Star Trek: Starfleet Academy (Page 1 of 4)

I always have some hope for a Star Trek series...but from the Trailer (and poster) this looks like a high school teen drama which is not something I want from Star Trek

I only watched the second video you linked becaue the first sounds like too much of a spoiler trap.

The second video reminds me of Police Academy which I can't see really working in Star Trek but we will see

Gonna give it at least 2 episodes.

Watched the first episode imho it isn't as bad as I was expecting.

I haven't summoned the will to watch all of it yet. I'm having to sit through it in 20 minute sections before I have to stop it. But every trailer and photo looks like she's way too meek and she's afraid of being in the big chair.  Not what you want in your commanding officer.  She literally pulls in to shrink smaller when she sits in it.

You can't go into Kurtzman Trek expecting it to make sense with past Trek canon or even their own mythos. That was a huge problem with Discovery: All the existing fans saw what they did regarding sh*tting on existing canon.  No reason to expect them to stop now.  Kinda funny they are doing it to their own concepts though.

For starters: The Burn.  All the dilythium goes bang.  Ok.  Sh*t happens.  The thing is not every culture used dilythium as a power source.  As soon as The Burn happened the Romulan Star Empire, The Breen, and so on would have engulfed most of the advanced territories.  So the idea that there are any rements of Starfleet left is silly.

And that's all before the things you point out like the Discovery era magic tech where a bracelet just *makes" a phaser in your hand, or a tricorder, or or or... But now all of a sudden that doesn't exist.  Voyager had mobile holo emitters but now they don't.  WTF?

The scene with the doctor inspecting cadets and one has a parasite.  Well that's nonsense considering transporter tech has had bio filters to screen out these things since TOS and that's how away teams don't infect their ship.

As for this story being a re-hash.  Well, yeah.  Its a rehash of Gene Roddenberry's other story: Andromeda. Where the vast human empire of countless other species, falls.  And centuries later we see it being rebuilt at a grass-roots level.   Only now instead of it being "The Systems Commonwealth" and Dillon Hunt, its "Starfleet" and Holly Hunter.

Speaking of Holly Hunter: Did the actress have a stroke or something? I don't need subtitles for Klingon but I've had to turn on subtitles to understand what she's saying. I'm okay with subtitles but I know a lot of people aren't. The choice of a character THAT hard to understand is an odd one-doubly so when its the captain and should have great speeches of inspiration and negotiations etc. built in to her character.

s01e01 (have not watched s01e02 yet)
Fast take: Not as bad as I expected when viewed on whole, and I'll go ahead and watch the next one.

I'd say Dave Cullen's YouTube review of it hit the mark. It was fair with both good and bad. Its a really good piece that makes thought-out comparisons to legacy Star Trek shows on many levels such as:

• Here's what you do in a pilot

• Here's how you introduce new characters

For me especially with:

• Not the worst first episode of a show... any show really... not the worst pilot

• There was zero "Star Trek" in the story.

• At least it was a lot lighter than discovery and the other dystopian shows

• First 20 minutes were the worst.  That's why I said earlier I was having to watch it in sections.

• The immediately forgettability of the names and 90% of the characters themselves

But then for me there were other things:

• This is the best of the academy, and half of them are special ed - or they're magically brilliant beyond trained adults.  There's no middle ground.

• I can't stand the continued disrespect for existing canon whether its the half Klingon-Half Jem'Hadar, or the way they're belittling the Klingon student.  Klingons are a complete race.  They have opera, they have cuisine.  They have advanced sciences in weapons and technology.  That means they have singers, musicians, poets, cooks, scientists etc.  So when even the ship's number-one belittles him for not wanting the honorable death of a warrior that was pretty sh•t in my book.

• Try to keep things consistent within your own script.  Are the holo-emitters down or not?  There's no additional EMH staff (hinting there will be others under normal circumstances), but right now the ship emitters are down.  Then how is the pirate doing a holo transmission around the bridge?  And why would you give an enemy holo transmission physicality on your bridge just like the EMH doctor?  He physically touches the Captain's nose: He can affect things on the bridge-Like switches perhaps?

• The baiting for legacy fans with all the names and ships and species (yes you half-black/half-white girl as an easter egg from TOS) sprinkled in from previous shows was just very very obvious pandering. No subtlety at all.

• This meek Capt is already on my nerves.  She baits the heck out of the pirate then cowers when he gets in her face.  What did she expect he was going to do?  And yeah, using the captain's chair like pool deck lounger is a horrible "lead by example".

• Personal gripe for this 32nd century: I hate the magic reconfigurable ships that just magnetically recombine, and morph etc. and don't even need structural connections between engines and main body etc.

• Do you really mean for us to believe that the pirate just happened to be obsessing over this boy for the last 15 years, that he's constantly monitoring for a random communication - and that he just happened to be pre-positioned on the straight line course of the USS Athena that it would take to Earth - and that the intended course deliberately took it so close to the Badlands - and that the pirate had enough time to lay his trap - Dear gawd how thin is that?

