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1 Topic by TheFizza 2025-03-06 06:04:07 (edited by TheFizza 2025-03-06 10:04:06)
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Topic: Daredevil: Born Again
https://next-episode.net/daredevil-born-again 
Marvel's “Daredevil: Born Again” focuses on Matthew Murdock, a blind lawyer with heightened abilities. For the past year Matt has been fighting for justice through his bustling law firm, while former mob boss Wilson “The Kingpin of Crime” Fisk begins to pursue his political endeavors in New York City. When their past identities begin to emerge, both men find themselves on an inevitable collision course. Matt "Daredevil" Murdock [Charlie Cox] - A blind lawyer with superhuman senses who grew up in Hell's Kitchen, New York City, and lead a double life as a masked vigilante. Wilson “The Kingpin” Fisk [Vincent D'Onofrio] - A powerful crime lord, whom Daredevil as well as several other MCU heroes have fought before and is now running for mayor of New York City. Franklin "Foggy" Nelson [Elden Henson] - Matt Murdock's best friend and law partner. Karen Page [Deborah Ann Woll] - A former reporter and partner at the Nelson, Murdock & Page law firm as well as a former love interest of Matt Murdock's. Kirsten McDuffie [Nikki M. James] - A former New York assistant district attorney and a new law partner. Margarita Levieva [Heather Glenn] - A therapist who is currently dating Matt, who doesn't seem to share his views on vigilantism. BB Urich [Genneya Walton] - A journalist for The BB Report and the niece of Ben Urich, a journalist who Wilson Fisk had killed. Vanessa Marianna-Fisk [Ayelet Zurer] -Wilson's wife who took over his criminal empire while they were separated, leading to tension between the couple. Detective "Cherry" [Clark Johnson] - A retired New York City police officer who works with Murdock & Co. Benjamin "Bullseye" Poindexter [Wilson Bethel] - A former FBI agent who can use almost any object as a lethal projectile. He previously masqueraded as Daredevil for Fisk, before Fisk broke his back. Hector "White Tiger" Ayala [Kamar de los Reyes] - A vigilante who becomes Matt Murdock's client. Frank "The Punisher" Castle [Jon Bernthal] - A vigilante who aims to fight the criminal underworld by any means necessary, no matter how lethal the results are, following the brutal murder of his family.
Daredevil: Born Again begins several years after the events of MARVEL's Daredevil (2015–2018) and a year after blind lawyer Matt Murdock stopped his activities as the masked vigilante "Daredevil".
Just watched the first two eps and they had some clunky moments, like when Matt says, "You could say we are partners now." Which is a facepalmingly confounding statement to make about someone who is in factuality indeed your partner  It was as if someone threw in a placeholder line and just didn't remember to go back to it ooooooor it was AI written [which I don't discount since we're talking about Disney here]. That being said, and really the overall quality of MCU throughout, I don't hold bad dialogue or even confounding plot choices against this universe of stories. I'm a big comics fan so it's usually just fun to see 'em all doin' stuff. Annnnnd that's what I had here, FUN, especially in part two of the premiere. I hope this feeling continues as the series goes on and the cringe moments are kept to a minimum.
Anyone else have an opinion?
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The original Daredevil was one of the few MCU shows I've dropped midway through season two. While I've only watched the first episode of DD:reborn, it was ok, but the only bright point for me is the kingpin. The rest of the characters are mediocre, and I still hate all the romance/drama they try to bring into this TV show. So far I'd say 6/10 for me.
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Daredevil with no Daredevil
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Watched 1x1. Not bad but not great. The bad guy is not bad guy enough IMHO. Not sure if it's the actor or how they used him.
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Well, the first 5 minutes of Episode 01 were great...then it went downhill fast.
It is clear that they wanted to make a clean cut from the original show...which in general is ok, just not the way they did it - way too fast and dirty. I am really curious about how this show will (or will not) fit in with the MCU. ▼Spoiler The entrance of Daredevil, visually it looked awful - I am actually not sure if that was CGI or not? Killing Foggy... nope, didn't like that at all - killing a Legacy character in the first 10 minutes...c'mon that's a Terminator: Dark Fate-like bad decision.
