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Phatency wrote:
proteinnerd wrote:

I still want to know the BSM's name grrr

How about we call him Esau, Jacob's twin brother in the bible.

'The boys displayed very different natures as they matured. "Esau became a hunter, a man of the field, but Jacob was a simple man, a dweller in tents"'

Yeah a lot of the online discussions call him Esau. Wonder if the producers wanted us to think that was his name and have all the religious connotations, or they just couldn't think of a good name and left it at that.

One thing I was wondering, did Ben choose not to join them in the church and thus not move on with them? I'm guessing he did a lot of stuff on the Island that he ended up regretting, was this his way of punishing himself? To not include himself in the endless love fest?

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Perhaps Ben didn't feel as if he was redeemed enough yet for all that he had done, as he said he still had things to work through. Or perhaps his intent was to bring Rousseau and Alex to a place of peace first, before crossing over himself...

Or maybe he just really hated all those bastards inside the church. big_smile

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I'm happy that Lost is over and unhappy that it ended this way. The whole purgatory - which is the only explanation for these flash-whatevers - was disappointing for me. Cmon all dead and waiting for the loved ones to cross over together - lame. It just sums up the show in a happy couple wrap-up party. Please end the show properly and don't include party-pics!

So if you exclude the purgatory part of the finale/season 6 you really just have a fight between two brothers and their compelled followers. To call them Jacob and Esau is fair because of the extreme similarities. And why invent a new idea for an epic tv show when you can reuse and old one, that was cheap imagination of the writers! hmm

Of course I didn't want explanations of all mysteries. Mysteries are fine light magic powers and glowing light. But at least some plot lines should have been explained, like why the 30 year gap or time travel at all? Why were there just a few survivers in the final plane and what happened with them - they made a whole Oceanic Six story line - so these survivers should be even more interesting to the world. And what are Hurley and Ben doing with the island? They were also in the purgatory so died very quickly, otherwise the purgatory had to wait for them long in the future wink

I also feel empty - I expected way more from a groundbreaking, outstanding, never before seen tv show.

BTW - the BSG ending was also mysterious but it wrapped up the whole 4 seasons and all made sense. That was executed very nicely in opposite of the Lost ending.

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IMHO it was massively disappointing, but not unexpected seeing as how the overall show evolved.

I mean, having a magical island, and not revealing anything about what it was, how it came to be, what it's purpose was, is just taking the easy way out. At the end of day that was what kept the mystery alive, and what most people wanted to know more about.

I would say overall that Lost was a great show, with fantastic characters and interesting turn of events, but in retrospect now that the show is over, the overall plot proved stands as way too weak to be one of my favorite shows.

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Hi dudes,

long time, no see (seems I was stuck on an ... ehm ... island...?)

Here's my cheap 5 cent about the ending.

Everybody died within the crash. The whole show was about lost souls not accepting their own dead, finding a way out. In the beginning of ep. 1.01 we saw Jack lying on his back, starring into the sky. The dog came - like at the end of the final episode (and no, it was not the dog's dream, like s.o. joked before... wink ). That gives me reason to believe, that everything that we saw happening was Jack's soul finding his way out from denying to accept his dead - in a very subconscious way. Everything he got through together with the plane-crashers, the others, the other others, and so on was his subconsciousness routing him the way from the living to the dead.
Another explanation could be that it was a common experience for all those dead people on the plane crash. For those of them, who didn't accept their dead, to be precise (there were dead bodies in the beginning). Everything else they experienced on the island was part of their transformin of their "common soul", if I may name it this way.
Has anybody else but those from the crash been in the church? Don't mention Linus - he refused to enter the church! And Jack's father very well made clear, that not he is alive again, but his son - Jack - now is a dead man, too. So it goes.

Just my 5 cent, as I mentioned. There's a lot of more space to interprete and reinterprete the whole ending in context to several episodes in complete different ways.

Cheers,

Frank

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proteinnerd wrote:

We do have answers to all these even if we don't understand them all. Ok, apart from the first one.