• And this captain's quarters is (if you can believe it) even larger than Captain Pikes event venue of a suite on Strange New Worlds.

And all that is before getting in to the general nature of it being a high school drama centering on the emotional state of the kids and not about... Ya know... Star Trek and the bigger issues and stories and things Trek used to be known for addressing.

But yeah - the pilot seems to make it feel half way between the dismal Discovery and Strange New Worlds.  I do have one hope for it that I would feel puts it above SNW: It looks like it might have a plan for continuous story for the season.  Chasing one cadet's mommy might not be the best Star Trek plot... but its a story line.  At least it might not be the SNW anthology layout of 1 musical, 1 comedy, 1 romance, 1 adventure {...} but no actual story arc to connect any of the individual episodes.

And, side note, I do like the choice of actress for Number-One.  She was funny on "Bob Love Abishola" and she's funny being a drill sergeant type.  So if this is going to be a comedy Trek, at least they got someone funny.

I actually kinda liked the first 2 episodes. It doesn't appear to take itself too seriously, there are a few characters that are not my favorite, it's almost like a guilty pleasure watch, but overall yeah, decent.

It's campy and somewhat cringe at times but I mean cmon it's a star trek youth show, it always would be.

To be fair, I expected a 2/10 show with a lot of forced messaging and gayness, but to my surprise it was about 5.6/10, with gayness limited to feminine men and nothing homoerotic so far. It was kinda watchable if you just go with the flow. Will watch a few more episodes to see where it goes.

I think I just now realized what the creators of Academy were aiming at...

I think they were trying to knock off "The Orville".  That's what this feels like - a cheap knock off of that... just trying to be a comedy in space. Which explains hiring writers from Buffy and Angel and casting comedians for Star Fleet officers.

If this had been their own original show... Not trying to be Star Trek... I think it could have been better received because it wouldn't be tripping over its own legacy.

The real issues started coming through for me with the second episode.

i had real trouble watching this show.
i did not care about the introduction.
the inability of a advanced technology universe unable to find a runaway child ( EVER )
borders on ludicrous .
i kept skipping everything that was not good story or good star trek stuff
( why watch star trek for any other reason)
( the jokes were "un professional and demeaning to portraying a serous professional
every federation cadet should be, poor attempt to copy lowerdecks laughing at itself)
i skipped a lot of stuff in the first 2 episodes.
so much there is zero reason to really  label this show
"Star Trek".

it story might have worked under an original scifi moniker.
the mash up they have is just. ick.

as star trek it flopped BAD

i might be biased as i thought most of star trek discovery was also junk.
( if you want to change everything in a franchise just start a new one.
discovery was if starwars gave light sabers to storm troopers ( or the stupid zombie storm troopers))
it was a poor idea from the get go. in my view it wasted some good actors.

would have been better as a prequel  to everything as federation struggling to learn why it needs a high end academy for every race
not this rebuild after  "the burn"

this show defines " all that glitters is not gold"

I hate the character Lura Thok, too agressive, too loud.

> So, why wasn't the first episode all about 'The Burn'.
What was covered in Discovery which was more dreadful (differently dreadful?) than this.

> Not every race used dilithium for warp drive,
These writers don't come from a Star Trek background.  They don't know that.  They don't grasp how the Romulans, Breen, Tholian (etc) would use this opportunity to plunder, dominate and enslave much of The Federation territory.

This is a batch of writers from Buffy and Angel now playing in the Star Trek I.P. and the show runner using it as a vehicle for his messaging.

> or is the Klingon chap actually a woman?
I think its a guy actor.  But a skinny fuq of one.  I've been told his voice really is deep in a nearly Tony Todd way but I swear they're screwing with it.  In s01e03 especially it sounds almost like auto-tune.

Mostly - It feels like they're trying to knock-off The Orville and add teen wokeness, which is kinda ironic considering these people don't know or like Star Trek and they're trying to copy a show that was a quality homage to the good Star Trek years.

did you see the huge city where court took place? all the technogly and police and i suspect all the other add on a large court house city would have VS a 10 -12 year old boy who climbs out a window in a storm???

hell yes if i had a lobotomy i might think that it is possible that the untrained YOUNG boy would get out of the court house grounds, away from the police and security guards and sneak into a secure police space launch base ( where they have constant criminals being transported) then sneak onto a ship and still hide away on that ship long enough that it landed someplace else and then sneak out of there.

there is only so much suspension of belief i can take. and i have watched "Snowpiercer" ( which is at the same level as this)

pretending that garbage is anything but garbage just makes everything worse for everyone.
a drained lake kills everything.

This guy has already 11 videos about this "show". He tries to analyze it, is looking for some sense and is getting upset about broken traditions. Also funny how he is missing sub-sub-sub section of THE MESSAGE regarding that Klingon who don't want to be a warrior, it's about gender roles, lol. This is a classic slop on which they slapped on "Star Trek" in hopes that it will sell. Rate 3 on IMDb and move on, they warned what this is already with the poster