At the very least that is something that should've happened at the end of Episode 01 and you start of Episode 02 with "One Year Later"...give the OG characters a proper farewell. The fighting also didn't look great. It was too clunky and didn't give me any feeling of intensity at all.
Daredevil got stabbed a dozen times and they didn't even give pause or focus on him for a second. It felt like they just wanted to get over with the old.
I guess lesser writers and stunt choreographers tried to mimic the fight scenes of the original show. The entrance of Wilson Fisk...upside down and out of focus...who thought that was a good idea?
Overall I think we had enough of Wilson Fisk, could've done without him in here.
Nevertheless, Vincent D'Onofrio is still the one and only actor I want to see playing this character. Matt in a high class law firm representing rich guys after a tragic event...hmmm doesn't that remind us a bit about what they did with Foggy back in the day? The conversation between Matt and Fisk is the second best scene in the episode. I can't help but feel their is an underlying relation between Fisk becoming the Mayor and a certain man becoming president IRL...thoughts?
I hope for some improvement with Episode 2
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Yes at that "underlying relation"... 
7 Reply by nightcrow 2025-03-07 07:51:31 (edited by nightcrow 2025-03-07 07:52:11)
8 Reply by TheFizza 2025-03-10 04:18:46 (edited by TheFizza 2025-03-18 04:01:45)
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WilliamDrakeMcGregor wrote:Well, the first 5 minutes of Episode 01 were great...then it went downhill fast.
It is clear that they wanted to make a clean cut from the original show...which in general is ok, just not the way they did it - way too fast and dirty. I am really curious about how this show will (or will not) fit in with the MCU. ▼Spoiler The entrance of Daredevil, visually it looked awful - I am actually not sure if that was CGI or not? Killing Foggy... nope, didn't like that at all - killing a Legacy character in the first 10 minutes...c'mon that's a Terminator: Dark Fate-like bad decision.
At the very least that is something that should've happened at the end of Episode 01 and you start of Episode 02 with "One Year Later"...give the OG characters a proper farewell. The fighting also didn't look great. It was too clunky and didn't give me any feeling of intensity at all.
Daredevil got stabbed a dozen times and they didn't even give pause or focus on him for a second. It felt like they just wanted to get over with the old.
I guess lesser writers and stunt choreographers tried to mimic the fight scenes of the original show. The entrance of Wilson Fisk...upside down and out of focus...who thought that was a good idea?
Overall I think we had enough of Wilson Fisk, could've done without him in here.
Nevertheless, Vincent D'Onofrio is still the one and only actor I want to see playing this character. Matt in a high class law firm representing rich guys after a tragic event...hmmm doesn't that remind us a bit about what they did with Foggy back in the day? The conversation between Matt and Fisk is the second best scene in the episode. I can't help but feel their is an underlying relation between Fisk becoming the Mayor and a certain man becoming president IRL...thoughts?
