Neagley (Page 1 of 2)

Lots of running in that trailer. Only 3 comments on YT right now, 2 of them snarky. But I love Neagley and Damon Herriman is quite an actor. He's one of those that I go, "Who *is* that guy?" and when I look him up it's "Oh, yeah! I loved him in [x]!"

I'm in.

I have Sight Line by Dan Ames, but I'm afraid to read it because I want Neagley to be Maria Sten and not the image on the cover, especially the 2nd one. Petty, I know.

i am struggling with neagely and i am on ep3.

it just is not having a grip on me to keep watching.
the storyline is not enthralling, and i just cannot find the
desire to care about the out come that much.

acting is good, like all the actors so far. at least i dont hate anyone.
writing is not as good as reacher, they are still "finding" the soul
of neagely, which always take a little work in the first season.
( reacher never had that issues they had 20+ books to work with)

but they really need to make me care about the plot about the people
and they have yet to do that.
i hope it gets better soon.

@inkblot
https://next-episode.net/generation-kill
its been on my list for a long while.

Wait... Huh?  Did you really marathon the entire first season in one night or something?

Watched (only) the first episode so far...

First half of the episode felt rather weak...didn't like the setup and what kind of story it is - but they hooked me with the second half

5 episodes in and it is just not interesting to me.
the writing is just not as good as reacher
the suspense is lacking, maybe we know too much too soon
i am not invested in the main story, the neagleys big mystery phobia cause
or the good cop trying to define himself.

maybe the subject matter is the problem,its 5 years too late for that story line.
there has been far too many "addicts used as test subjects" stories for this one to matter
the "farm" has been done to death also, and this one has no intrigue there.
"the farm" has been a  Euphemism for death since before i was born.
there is nothing here that is new, done new, done well, written well.

i will come back for season 2 to see if it works,
this one is not worth my time so far..

the actors all did fine and i hope they are back for season 2
this series needs some work though. its is b grade. at best

i dont think i can agree with you.
recently i started reading old crime story and pulp fiction books from the 30's and up
( mostly short stories and anthologies)

now the main plots are not new, but everything else is.
the rough manner of writing is far less skillful then today but its not less interesting.
the manner people talk and the way they think are like another world
( which it really is)
nothing is new in these books, but everything about the style is new, fresh, original.
(for me) the passion for the story is almost palpable

it was pulp fiction 100 years ago. but the writers put their soul into their work
their passion and experience, everything they were.

i am sure only the above average stories from a large mix of writers are in these books,
not the very best,but better then most. and it shows.

we dont see much pulp writing anymore, we see targeted polished generic copies and clones.
even the lowest writer can have AI or a editor "punch up" a story using common ( and overused) tropes.
it is easy for writers to clone the feel of other popular writers.

most of neagley feels that way to me.  soul less.

reacher may not have the same team of writers ( i will have to look)
but they feel much different the two shows.

the writing in neagley feels more like a payday then a passion
at least to me.

and i need to feel that passion in a story from the story teller.
if they are not passionate about it, why would i want to see it?

hopefully its fixed in season two.

i explained in the 3 page essay that KNOWING the plots, ploys quickly is not the issue.
( it takes me about 3 minutes to write 3 pages and 20 seconds to read it)

i will make it simple for you.
in neagley the writing is uninspired.
if you cant copy old crap and make it feel fresh
it does not matter who you get to act it out.

and poor writing is a show problem.

but if you are happy with stale bread and water. great for you.
few could live that way. fewer would want to.
everyone is different.

If you haven't already, check out
https://next-episode.net/the-terminal-list
https://next-episode.net/the-terminal-list-dark-wolf
https://next-episode.net/utopia

I do.  I'm 60 and I know my age is greatly influencing my enjoyment of most shows. I've lived through better scripts, better directing, better acting, even on low-budget sets/projects. Its impossible to like modern Trek because I lived through good Trek.  I know as soon as I see certain actors that they will be the 'surprise' bad guy because in the last 20 parts they've played that's what they were used for.  I know with 80% accuracy where the script is going for the rest of the season about 1/2 way through the first episode.

Doctors can't enjoy medical shows.
Cops can't enjoy police dramas.
And so on because they know the reality of those fields.  Same with age and history with the area of entertainment in general: Us oldies just know where its all going.  **AND** we've probably seen someone somewhere do a better job so its frustrating to see lazy work.  If you've seen Firefly or Space Above and Beyond, you know where a good sci-fi space epic could go if the writers are good and they have confidence in their own creativity. Then you see the lazy stuff but see the potential of what it could have been.  Having one's frustration level double because you've seen better is the cost of doing business as you age.

I sometimes think a combination of generational and societal upbringing.  But I feel that way for a large number of people I interact with on the 'net'.

A 60 year old, raised in the USA midwest as the fifth and final kid of a navy vet turned tradesman after the war, that was already on retirement when I entered 8th grade... raised on his job sites after school... service and patriotism and work ethic as keystones of growing up - is not going to be the same as

• A 30 year old liberal from New York

• A 50 year old from Greece

• Someone raised on a 600 acre Montana ranch

and so on.  Even two people of the same age and country are going to be wildly different in what they feel a "normal outlook" is if one was raised in L.A. and one was raised in the farmland of Illinois/Ohio.

I think of it like the idea of "Men are from Mars, women are from Venus" in that our dictionaries aren't exactly the same.  So same kinda differences between military folk, and civilians.  Americans and Brits.  etc.

There's no negativity from me about differences.  They're just differences.

Watched a few episodes. Not too cringy, neurodivergence angle excuse her rigid acting, plot holes not too bad, overall cast good. Watchable.

i am going to assume you are all so old that you do not realize that anyone over 18 years old has had 8 years of unlimited access
to every show made in the last 50 years and 3 years locked in their house where they could not go anywhere. any show better than 3 stars and much much worse has been seen by anyone with more then 20$ to pay for streaming or youtube
history and experience means little when every answer to any question is in your pocket.

if you can accept lower quality products than great for you.
and if you accept that low bar of quality, that only shows what you are ok with
the same people who make reacher made neagley.

there is zero excuse for it to be as low quality as it is today.

( unless you are cable and you are saving money to pay your pensions off before your network croaks)

no, old trek and other shows are not always better, the ducks of hazard and macgyver in the 80's was utter crap, ST-TNG only looks good compared to that low low bar of supposed quality. 23 episodes where half were acceptable 5 were great and the rest was junk.

if those old shows were so much better back then, today's generation (with full access to all those shows) would be harping on it day in and day out on social media, and if no one else, then the introverted nerds would be all over it. THEY ARE NOT. only a few people are. ( and yes there are lots of today's generation who rave about the best of yesteryear, classic movies and classic music and some tv)
people have a tendency to remember the best about things in the past because they block out the negative.
the world has moved on for good reason.
the best of today vastly outshines the best from the past.
the best that is remembered for the past was thought good because it was new back then.
there is less new today, but not less ways to bring old thing back in a new way
( the odyssey is an example of a old story being retold ( cant say "well" yet i have not seen it))
neagley is like a gasp from the past.
so many desperate attempts to reboot an old idea but done poorly
( reacher was a reboot that was done well)
mediocre at best

btw i have lived both rural and metropolitan on the west coast of north america my entire life. ( 50/50mix)
but tv has never been my life, i have never had to see a new episode of anything over being out in the world.
i have only been in a theater maybe 10 times in the last 36 years, and i do not regret it.

neagley was sub standard, in a world where fantastic is everywhere.