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Peter has no reason...but Future Peter might...since he'd know why Bennet and the Company want to keep Powers secret from the public too.

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Nope, Peter and Nathan aren't Hiro and Peter. They talk before trying to kill each other. As shown after Peter cracks the safe.
And even Peter (or was it Nathan) said he'd never hurt me, or something.

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I had a feeling when I watched it that it could be Nathan's father. I'm not convinced he's dead and it could be a good way of bringing him into the series as a villain.

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I'm also not convinced their father is dead.

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Finally caught up.

Damn, there are some things that are very wrong with the show at the moment and I can't see them improving.

Claire/Adam's blood bringing people from the dead. God. That has to be the worst decision ever. They need to do something to limit it's effects. And fast.

Peter is just plain broken atm. They need to kill him off fast, his character is beyond redemption at this point. He should have all of Syler's powers plus all the other ones, yet he's a fucking retard.

I really hope they take some actions and bring the magic back. It's still not lost quality crap but is getting there fast.

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i think ur being too extreme bro...its not THAT bad - they have made some mistakes, but its not terrible - far from it in fact.

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I don't see why Peter should have Sylars powers... Sylar didn't have them in the first place, so it's feasible that Peter can't take them because of this.

And I agree, I think Peter's Dad could still be alive. After all, like I have stated previously, why blur his face in the photo of the company.

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Agreed about the miracleBlood(tm) being lame. Also, they need to stop making disappointing endings to their stories...

1. Peter grabbing the vial at the last second was rediculous. He didn't even know Hiro had teleported Adam away, let alone that the vial was about to hit the floor. It was pretty cheap

2. Claire is so much better when she is being a badass. Like at the start of S1 when she's jumping from great heights etc. Whenever she gets mushy she's so dull...

3. (Quite a lot of hope for this one, seeing how they left it) Just get rid of Nikki, Nathan and Mohinder. Seriously. Awful actors, coupled with total chiché characters is a deadly combination.

4. No more stupidity on the Sylar front. The episode with his mom was the worst writing I've seen this side of the end of Prison Break season 2

5. Why am I numbering these?

I like Heroes. I do. I just with that Joss Whedon or someone else was in charge it...

If this post is too negative then I apologise, I just had to get this off my chest..

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None of them live to thier full potential, apart from sylar. Thats why it makes it so unrealistic (apart from the fact that they have powers).

The bit that annoyied me the most was peter wandering around with adam, he read everyones minds to get answers, apart from adams! Where he just wimpered and beleived some of the worst put together lies i have ever heard in my life. NOONE in the world is as gulible as peter, its ridiculus, he rivals 5 year olds, i wouldnt be suprised if he still beleived in santa.

He comes up against hiro, a person hes known to be a complete angel and always wants to save everything, yet his first reaction is to stop him, not listen to him.

What the hell is mohindur doing? Saved 3 people yay yay yay. Oh woops but let a MASS murderer go with ALL of his powers! Success, the retard didnt even try and move to counter sylar when lightning woman zapped him. And what a freak character lightning woman is anyway, shes seemingly grown up the most angelic child ever, most girls rebel against thier parents and get an attitude problem, yet she wants to impress daddy as much as possible. Most daughter find out such things about thier fathers would be zapping them into oblivion, not jumping at the first time to impress.

Bennet is dead oh no this is terrible i cant believe it, 1 episode later, HEY CLEAR IM BACK YAY!

I KNOW WHAT WE WILL DO, we'll make a big SHOCK death at the end, because thats guna make REAL impact with the viewers knowing that the guy standing over his dead body can heal him if he just bleeds all over him.

Oh and, WHO THE HELL, discusses thier big future plans in the middle of enemy central vault anyway. Partman superb cop surely should have known thier would be a CAMERA in a VAULT.

And tbh, they have made an invunerable character, peter, he has the power to move through walls making himself intouchable, he should just turn that on forever, now only his feet can be hurt (he has to stay on the floor still) but they heal immediatly. He can even be invisible while doing it.

Something you can see touch or hurt in the right place to kill, that can fire lightning bolts, control time and all objects and even your mind. Hes guna need killing off at some pt me thinks.

Last episode was dreadful, they turned all the characters into blithering idiots so that it would all fit together.

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I especially enjoy watching interviews with "Heroes" cast members talking about how complex and deep their characters are, and how 'character-driven' the show is. Check it out, seriously... in any interview with a Heroes cast member, those two things WILL be among the talking points. Almost always.... yeah,yup... you know what I'ma talkin' about dontcha.

The good old "Repeat-it-until-it-becomes-the-truth" variety of promotion.