What was the light? It was the heart of the Island and the source of its "power" its electro magnetic force etc.
How did people get powers? From the light
How did they teleport the island (I'm guess you mean how did it travel through time)..by activating the machine powered by the light.

the light being the heart of the island is not an explanation,at best it's a location and the whole let's blame everything that was basicaly magic on elctromagnetism is stupid.you might as well go with "follow the yellowbrick road".
for the first 5seasons i thought it was a show about an island with unic properties explored for us by this last bunch of people that crashed.the characters were writen in a great way so you could relate,empathise with them sinking you deeper in this world where the laws of physics are at their most extreme.then at the end of season 5 we got the first glimps of this religious stuff wich i was ok with,let's explore that to but enidng it with only adressing that aspect is only a resolution for season 6 not the show

paisley1 wrote:

In some of my conversations with LOST watchers/"not real fans" I've wondered that as well, like, why the crap were they watching?  LOST is not called FOUND.  It's about lost characters and why they are as they are and how they're going to find redemption via existential character dillemas, and second, it's a scifi mystery......stronger writing on the former than the latter.

yep and that's why the finale did not live up even to the shadow of the rest of the show

Sledge Hammer wrote:

It kind of saddens me to see so many people wanting everything explained in detail, and every answer seemingly spoon fed to them, and tied up into a neat little bow. Real life doesn't work like that, so why should the dramatised television equivalent do so?

because it's the dramatised television equivalent!!!that's why lol all though the show was nothing like real life.you don't have magic in real life!!!!you don't believe in magic do you?

Sledge Hammer wrote:

What was The Island? It simply was what it was. Nobody knew for sure, because nobody could know. It was simply The Island.

Why would Jack sacrifice himself for The Island? Because of faith. And faith is never logical, or rational, or explainable, or definable. Things that are done in the name of faith are done because we believe in the importance of it, not because we know and not because we have proof. If proof existed there would be no need of faith. Jack did what he believed had to be done.

wait a minute.remember the first seasons?wasn't jack the man of logic?isn't that how he became the leader,the main character?
in the last seasons he was a man of faith and he was WRONG about everything.Smokie was right about everything so he had way more credibility and he wanted to get far away from the island,even destroy it.it just seems to me that jacks death for this island was stupid....although it was nicely done.

oh and one last rant,and this really is nitpicking:how could kate kill smokie?i didn't get that.sliver bullet maybe? lol

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kalapkaki wrote:

oh and one last rant,and this really is nitpicking:how could kate kill smokie?i didn't get that.sliver bullet maybe? lol

Smokie was wrong/diden't know or underestimated that he would lose his powers when the light went off. With that the island LOST its powers and so Locke/Smokie could get killed even with a normal bullet, Richard could get older and the plane could finally leave the Island.

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ok,i guess that makes some sense.so that's why jack was ok with puting the light out?so he could kill smokie?that would make the going back and forth to the cave thing seem less lame

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marius wrote:

@Not A Stalker: WTF is up with your signature?

If she won't hold your hand, hold her throat.
If she puts you in the friend zone, put her in the rape zone.

Are you completely retarded?

Rest of this forum: Are you really OK with this? Seriously!? I mean at best I assume he is trying to be funny, but it is so far from actually being close to anything like that, it is just offensive.

Tnx marius - indeed this is retarded and I also find no way how this could be funny or informative.
I took care of it wink

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Nick wrote:
Hr. Ulottuvuus wrote:

the numbers example were the constants of an equation that predicted the end of man. These constants had to be changed so the world wouldn't end ... to put it shortly...

When was this mentioned? What ep?

I agree with most people here that the finale asked more questions that it answered =/

edit: ohh ^^ that explanation sorta makes sence!

it was not in any episode, it was part of the marketing plan. It only worked in the USA witch was a bummer, but anyway, they made a fictional tv commercial bout Hanso corporation, wich was shown sometime during season 3, from the commercial you got a phone number, when you called it you got another clue and so on... it was a game, and when you playd it the conclusion was the numbers what they ment and who came up with them.


all these questions you all have here on this thred, i have an answer to all of them... not kidding, you only have to REALLY WATCH the show ja use your brain and surf the net to find the answers to them...

and why micheal wasn't at the end, im guessing he is still on the island... Where the dead roam...

what doesn't kill you - hurts even more...

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ritman wrote:

Lol i like how every1 rationalises the Finale as good becuase they figured out that the flashes were a sort of limbo and the island was real. *Heres your Cookie* (Which is flawed becuase it didnt even make sense on how it came about)

But the point is that all the questions we actually cared about wernt anwsered. OR even hinted at sad

What was the island?
a place where the "spirit" of  humans resided

What was the light?
the "spirit" of humans

How did people get powers?
most of them were born with them, some got them from godlike creatures (like Jacob)

HTF did they teleport an island?
it's all quantumphysics, check it out, teleportation is possible and it has been achieved already by modern scientists.


