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Yeah, that whole scene with Nathan escaping was kinda weird to me. I mean how could they "forget" that he had powers too, when everything else was so precisely planned? But I agree with you that the Haitian's power isn't constantly on. Otherwise he'd be wiping people's memories left and right. wink

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I can see the point of view that the haiten supresses the power to absorb.

Does the haiten have to inntiate his power or is it just like a field around him?

We know for a fact peters absorb power isnt controllable, so that must be just some kind of field that absorbs everything inside of it.

Doing some more thought i came to the conclusion that the haiten has to innitiate his power on a specific target or targets, because later on in that episode the lightning woman uses her power right next to him.

Which means that if peter can get close enough to the haiten without him realise, he can zap away his power. He might not have it yet, but maybe he will infuture! That would make him completely unstoppable though.

Im probly reading to much into it but i enjoy doing so!

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Well, the point I was just making is that someone said that there's only one person who can take the Haitians power, they were wrong as Peter should be able to absorb it too, as it's not always "on". He could have the ability already but not know it I suppose.

On the memory wiping side, this needs physical contact (as in the cupped hand over the eyes) to initiate, but the power suppression ability is definitely controlled/directed by him and not a general radius thing.

On the topic of Angela Petrelli... I was watching the last few episodes of season one today, and I think her power is definitely persuasion (more of the convincing side though), she constantly convinces Claire (by touching on the arm) that she should leave.
But it's not a constant thing, as at the end we all know Nathan saves the day by whisking Peter away, but why didn't Angela try to stop Nathan (I think may be more to do with guilt on her part). There's other examples too (again with the arm touching) though out the few episodes I watched.

Peter and D.L. met in this episode also (I can't remember if they have met before), and it was the only time (again that I can remember) they have met. D.L. didn't use his ability (phasing through walls) in front of Peter (nor I doubt Peter knows about it). But none the less Peter absorbs it (clearly seen from the latest Heroes episode where he helps Adam escape), so in a way we don't know how many other powers he has... He could also have Elle's (and maybe Bob's) powers too as he was in contact with her (but I'm not sure about Bob) when stopped taking his medication for suppressing his powers.
Peter also met Micah in the season one finale so he could also have his technopathy ability too.

And one last thing. Can Peter take Sylar's power? (His direct power is a intuitive understanding of how things work). Or can he only take Sylar's other obtained powers too, ie telekinesis (Peter has already demonstrated this of course), liquefaction, enhanced hearing, freezing objects etc...

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Oh and did Hiro's Dad have powers too?

This is just a stab in the dark, Could Hiro's Dad's power be - the gift of Accelerated learning. re:- when Hiro's Dad instructed him how to use the  Kensei/Adam sword.

Or did Hiro's Dad freeze/fold time himself to compress months of instruction into (not sure how long Hiro's mate was waiting outside) a short moment.

As Hiro's seems extremely confident when he leaves to deal with Syler Season 1 Final.

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^^ have to agree with the above, think it would more be Accelerated learning, plus he was a CEO of a large company so that would make sense aswell

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Do you mean more he has accelerated teaching? By that I mean, teaching Hiro quickly.

He was pretty old, and learn to uses a sword takes a long time yes, but at his age (I'd say ~65) if he started learn the art young (~mid-teens), he could easily be as skilled as he was shown in that large period of time (~50 years).
[I've guessed the ages by going on the lines that Nathan was born around 1970 (just before Vietnam), so she's between 55 and 65. And that Nakumura is a bit older than her.]

I'd be more inclined to go for Hiro's Dad being able to alter the speed of time to be honest. Then he could take a month teaching Hiro, while only a few hours past outside. Or of course Hiro could of done it.
Either way, we might find out eventually what his power, if any, he had.