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god this post is going on and on, didnt read them all but thought i would add my thoughts,

1. peters father clearly has the power that peter has, or he did do. obviously he killed himself because he was becoming too dangerous, as peter will be one day

2. his mothers power is the dreaming thing that peter shows in the opening episode and throught first season, makes sence that is where his first power came from

3. the hatian seems to have two powers, wipe minds and stop people using their powers, surprised nobody is talking about this

4, when sylar is captured by he company they look over him and can only find his ability to use telekinesis, this explains why peter did not aquire his other abilities

5. peter can absorb powers by being near someone, they dont need to use them, Ted wasnt using his when he absorbed it,

6, when peter is close to someone he inadvetantly used their powers, not sure why this happened, but he was initially unable to use invisibility without claudes presence

7. sylar doesen't absorb powers, he obviously takes something from the person which means he can use the power, he is not peter

8. jessica is a mutiple personality, nicki created her because she didn't have it in her to fight back, nicki
does have the power but doesnt use it right away because she doesnt think she can fight

9. The hatian may take away adam and clairs ability to heal, not disputing it as i have no evidence to the contrary. but if that were the case he would have to stay using his power forever just to stop them from healing, and obviously they cant be killed

10 peter doesn't have a photographic memory, he will obviously have 100s of powers, but without knowing what they are or how to activate them, they are not going to get used, remeber he would use them by chance sometimes and only in the presence of the person who they belonged to,

just a few points from actual facts in the show, not made up stuff, people should actually watch the show rather than jump the gun and create their own ideas

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ensabrenur wrote:

3. the hatian seems to have two powers, wipe minds and stop people using their powers, surprised nobody is talking about this

If you bothered to read previous posts, this matter has been discussed. I personally think they are the same thing. He makes people forget how to use their powers (note, not actually making people forget they have them).

ensabrenur wrote:

6, when peter is close to someone he inadvetantly used their powers, not sure why this happened, but he was initially unable to use invisibility without claudes presence

That's not completely true, yes he does sometimes but not all the time.

ensabrenur wrote:

just a few points from actual facts in the show, not made up stuff, people should actually watch the show rather than jump the gun and create their own ideas

As I said in another thread...
People should actually have the decency to read other people opinions/posts before shooting them down.
This is a "discussion" thread, not a "fact" thread so there's absolutely nothing wrong with sharing ones own ideas with the rest of the forum.

ensabrenur wrote:

1. peters father clearly has the power that peter has, or he did do. obviously he killed himself because he was becoming too dangerous, as peter will be one day

Your totally right! Just because that statement it totally based on facts from watching! roll

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Halo2 wrote:
ensabrenur wrote:

3. the hatian seems to have two powers, wipe minds and stop people using their powers, surprised nobody is talking about this

If you bothered to read previous posts, this matter has been discussed. I personally think they are the same thing. He makes people forget how to use their powers (note, not actually making people forget they have them).

ensabrenur wrote:

6, when peter is close to someone he inadvetantly used their powers, not sure why this happened, but he was initially unable to use invisibility without claudes presence

That's not completely true, yes he does sometimes but not all the time.

ensabrenur wrote:

just a few points from actual facts in the show, not made up stuff, people should actually watch the show rather than jump the gun and create their own ideas

As I said in another thread...
People should actually have the decency to read other people opinions/posts before shooting them down.
This is a "discussion" thread, not a "fact" thread so there's absolutely nothing wrong with sharing ones own ideas with the rest of the forum.

ensabrenur wrote:

1. peters father clearly has the power that peter has, or he did do. obviously he killed himself because he was becoming too dangerous, as peter will be one day

Your totally right! Just because that statement it totally based on facts from watching! roll

in my post about peters father i said clearly he has the same power as peter, as that is the obvious outcome in my view, i do not say that it is a fact, clearly you are just looking to troll the forums looking for an argument, like most losers

see what i did there i said clearly, because i don't actually know if thats true, but the likelyhood is that it is true

now instead of just looking for an arguement why dont you reply with something that can perhaps be discussed,

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Agreed about the miracleBlood(tm) being lame. Also, they need to stop making disappointing endings to their stories...

1. Peter grabbing the vial at the last second was rediculous. He didn't even know Hiro had teleported Adam away, let alone that the vial was about to hit the floor. It was pretty cheap

2. Claire is so much better when she is being a badass. Like at the start of S1 when she's jumping from great heights etc. Whenever she gets mushy she's so dull...

3. (Quite a lot of hope for this one, seeing how they left it) Just get rid of Nikki, Nathan and Mohinder. Seriously. Awful actors, coupled with total chiché characters is a deadly combination.

4. No more stupidity on the Sylar front. The episode with his mom was the worst writing I've seen this side of the end of Prison Break season 2

5. Why am I numbering these?

I like Heroes. I do. I just with that Joss Whedon or someone else was in charge it...