Lolz @ the guy who tried to Sue.

what doesn't kill you - hurts even more...

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WhoopWhoop wrote:

Everybody died within the crash.

No they didn't, in the sideways flash they were dead but as Christian said, everything that happened on the island was real...

...where did I put that rat's ass I could give?

Daemons are benevolent or benign nature spirits, beings of the same nature as both mortals and gods, similar to ghosts, chthonic heroes, spirit guides, forces of nature or the gods themselves.

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I've been on next episode a while now but never joined the forums until now so here is my view..

i liked the finale for the fact that every individual, with the exception of a few, that we grew to love and felt pain with at thier loss got what they considered to be their happy ending. Every sad death was sort of reversed. For example, we were sad when hurley lost his girl (can't remember her name since it was so long ago i saw her in lost). We were sad when charlie died and didn't get his life with claire. We were sad when shannon died after sayid found someone to love as much as his first wife. Personally i was happy when they all found each other and remembered thier experiences.

As i am not religious i didn't really enjoy the ending being all about religion but thats a personal opinion and many who believe in god would disagree with me.

Just because we were following jacks awakening in pergatory at the same time as his death on the island doesn't mean that they were running along the same timescale. From what i took out of it and from what Christian said to Jack, hurley could have lived a long and prosperous life on the island with ben and died an old man. a minute in pergatory could be a lifetime on the island therefore everyone after jack lived thier lives in full. when aaron was born in pergatory maybe he died in reality after living his life to the full. christian did tell jack something along the lines of "some died before you and some after".

The powers of miles and hurley could be explained away rationally as not powers at all but were given more weight because that was all the lost characters had to go on. for example, there are many people in our world right now who believe that they can talk to the dead and some get paid alot of money to do so on tv. what makes miles any different to them. he could be lying like the real people who claim to hear the dead could be. hurley spent time in a mental facility and could just be suffering from delusions and maybe those of grandeur, he sees important dead people who tell him he must carry out certain things to save everyone else. jacob is maybe just very good at manipulating people to do what he wants and was therefore able to manipulate all the characters to be in a certain place or do a certain action at a certain time allowing for the plane to crash which, if i remember rightly, was caused by ben and his people.

A few mysteries for me is how a man turns to black smoke, how an island sits undescovered in our day and age and what exactly the island is. i believe though that jacob himself didn't know these answers and that the answers died with his mother who was killed by his brother before she had a chance to spread her knowledge. with her death went any way of knowing what the island was and the island will remain a mystery forever more. jacob and those after him were just blindly protecting someting they were told to protect without ever knowing exactly why.

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now this is a real ending lol

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kalapkaki wrote:

now this is a real ending lol

Now that is an ending that I approve of! lol

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Mxyzptlk wrote:
kalapkaki wrote:

now this is a real ending lol

Now that is an ending that I approve of! lol

bwahahah awesome ending and in the background you see locke and ben on the "dark side" and jack on the good side wink

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kalapkaki wrote:

now this is a real ending lol

Lol i want a Spin off of lost, showing the island before the events in lost would be awesome.

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Like most people who have watched the entire series,  I have a mixture of emotions, the sadness and emptiness of having lost a friend that has been with me for six years.  Through those years we had our ups and downs, laughter sadness, boredom and being perplexed.   I suppose this is a reflection of how strong our friendship was.

All things considered that’s not bad given it was just a TV show....  Like all shows it had its flaws, but unlike most of the dross out there it kept me entertained, it even challenged me at times.  And in a rarity it made me think and postulate.

The final season was just as entertaining as the first.  Ending the show as it had begun showed the wry sense of humour the creators of the show had.  Did all the questions get answered, as in life they didn’t because most of us had different questions needing answers.  I think it is better to be left with some things unanswered and hence wanting more than to be told everything and be disappointed when our expectations haven’t been met or our pet theories being quashed.

I think the key message to take from the finale is to..... Let go, and move on.

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blackbox said: And I can't believe that most people (at 392 votes) haven't watched it

for my excuse i haven't watched lost(from beginning of 3th season) but i still keep myself informed about what's going on and seen random episodes. and when i got time i planning to watch last three episodes of the lost, to see the ending action(from the jacop and mib story). so i said haven't watched, but i'm still planning to.