EDIT:
Someone asked for a screen cap of the original 12 of the company.
http://bp3.blogger.com/_R50zu6H13A0/RyanK_1wHJI/AAAAAAAAAYA/OaQHFGWRMSo/s1600/Heroes-Picture.jpg

It's odd how Angela Petrelli's husband, Arthur Petrelli, face is blurred.
From what I know (L-R, T-B):
Shoulder of unknown woman 1, Daniel "Mr." Linderman, Arthur Petrelli, Angela Petrelli, Kaito Nakamura, "Bob", Unknown woman 2, Maury Parkman.
Unknown woman 3, Charles Deveaux, Unknown man 1, Unknown man 2.

I was thinking unknown woman 2 could be Matt Parkman's mother, but I somehow doubt that... She might be Bob's wife that would be my other guess.
And also unknown woman 3 could be Charles Deveaux wife...

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Do you mean more he has accelerated teaching? By that I mean, teaching Hiro quickly.

He was pretty old, and learn to uses a sword takes a long time yes, but at his age (I'd say ~65) if he started learn the art young (~mid-teens), he could easily be as skilled as he was shown in that large period of time (~50 years).
[I've guessed the ages by going on the lines that Nathan was born around 1970 (just before Vietnam), so she's between 55 and 65. And that Nakumura is a bit older than her.]

I'd be more inclined to go for Hiro's Dad being able to alter the speed of time to be honest. Then he could take a month teaching Hiro, while only a few hours past outside. Or of course Hiro could of done it.
Either way, we might find out eventually what his power, if any, he had.

EDIT:
Someone asked for a screen cap of the original 12 of the company.
http://bp3.blogger.com/_R50zu6H13A0/Rya … icture.jpg

It's odd how Angela Petrelli's husband, Arthur Petrelli, face is blurred.
From what I know (L-R, T-B):
Shoulder of unknown woman 1, Daniel "Mr." Linderman, Arthur Petrelli, Angela Petrelli, Kaito Nakamura, "Bob", Unknown woman 2, Maury Parkman.
Unknown woman 3, Charles Deveaux, Unknown man 1, Unknown man 2.

I was thinking unknown woman 2 could be Matt Parkman's mother, but I somehow doubt that... She might be Bob's wife that would be my other guess.
And also unknown woman 3 could be Charles Deveaux wife...

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hey halo2 i was the one who asked for the pic but when I click on the link it says not found? maybe coz im in austrlaia could you post the pic?

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sorry just got it thanks but where is Adam isn't he surpose to be in that pic didn't bob adam stared it all?  To many questions?

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Also how did you know that the man between linderman and angela petrelli is old man petrilli looks alot like adam if you ask me?

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It actually makes a shit load of sense for Adam to be Peter/Nathan's father. That way Claire with her blond hair and regenerative ability would be his grand daughter.

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Well, he is Arthur Petrelli (regardless of being Adam or not) and I very much doubt he's Adam since Linderman saved his life (using his ability) in Vietnam... So if he was Adam he couldn't be hurt, and Linderman wouldn't need to save his life...
And anyway, Peter would recognise his father as Adam... He only died around a year before the start of Heroes.

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That would mean that Adam died and then regenerated back to his young self. That what you meant? Sounds kinda strange that his ability, that gives eternal (or atleast a VERY long) life could be turned off, so to speak, but I guess it could happen. But why would he have chosen to age?

It would explain Claire's haircolor and power, though..

I don't know anymore. Everytime I seen to have this show figured out, you guys find something I missed, and I'm confused again.

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If you asking me what I meant, then, no I didn't mean that... I don't see how Adam could be Arthur Petrelli full stop... They'd be pictures of Arthur as a younger man (they were married for about 40 years), and if he was Adam then Peter would still recognise him.

Adam could be Linderman (as well as being able to heal himself he could heal others... We know he can do it with his blood). That would explain Adam's absence in the photo (well, not absence...). Of course then there are lots of counter arguments to that... Such as Adam was in prison with Peter and said he had been for 30 years. And the big one, how did Linderman change his appearance to be 35 years younger (though we know he can heal things...)
But as I said there are so many counter arguments it's hard to say that.