If this post is too negative then I apologise, I just had to get this off my chest..

wouldnt say it was negative but Joss Whedon taking over?, Buffy was nothing but Cliche's lol, and i will not have anyone insult the genius that is prison break smile

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ensabrenur wrote:

i do not say that it is a fact

I'm only replying to what you stated in your original post.

ensabrenur wrote:

1. peters father clearly has the power that peter has, or he did do. obviously he killed himself because he was becoming too dangerous, as peter will be one day
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just a few points from actual facts in the show, not made up stuff, people should actually watch the show rather than jump the gun and create their own ideas

And if it was an idea, then you clearly don't like your own medicine of being shot down when bringing an idea to the discussion.



ensabrenur wrote:

just looking to troll the forums looking for an argument, like most losers

No.

ensabrenur wrote:

something that can perhaps be discussed,

And as for contribution to this...
We've not really had any hard evidence that powers are related to the parents... Claire can heal, her [biological] mother can control fire (and by the looks of it, she can stand fire/heat too), while her Dad can fly. The same with Nikki/Jessica/Tracey/Gina, DL and Mica.
But obviously there is no evidence to it not being true, so it might be the case of course.

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Matt and his father have the same power so its not a far cry, also claude mentions that peter is "one of them" suggesting he has met someone with peters powers before, and he did work for the company

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ok more confused now, when did matts father get back in the picture, and is hiro really that inept. did he really kill ando, course he didnt but what series of events led upto this.

least we know who the big bad is

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ok so peters father stole peters powers, and adam munroe's by the look of things, guess its a bit similar to peters power but he actually steals powers, how come if he is that powerful did he end up in a situation where he was bed ridden, if he worked for the company why didnt he just take all the powers from the guys in level 5 if they wanted to remove powers.

great story but too many conflicting arguments
/discuss

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ok ok complete theory of mine but does anyone think that nathan almost revealing he had powers has something to do with the storyline going the way it is now, peter tried to stop it but he just slowed it down a bit.

by that i mean maury being told by petrelli to focus his son on pursuing other things

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its getting more and more confusing. episode 7 was not that great. tho this season has been generally good.

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ensabrenur wrote:

ok so peters father stole peters powers, and adam munroe's by the look of things, guess its a bit similar to peters power but he actually steals powers, how come if he is that powerful did he end up in a situation where he was bed ridden, if he worked for the company why didnt he just take all the powers from the guys in level 5 if they wanted to remove powers.

great story but too many conflicting arguments
/discuss

I want to know what Arthur Petrelli had over Matts father and the others, he/they appeared scared witless of Arthur, why as Dad Petrelli's power seems to work by physical touch, being bed ridden & reliant of others makes his power useless. Or is it just the plain old tried and true method 'MONEY TALKS'. i.e. everybody can be bought for a price.

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Episode 8 is full of continuity errors, if ur goina do a flashbacky episode at least make sure it fits in with other flashback episodes, at least thats what i think they should have done

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wow...episode 9 is finnaly showing some reason...
the bad guys start being bad and orginized under papa pettrelli
the good guys start being good and getting organiazed by mama pettrelli
sylar is bad again
peter is good again
NICE!!!
the director PROMISED that this season is going to get clearer and better
and he delievers

IT"S COMING!!!!
(hero as a 10 year old is kind of a dumb idea...but atleast they haven't made him powerless like peter)

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Altryne wrote:

wow...episode 9 is finnaly showing some reason...
the bad guys start being bad and orginized under papa pettrelli
the good guys start being good and getting organiazed by mama pettrelli
sylar is bad again
peter is good again
NICE!!!
the director PROMISED that this season is going to get clearer and better
and he delievers

IT"S COMING!!!!
(hero as a 10 year old is kind of a dumb idea...but atleast they haven't made him powerless like peter)

Gotta disagree with everything you said there, Sylar is a pansy now, he used to be interesting now there like oh wait, you didn't have to kill anyone you could just take there powers.

i dont like this storyline now its getting rediculess

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Elle = more and more interesting.
Sylar = lamer and lamer
Claire & Claire's biological mom = potential for interestingness
Hiro as a 10 year old = the stupidest thing to happen on the show yet
Parkman and Speedster = Not bad, but the speedster needs something to make her more interesting personality-wise.
African Precog = one of my favourites...hopefully he gets brought back(but then, I hoped that for Isaac too)*
Papa Petrelli = nice & evil. It would help if they'd establish a well developed motive for him though.
Angela Petrelli = Of the group photo gang she's got the most potential to be really dynamic.
Peter = So tired of scenes with him and Claire. He's interesting when he interacts with every character but Claire.
Nathan = Pretty boring lately...besides the fact that he's flying more.
Nikki v3.0 = not as good as Nikki 1.0 and 2.0, but still okay
Flint and the Fear dude = not bad for Thugs...though the fear guy doesn't strike me as someone who would work with a thick skulled moron like Flint. I'd enjoy them better working solo than as a team.
Maya = I hope we never see her again
Mohinder = His latest experiment guy looked pretty cool. I'm on the fence with Mohinder though...he could turn into something cool, but so far he's remained pretty boring.
Bennett = the only character on the show that has remained interesting from the start.
Adam Munroe = Bring him back!


*the fact that everyone is getting a turn at being a precog is kinda lame though

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