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nivalis wrote:

you have a point mejico.
iirc, the second season also began with a closeup of an eye. maybe even third, too.

also, i hope the frequency of your posts will increase or we'll have to wait until the first sunday of 2013 before we hear from you again smile

I'll try to post more frequently, but it's hard to when so few shows will stir me from my apathy, and the shows that do,  get cancelled.

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nivalis wrote:
Hr. Ulottuvuus wrote:

all these questions you all have here on this thred, i have an answer to all of them... not kidding

ok..
1. why didnt jacob approach locke to become his successor in season 1 or even 2?
he was perfect for the job back then i think.

well jacob did approach locke when he fell down the window and broke his back... like all the other  candidates... and well jacob didn't do things that way, he didn't want to tell people what to do. all of this you got from the show if you watched it.

2. why did the smoke monster kill the pilot in the pilot?

Didn't need him. that's the basic reason why the smoke monster killed anyone. he actually said so somewhere in the last season, not in so many words, but still...


3. why did walt whisper things backwards in the rain?

backwards? don't remember that. remember him whispering tho, and he was probably the smoke monster, another look at it was that walt had a connection to the island...


also:
from http://www3.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=483486

".. according to Carlton Cuse, the executive producer.
'We hate to debunk' anyone's theory, Cuse said - though he and fellow writer Damon Lindelof have dismissed a few, including the one that posits that the characters on "Lost" are in some kind of purgatory."


also i find this very interesting:

David Fury interview Scifi.com 9/7/04

"Fury explained that realism is the key in making it all work. "What we are trying to do is make sure everything has a very Scully explanation," Fury said, referring to the X-Files character. "This is not a show about the supernatural, despite the fact that we have a very huge creature that likes to eat people. Despite the surreal, bizarre aspects of the island, there will be an explanation for it. It may not come for a very long time, but certain information about the island will explain how things are possible. We'll try to root it in real science or real pseudo-science. There will be no mystical reason or an island of monsters. The island has been around for millennia, and many people have found themselves on it, and as far as we know, nobody has ever gotten off."

what doesn't kill you - hurts even more...

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Hr. Ulottuvuus wrote:
nivalis wrote:
Hr. Ulottuvuus wrote:

all these questions you all have here on this thred, i have an answer to all of them... not kidding

also:
from http://www3.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=483486

".. according to Carlton Cuse, the executive producer.
'We hate to debunk' anyone's theory, Cuse said - though he and fellow writer Damon Lindelof have dismissed a few, including the one that posits that the characters on "Lost" are in some kind of purgatory."

That was written 4 years ago, the writers reserve the right to change their minds.  In some sense they still were truthful and the the ISLAND wasn't purgatory, Christian Shepherd explicitly said so. 
It was the Flash-sideways that was a "purgatory", so yea, still a truth, but they did end up using a purgatory elsewhere.

Go back to Sledgehammer's post, they've gotten to a point and realized the more they explain, the less satisfying it will be as compared to leaving it up to your imagination (Midichlorians, what's in Pulp Fiction's briefcase). 
That's my explanation of why some people are still not accepting the writer's explicit ending and saying it's really all in Jack's head or they all died in the plane crash or whatever.  Your own ending more satisfying to you (even if it's completely different than what's on the screen).

If you really need answers to your quesitons you can just always chock it up to it was "Jacob's Rules" (who had a twisted upbringing) or the island's powers or electromagnetism, just take your pick of explanations from there. 

Or break out to reality and realize they are just human writers who didn't have  7years of scripts pre-written so had to leave some discontinuities here and there.

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A post from a writer on the show (apparently):

Good stuff on here! I can finally throw in my two cents! I've had to bite my tongue for far too long. Also, hopefully I can answer some of John's questions about Dharma and the "pointless breadcrumbs" that really, weren't so pointless ...

First ...
The Island:

It was real. Everything that happened on the island that we saw throughout the 6 seasons was real. Forget the final image of the plane crash, it was put in purposely to f*&k with people's heads and show how far the show had come. They really crashed. They really survived. They really discovered Dharma and the Others. The Island keeps the balance of good and evil in the world. It always has and always will perform that role. And the Island will always need a "Protector". Jacob wasn't the first, Hurley won't be the last. However, Jacob had to deal with a malevolent force (MIB) that his mother, nor Hurley had to deal with. He created the devil and had to find a way to kill him -- even though the rules prevented him from actually doing so.