We'll find out a lot more in tomorrow's episode at any rate.

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I was asking Arashi and you just happened to post before me. smile I don't think Adam is in that picture in any form because wasn't he , as you say, in prison for 30 years.

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Perhaps Adam was the one taking the photograph.

Halo2 wrote:

Do you mean more he has accelerated teaching? By that I mean, teaching Hiro quickly.

Yer, what you said hmm

Didn't Angela Petrelli confess to someone she was having a long running fling with Kaito Nakamura. However the Adam being DAD sounds more feasible.
Arthur Petrelli could also be a strong possibility tongue

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Perhaps Adam was the one taking the photograph.

Halo2 wrote:

Do you mean more he has accelerated teaching? By that I mean, teaching Hiro quickly.

Yer, what you said hmm

Didn't Angela Petrelli confess to someone she was having a long running fling with Kaito Nakamura. However the Adam being DAD sounds more feasible.
Arthur Petrelli could also be a strong possibility tongue

Arthur Petrelli cant be Adam, if you look at the pic, Arthur Petrelli is wearing glasses...Adam doesn't wear glasses. So unlikely that he is Peters dad.

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Lol, but people can wear glasses as a disguise... tongue But Adam wouldn't need glasses anyway because he can heal, so he could fix his eyes...

None the less Adam is not Arthur Petrelli for the reasons I have already mentioned. But the significance of his face being blurred must be important, otherwise why would the writers hide his face!? wink

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turk182 wrote:

I thought that jessica/nikkia/gina couldnt control her power and created asplit personality to control it.. think thats what i gathered from the last episode when bob was talking to her but i could be wrong

When did jessica/niki/gina - become or add the Gina persona?
Wikipedia grab:

Niki Sanders (Ali Larter), (season 1, season 2), a former internet stripper from Las Vegas who exhibits superhuman strength and a multiple personality disorder one of whom goes by the name of Jessica, the name of her dead sister. Another personality is Gina.

I've never noticed this persona before. and until reading Wikipedia I was also wondering What happen to D.L.

Wikipedia wrote:

Generations - D.L.'s death

After the events in "How to Stop an Exploding Man", Bob from the The Company approaches Niki in fear other personalities may emerge. She refuses his treatment so that she can be with Micah and D.L., who survived Linderman's attacks. She begins taking medicine, but it comes with side effects. After being unable to celebrate with Micah on his birthday, she throws out the remaining pills and begins to return to her normal self. On what is meant to be her first day of work at a new job, Gina, a new personality appears, sealing Niki away. When D.L. tracks down Gina in L.A., whom he believes to be Jessica, she is dancing with another man. Upon seeing D.L., Niki returns. The two begin to leave, exchanging declarations of love for each other, when the same man dancing with Gina shows up and suddenly shoots D.L., killing him.

Was I asleep AGAIN or did this not get screened.????? If so what episode was it.

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nightcrow wrote:
hometimenow wrote:

Arthur Petrelli could also be a strong possibility

Arthur Petrelli cant be Adam, if you look at the pic, Arthur Petrelli is wearing glasses...Adam doesn't wear glasses. So unlikely that he is Peters dad.

Bit of a jumble up there 'A' smile
- I actually meant the more obvious one
Arthur Petrelli - is the Dad of his own Children Nathan/Peter.
(he actually looks more like HRG man in this photo, but im pretty sure thats not the case)

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well that ep(today) made a lot of sense, cleared up alot of things for me, so does that mean claire might stay the same current age forever ?

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hometimenow wrote:
turk182 wrote:

I thought that jessica/nikkia/gina couldnt control her power and created asplit personality to control it.. think thats what i gathered from the last episode when bob was talking to her but i could be wrong

When did jessica/niki/gina - become or add the Gina persona?
Wikipedia grab:

Niki Sanders (Ali Larter), (season 1, season 2), a former internet stripper from Las Vegas who exhibits superhuman strength and a multiple personality disorder one of whom goes by the name of Jessica, the name of her dead sister. Another personality is Gina.

