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Richard was never the leader - just a consultant. As assumed elsewhere I also think that he arrived on the Black Rock in chains as slave. Since then he sort of protected the island and for doing so he never aged.

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kirby wrote:

Anyone else think that sayeed came back as jacob?

Ohh, now that could be very possible

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Virus1972 wrote:
kirby wrote:

Anyone else think that sayeed came back as jacob?

Ohh, now that could be very possible

I thought that was kinda obvious, then again it might be too obvious and they are trying to mislead us into thinking that.

Curse those craft writers

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i still think Jacob and the other dude (who's name we still do not know tongue) and Richard are aliens.

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Mxyzptlk wrote:

I'm thinking that Jacob and the other guy is something like Good and Evil. Or God and the Devil..

I agree with that....but I'm trying to figure who richard is in that equation.

Btw the japanese guy from Last Samurai in this ep was bad ass

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fizyk wrote:

I've just watched those two episodes and I've got one question: what just happened?
Although it was awesome episode, I wonder where did Hugo got his lucky numbers from?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythology_ … he_Numbers
... the transmission is heard by others off the Island, eventually making their way to Hurley through a fellow patient in the asylum he was in ..

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Two timelines I guess. The plane arrival in LAX can only be in 2004 while the island as we see it is the one from 2007.

Yeah, I'm guessing 2 timelines myself... And the thing with "Jacob" and "Locke, the Dark Smoke"... it's gonna be VERY interesting this season...

Aliens masquerading as gods or are they actual gods ... a time travel paradox ... I'm loving this!

I'm guessing the black smoke/faux Locke is the ancient storm god Set since the statue on the island is supposed to be Egyptian goddess Taweret who held Set back on a chain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_%28mythology%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taweret
http://www.friesian.com/paradox.htm

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godzionu wrote:

i still think Jacob and the other dude (who's name we still do not know tongue) and Richard are aliens.

whoa matrim. nice work. so i'm the only one supporting my own theory?

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godzionu wrote:
godzionu wrote:

i still think Jacob and the other dude (who's name we still do not know tongue) and Richard are aliens.

whoa matrim. nice work. so i'm the only one supporting my own theory?

The SF fan in me favours aliens but I loved mythology as a kid so I'm happy either way.  I won't be suprised if there is a the cult of Taweret that arranged the Black Rock ship's mission to the island and is among those gun toting survivors of the 2nd plane crash.  Those survivors being still in play on the island (& perhaps the hatch) is a paradox.  Are there alternate versions of themselves who never boarded a 2nd plane that would crash?
Will wheelchair Locke show up on the island with lucky Hurley? smile

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There's a load of stuff from last season about Jacob and who he might be. All conjecture of course!

I think we finally agreed that we thought Jacob and the OGD (other godly dude) were gods, but I do like godzionus theory too.

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http://www.csicop.org/si/show/multivers … ckberries/
another interesting read for SF junkies

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the thing about mythology is that it could be very well derived from the encounters of alien spieces big_smile

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matrim wrote:
fizyk wrote:

I've just watched those two episodes and I've got one question: what just happened?
Although it was awesome episode, I wonder where did Hugo got his lucky numbers from?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythology_ … he_Numbers
... the transmission is heard by others off the Island, eventually making their way to Hurley through a fellow patient in the asylum he was in ..

Well yes, transmission was heard, but in the time line where they crashed on island. In the new one, the island seems to be sunk. Since that fellow patient heard those numbers 16 years before crash, that would be around 1988. The incident or explosion that sunk the island in new time line happened in seventies... So my question again, how did Hurley won on the lottery if the numbers haven't got the chance to make into Simms ears and he probably never got crazy because of them? he isn't that lucky, is he? wink

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matrim wrote:
wckiller wrote:
BlackBox wrote:

Two timelines I guess. The plane arrival in LAX can only be in 2004 while the island as we see it is the one from 2007.

Yeah, I'm guessing 2 timelines myself... And the thing with "Jacob" and "Locke, the Dark Smoke"... it's gonna be VERY interesting this season...

Aliens masquerading as gods or are they actual gods ... a time travel paradox ... I'm loving this!

I'm guessing the black smoke/faux Locke is the ancient storm god Set since the statue on the island is supposed to be Egyptian goddess Taweret who held Set back on a chain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_%28mythology%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taweret
http://www.friesian.com/paradox.htm

on the aliens masquerading as gods issue: isn`t it the same thing as being gods? what`s the diffenrence? if they can manipulate there sorroundings better then we can dosen`t that basicaly make them gods?....soryy recently watched The 4th kind>:)

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I haven't see aliens really proposed before, its not that I don't like sci fi with aliens, I just think it will be a bit of a cop out for lost, they don't seem to belong. I much prefer the idea that Jacob and the other guy are old Egyptian gods. For some bizarre reason that seems a bit more "realistic" to me.

And yes I realise that by saying that Egyptian Gods running around manipulating time etc is more realistic than aliens makes me sound like a crazy person.

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proteinnerd wrote:

And yes I realise that by saying that Egyptian Gods running around manipulating time etc is more realistic than aliens makes me sound like a crazy person.

Actually no - that would make sense smile But I don't like that idea either. Egyptian gods were already used quite often and to the extreme in Stargate. I would rather like a supernatural approach. What people/The Others think of that and why there are statues and tempel is another thing.

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Maybe the island is a reallllllly old version of SGAs Atlantis...?

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Maybe the island is a reallllllly old version of SGAs Atlantis...?

a beta version?

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fizyk wrote:

Well yes, transmission was heard, but in the time line where they crashed on island. In the new one, the island seems to be sunk. Since that fellow patient heard those numbers 16 years before crash, that would be around 1988. The incident or explosion that sunk the island in new time line happened in seventies... So my question again, how did Hurley won on the lottery if the numbers haven't got the chance to make into Simms ears and he probably never got crazy because of them? he isn't that lucky, is he? wink

http://lost.wikia.com/wiki/Hugo_%22Hurley%22_Reyes

Add it to the list of time travel paradoxes ...

I'll have to hide behind the “The Many Worlds Interpretation” (MWI) in response to your argument since I'm not sure in which 'when' or 'where' the 2nd plane crash survivors with faux Locke are walking around in ... I assumed that was the present despite the under water island clip. I guess I'll have to watch the episode again.

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"Godly Locke" and Jack and Co. obviously are on the Island in the same time.... And the landed plane I'd say is 2007...

Although: I do wonder where Jack's Dad is in the "Plane did not Crash" timeline...

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godzionu wrote:
Halo2 wrote:

Maybe the island is a reallllllly old version of SGAs Atlantis...?

a beta version?

I was thinking more Alpha? tongue

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Assume the brace position everyone, this season is full steam ahead!

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These writers, they realy have twisted minds tongue

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These writers, they realy have twisted minds tongue

indeed.

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