Thus began Jacob's plan to bring candidates to the Island to do the one thing he couldn't do. Kill the MIB. He had a huge list of candidates that spanned generations. Yet everytime he brought people there, the MIB corrupted them and caused them to kill one another. That was until Richard came along and helped Jacob understand that if he didn't take a more active role, then his plan would never work.

Enter Dharma -- which I'm not sure why John is having such a hard time grasping. Dharma, like the countless scores of people that were brought to the island before, were brought there by Jacob as part of his plan to kill the MIB. However, the MIB was aware of this plan and interferred by "corrupting" Ben. Making Ben believe he was doing the work of Jacob when in reality he was doing the work of the MIB. This carried over into all of Ben's "off-island" activities. He was the leader. He spoke for Jacob as far as they were concerned. So the "Others" killed Dharma and later were actively trying to kill Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley and all the candidates because that's what the MIB wanted. And what he couldn't do for himself.

Dharma was originally brought in to be good. But was turned bad by MIB's corruption and eventually destroyed by his pawn Ben. Now, was Dharma only brought there to help Jack and the other Canditates on their overall quest to kill Smokey? Or did Jacob have another list of Canidates from the Dharma group that we were never aware of? That's a question that is purposley not answered because whatever answer the writers came up with would be worse than the one you come up with for yourself. Still ... Dharma's purpose is not "pointless" or even vague. Hell, it's pretty blantent.

Still, despite his grand plan, Jacob wanted to give his "candidates" (our Lostaways) the one thing he, nor his brother, were ever afforded: free will. Hence him bringing a host of "candidates" through the decades and letting them "choose" which one would actually do the job in the end. Maybe he knew Jack would be the one to kill Flocke and that Hurley would be the protector in the end. Maybe he didn't. But that was always the key question of the show: Fate vs Free-will. Science vs Faith. Personally I think Jacob knew from the beginning what was going to happen and that everyone played a part over 6 seasons in helping Jack get to the point where he needed to be to kill Smokey and make Hurley the protector -- I know that's how a lot of the writers viewed it. But again, they won't answer that (nor should they) because that ruins the fun.

In the end, Jack got to do what he always wanted to do from the very first episode of the show: Save his fellow Lostaways. He got Kate and Sawyer off the island and he gave Hurley the purpose in life he'd always been missing. And, in Sideways world (which we'll get to next) he in fact saved everyone by helping them all move on ...

Now...

Sideways World:

Sideways world is where it gets really cool in terms of theology and metaphysical discussion (for me at least -- because I love history/religion theories and loved all the talks in the writer's room about it). Basically what the show is proposing is that we're all linked to certain people during our lives. Call them soulmates (though it's not exactly the best word). But these people we're linked to are with us duing "the most important moments of our lives" as Christian said. These are the people we move through the universe with from lifetime to lifetime. It's loosely based in Hinduisim with large doses of western religion thrown into the mix.

The conceit that the writers created, basing it off these religious philosophies, was that as a group, the Lostaways subconsciously created this "sideways" world where they exist in purgatory until they are "awakened" and find one another. Once they all find one another, they can then move on and move forward. In essence, this is the show's concept of the afterlife. According to the show, everyone creates their own "Sideways" purgatory with their "soulmates" throughout their lives and exist there until they all move on together. That's a beautiful notion. Even if you aren't religious or even spirtual, the idea that we live AND die together is deeply profound and moving.

It's a really cool and spirtual concept that fits the whole tone and subtext the show has had from the beginning. These people were SUPPOSED to be together on that plane. They were supposed to live through these events -- not JUST because of Jacob. But because that's what the universe or God (depending on how religious you wish to get) wanted to happen. The show was always about science vs faith -- and it ultimately came down on the side of faith. It answered THE core question of the series. The one question that has been at the root of every island mystery, every character backstory, every plot twist. That, by itself, is quite an accomplishment.

How much you want to extrapolate from that is up to you as the viewer. Think about season 1 when we first found the Hatch. Everyone thought that's THE answer! Whatever is down there is the answer! Then, as we discovered it was just one station of many. One link in a very long chain that kept revealing more, and more of a larger mosiac.