I've never noticed this persona before. and until reading Wikipedia I was also wondering What happen to D.L.

Wikipedia wrote:

Generations - D.L.'s death

After the events in "How to Stop an Exploding Man", Bob from the The Company approaches Niki in fear other personalities may emerge. She refuses his treatment so that she can be with Micah and D.L., who survived Linderman's attacks. She begins taking medicine, but it comes with side effects. After being unable to celebrate with Micah on his birthday, she throws out the remaining pills and begins to return to her normal self. On what is meant to be her first day of work at a new job, Gina, a new personality appears, sealing Niki away. When D.L. tracks down Gina in L.A., whom he believes to be Jessica, she is dancing with another man. Upon seeing D.L., Niki returns. The two begin to leave, exchanging declarations of love for each other, when the same man dancing with Gina shows up and suddenly shoots D.L., killing him.

Was I asleep AGAIN or did this not get screened.????? If so what episode was it.

Those happened in the episode "Four Months Ago... " s02e08.

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well that ep(today) made a lot of sense, cleared up alot of things for me, so does that mean claire might stay the same current age forever ?

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Veronica Mars was suuuuch a dynamic character that it's been a real shame seeing Kristen Bell play such a one dimensional character...today's episode set the stage for her to become more of a dynamic character with the depth of character that a talented actress like Kristen should be playing...

Suresh's turn to the dark side...I'm not convinced that he'd pull the trigger, since he still has quite a bit of integrity...but oh well...I've read enough comic books to be able to shrug off bad writing once in a while.

No Syler this ep! Yay! I'm getting kind of bored with him and the Mexicans...the 3 of them all get kind of tired after a while...can't wait until they make it to NY.

No Peter in this ep...which kinda sucked...but things with him will be all the more intense once we see him teamed up with Adam.

ADAM! yeah, now that's a dynamic villain...a soul so tortured that he'd spend 400 years plotting his revenge! eat that Sylar! you freakin' sociopath without a personality! Adam ftw!

...Hiro and Kaito...that was cool...but I'd like to see Kaito come back at some point...maybe Hiro could go back in time to see him periodically in order to get filled in on important details...but then again, that'd be the easy way to do things, and the easy way doesn't make for good tv plots...

Parkman! He's turning into his father alright...but it's going to be great seeing him try to resist that pull toward the dark side...he's already sort of abusing his powers...I hope he gets a handle on his sense of temptation...he started off as such a virtuous guy....(but then, seeing heroes fall makes for interesting plots too - let's just hope they don't ever do that with Hiro's character!)

Sweet ending with Bennet waking up! I was kinda bummed when he died...so the last scene rocked my socks.

West didn't seem like such a loser in this ep! Good for him...he's still a teenager who rides more on the thinks-he's-rational-when-he-isn't side of things...acting like he has virtue when in fact he's just a confused moron....but there's some potential there now...
I'm curious who his parents are actually...

I wonder if Bennet will have Claire's ability now...that'd be interesting.

Looking forward to seeing things unfold...though they'll probably be a bit more predictable now that they've spelled out so much for us with this episode...

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I think it may of been Adam who brought Bennet back to life... I don't know why I think this, I think it was the reaction of "What the...!" when he woke up. We don't know it was Bob and co. who did bring him back to life.

But on the topic of that... wtf, bit far stretched! If someone's dead how can you regenerate them into living a thing? Something has to be still alive to heal them. Though a counter argument (which I love with Heroes) is that when Adam/Claire/Peter die, they stay dead for ages, until the foreign object, in one case a bit of wood is removed. Then they comeback to life. I just thought that was to do with the person, but it looks like the blood does it too.

And I don't think Bennet will now have Claire's healing powers... Claire's and Adam's body produces the blood, where as Bennet's doesn't, so it won't last, if that makes any sense... (ie, blood gets used up).

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