available gates, while you originally meant gate directly from Destiny to Earth (in the sun), hence the lack of equipment etc..
I think GodZionu just misinterpreted your original statement, just from what I've read. Maybe wrong of course, I'm not putting words in peoples mouths! smile

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I'm just messing with Godzi with some humor, nothing seriously....  wink
and yes , that is what I was talking about - that's why they attempted to dial from within a star....

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I actually really liked this episode, in a way it could have been a decent..ish finale. We now know they have it in them to make a new home if they cant get back to earth.
Do we know if they filmed the last episode knowing they weren't getting another season? Will there be some sort of wrap up or just an unfinished cliff hanger?

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This episode felt to me like a kick of for a new BSG like series. Just imagine all the people on big space ships heading for a new home - called earth. Sounds familiar? wink

The episode was great despite some obvious plot tricks like in every situation like this. Over the years I really hate it. It's always like this:
- finding a great place that has been around for hundreds/thousands of years in perfect shape
- discovering great info/treasure
- but having minutes/hours to collect/carry/transfer - so impossible to make it
- everything collapses/melts/floods
- (almost) everybody makes it out/home/back

Why - oh why has it always to be this way tongue

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GodZionu wrote:

i seriously thought that would settle this their descendants thingie this episode and move on. but seems they (writers) want to end this series this way.
since there are only 2 more episodes left, kinda not much time to play with different options.

it was kinda soapy episode about who screws who and who has how many kids.
and of course they did not manage to download all the database.
another thing that puzzled me was that since everyone on Destiny is kinda smart and stuff and they did not leave the knowledge of FTL/Stardrive  to their descendants. it took them 2000 years to reach space flight.
other than this rant i liked the episode and i'm very very very very very sad they kill this series.


First of all if you know the stargate series as you should, you must know that the never perfected FTL/Stardrive engines thats why the couldn't leave that knowledge to their descendants. In stargate sg-1 they make a few experiments with naquadria, but colonel o'neil gets lost in space with teal'c. you should also know that people on earth couldn't build ships on their own, at least not without the asgards help or goa'ulds technology. So please check your facts before you comment. thank u bye smile

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you should also know that people on earth couldn't build ships on their own, at least not without the asgards help or goa'ulds technology

Mr. K. All, do tell how their descendents built the ships on Novus?

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Nice episode! It seems that all the best episodes are the one with some sort of time-traveling big_smile I remember the episode where they found an "ancient" Kino, discovering their one demise on it. Loved it!

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The episode was great despite some obvious plot tricks like in every situation like this. Over the years I really hate it. It's always like this:
- finding a great place that has been around for hundreds/thousands of years in perfect shape
- discovering great info/treasure
- but having minutes/hours to collect/carry/transfer - so impossible to make it
- everything collapses/melts/floods
- (almost) everybody makes it out/home/back

Why - oh why has it always to be this way tongue

I thought it was implied that the laser blast from the Destiny was what accelerated the earthquake activity...or did I pull that out of my ass?

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This storyline is awesome smile
Those last scenes, showing the progress of their city, were beautiful...

I really hope that this show will have a fairly proper ending.... no frakking cliffhangers!

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proteinnerd wrote:
BlackBox wrote:

The episode was great despite some obvious plot tricks like in every situation like this. Over the years I really hate it. It's always like this:
- finding a great place that has been around for hundreds/thousands of years in perfect shape
- discovering great info/treasure
- but having minutes/hours to collect/carry/transfer - so impossible to make it
- everything collapses/melts/floods
- (almost) everybody makes it out/home/back

Why - oh why has it always to be this way tongue

I thought it was implied that the laser blast from the Destiny was what accelerated the earthquake activity...or did I pull that out of my ass?

While it was never mentioned that this was the case, I'm inclined to agree with you, as when they entered the facility it was completely intact...

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This storyline is awesome smile
Those last scenes, showing the progress of their city, were beautiful...

I really hope that this show will have a fairly proper ending.... no frakking cliffhangers!

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Halo2 wrote:
proteinnerd wrote:
BlackBox wrote:

The episode was great despite some obvious plot tricks like in every situation like this. Over the years I really hate it. It's always like this:
- finding a great place that has been around for hundreds/thousands of years in perfect shape
- discovering great info/treasure
- but having minutes/hours to collect/carry/transfer - so impossible to make it
- everything collapses/melts/floods
- (almost) everybody makes it out/home/back

Why - oh why has it always to be this way tongue

I thought it was implied that the laser blast from the Destiny was what accelerated the earthquake activity...or did I pull that out of my ass?

While it was never mentioned that this was the case, I'm inclined to agree with you, as when they entered the facility it was completely intact...

Yeah right - have you seen the laser blast and the lava stream - I tend to think that there is quite a mismatch in causality. But any reason given is sufficient I guess. I still hate these plots. But the episode was nice - especially the epilogue / fashback scenes wink

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this ep pissed me off.... they  try to cram too much stuff down our throat in the last episode.  They shoulda gave it a two hour finale at least.  And yes i'm probably bitter that its canceled but i really do hate how they cancel shows when they start getting good.  Cancel'n after the first season i could understand but now it seems ridiculous. 

As far as FTL drive stuff was concerned... you gotta remember that the only thing that was passed down from destiny was the knowledge left from ELI's books, and the Kino information. 

And Destiny's main weapon may have shook the building a little, but the black whole and the earth quakes probably did more to bring it down.  And a building that was up for decades just had to fall the same day they arrived. 

Atlantis, now Universe... wonder what new show they'll have next for the Stargate genre just so they can ruin it for us fans =p

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Halo2 wrote:
sean14 wrote:

you should also know that people on earth couldn't build ships on their own, at least not without the asgards help or goa'ulds technology

Mr. K. All, do tell how their descendents built the ships on Novus?

No, not really, but we are intelligent enough to assume that after 2000 years of research with rush's, Eli's, and the others knowledge the figured it out. Remember that they could pass on their knowledge with the kino's recording system.