I hope for some improvement with Episode 2
Well if they are using some of the Born Again story arc here [tho much was already cannibalized in the NETFLIX version] it does call for the death of an important character for the lead. ▼Spoiler
In the comics it was Karen, sooooo I was not surprised that DISNEY+ decided to take that element of the comic arc... Nor did it come as a surprise as to who it happened to, the way the prior series adapted the DevilVerse. Am I happy about it? No, not overly... but as a storytelling element it made sense and worked well-enough for what the series seems to be doing. I'll take your word on the fighting. As a fan of foreign martial arts films, all MARVEL always looks bad. So, I never pay it any mind. I tune-in for the fun and the stories, such as they are. Speaking of which. sure this couldn't reaallllly be THE Born Again story arc, afterall much of that had been covered pretty well already. So, the fact they MARVEL chose to mine the Mayor Fisk arc for this, which includes one of the many Heroes Are Outlawed events, feels as though it might have some potential. As an aside, I do find it is rather interesting that despite this series being filmed before the election it seems to inadvertently have something to say about our currently political climate... Which is rather funny as DISNEY tries so goshdarn hard to waterdown any commentary from the source material, in some cases completely invert those elements, as with the MCU Spidy. That being as it is, I'm sure by the end all that will have washed away, as per usual. I'm with you on that upside down opening shot of Fisk, that was sooooo wild... I was like, did MARVEL let Mark Steven Johnson direct the first ep for a lark or something  My biggest quibble, however is directed at how White Tiger has been represented in his introduction to the MCU... or should I say, underrepresented. I'm not even much of a White Tiger fan... annnnd the Tiger I am a bit of a fan of, is Ava Ayala's version. But what is going on here!? Also, it feels kind of a BS thing to 'out him' the way the series does, at least IMO! The conversation between Matt and Fisk was good stuff, I have to agree there! But I'm not sure what you were expecting, this is a DISNEY+ series based in the MCU, it's not like we're watching an HBO Band of Brothers over here?! It's all basically goofy shite, which at best, comes off as a good time. I'm just happy it's more engaging than the first couple of seasons of the NETFLIX AVENGERS stuff. Though, I too hope for an uptick in the momentum of the story, they only have a few eps, and the ending of Ep 2 seemed as though the series may be about to deliver... fingers crossed!
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The Third Ep was kinda meeh, for me, afterall annnnnnd what the eff at the end... ▼Spoiler That cannot be the real Frankie C?! It's gotta be a set up Also, that has been and continues to be the oldest looking "young intern on a political campaign" I have ever seen [no fault of the actor]... but just sayin' 
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and again. ▼Spoiler A show called Daredevil without any Daredevil in it. Four episodes in and not one showing of Daredevil. They should have just called this show "Daredevil: Reborn (But not really)" Brothers! What we do in life...Echoes in Eternity!
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Yeah, 1x4 = weak episode... Had expected more! With a total of 9 eps, we're almost half way through, and it kinda feels like the show hasn't even really started yet.
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My assumption is the title is the key to it all...meaning ▼Spoiler Daredevil will be "Born Again" at the end of the Season and only show up then...which is something you can do with the 2nd part in a movie trilogy (which would still be bad) but not with a whole season of television.
Edit: Had to quote this one
▼Spoiler Fisk: I am talking about a complete structural overhall.
Rivera: That is not an option
Fisk: A total transformation. I told the people of this city I was going to come out of the gate strong. That's exactly what I am going to do.
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Rivera: With all do respect. You can't just decide something and then speak it into existence.
Fisk: And why is that, Sheila?
Rivera: This is City Government. There are processes.
Fisk: Yes, processes. I don't have much use for Red Tape.
....... It's like the writers were shadowing Donald Trump for this
Shows that deserved more runtime:
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Seriously it took sooo long to get here... I'm glad they didn't make us wait a week though. I read somewhere that the original way the series had it Daredevil Born Again didn't have Matt put on the outfit until Ep 4. That it was this information making it up the chain which had the powers that be rethink things, but I question what they rethought, as that was still pretty much the case. Right now, we're at Ep 6 and I'm rather annoyed that we have 3 left... to see DD do his thang?! I mean, percentage wise I'm pretty sure She Hulk did more fun super stuff than this mini-series. Which, if this were a regular series I would probably love that it's mostly lawyer stuff, but when this is all the viewers are informed they are going to get--Well, it seems like a lot of wasted potential... unless the last 3 Eps are the best thing the MCU has ever done, which if not impossible, seems unlikely. I'm not saying I dislike this series but I am disappointed in a lot of it, including how disrespectful it was to White Tiger. ▼Spoiler Even Ava, the character who takes on the legacy, had legit no plan... I had been expecting she would have had her uncle's amulet and it just wasn't going to work or something... but clearly, I put more thought into the story than this batch of writers, it would seem. Though we don't knows yet, the next ep could have that scene in it as a flashback. It's not over yet annnnnd I'm still interested in seeing where Born Again goes, even if it's nowhere I guess, in other words and to paraphrase Marvelites from the old letter's pages in comic books, what I'm kind of saying is: Until Cap joins the Serpent Society, MAKE MINE MARVEL!
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