But the writer's took it even further this season by contrasting this Sideways "purgatory" with the Island itself. Remember when Michael appeared to Hurley, he said he was not allowed to leave the Island. Just like the MIB. He wasn't allowed into this sideways world and thus, was not afforded the opportunity to move on. Why? Because he had proven himself to be unworthy with his actions on the Island. He failed the test. The others, passed. They made it into Sideways world when they died -- some before Jack, some years later. In Hurley's case, maybe centuries later. They exist in this sideways world until they are "awakened" and they can only move on TOGETHER because they are linked. They are destined to be together for eternity. That was their destiny.

They were NOT linked to Anna Lucia, Daniel, Roussou, Alex, Miles, Lupidis, (and all the rest who weren't in the chuch -- basically everyone who wasn't in season 1). Yet those people exist in Sideways world. Why? Well again, here's where they leave it up to you to decide. The way I like to think about it, is that those people who were left behind in Sideways world have to find their own soulmates before they can wake up. It's possible that those links aren't people from the island but from their other life (Anna's parnter, the guy she shot --- Roussou's husband, etc etc).

A lot of people have been talking about Ben and why he didn't go into the Church. And if you think of Sideways world in this way, then it gives you the answer to that very question. Ben can't move on yet because he hasn't connected with the people he needs to. It's going to be his job to awaken Roussou, Alex, Anna Lucia (maybe), Ethan, Goodspeed, his father and the rest. He has to attone for his sins more than he did by being Hurley's number two. He has to do what Hurley and Desmond did for our Lostaways with his own people. He has to help them connect. And he can only move on when all the links in his chain are ready to. Same can be said for Faraday, Charlotte, Whidmore, Hawkins etc. It's really a neat, and cool concept. At least to me.

But, from a more "behind the scenes" note: the reason Ben's not in the church, and the reason no one is in the church but for Season 1 people is because they wrote the ending to the show after writing the pilot. And never changed it. The writers always said (and many didn't believe them) that they knew their ending from the very first episode. I applaud them for that. It's pretty fantastic. Originally Ben was supposed to have a 3 episode arc and be done. But he became a big part of the show. They could have easily changed their ending and put him in the church -- but instead they problem solved it. Gave him a BRILLIANT moment with Locke outside the church ... and then that was it. I loved that. For those that wonder -- the original ending started the moment Jack walked into the church and touches the casket to Jack closing his eyes as the other plane flies away. That was always JJ's ending. And they kept it.

For me the ending of this show means a lot. Not only because I worked on it, but because as a writer it inspired me in a way the medium had never done before. I've been inspired to write by great films. Maybe too many to count. And there have been amazing TV shows that I've loved (X-Files, 24, Sopranos, countless 1/2 hour shows). But none did what LOST did for me. None showed me that you could take huge risks (writing a show about faith for network TV) and stick to your creative guns and STILL please the audience. I learned a lot from the show as a writer. I learned even more from being around the incredible writers, producers, PAs, interns and everyone else who slaved on the show for 6 years.

In the end, for me, LOST was a touchstone show that dealt with faith, the afterlife, and all these big, spirtual questions that most shows don't touch. And to me, they never once waivered from their core story -- even with all the sci-fi elements they mixed in. To walk that long and daunting of a creative tightrope and survive is simply astounding.

Every breath you take, every move you make...I'll be watching you. That's police talk.

Re: the FINALE - thoughts

Hmm...I'm half pleased but mostly unsure about the ending.

The aspects of it that I found most compelling were the symbolic ones; Jack being stabbed in the side kind of how Christ was stabbed with a spear whilst on the cross...and the opening of the casket/tomb and finding it empty...Jack/Jesus giving himself to release everyone from hell...

I'd be interested to know more of the other religious symbolism too...surely there's some Hindu stuff there...though it's been a while since I read the Bhagavad Gita...
Maybe the symbolism was primarily Christian though...and the Dharma Wheel, Om Symbol, Yin Yang, Cross window and the Dharma initiative itself were just things to separate the explanation from having to be Christian in a more concrete way...?

Meh...I enjoyed it, but I'm happy to be done with it...the equivalent mysteries of real life are just as compelling, and more worthy of contemplation as they don't have to answer to a framework constructed to satisfy the television-viewing populace's weekly drama requirements.

-Rob

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Re: the FINALE - thoughts

here is few thoughts for ya - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eomWspUS8B0

If I were a Lost fan I would be really disappointed with the ending, but to be honest - I just don't care anymore. Still I recommend watching the video smile. Cheers.