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1 Topic by paisley1 2024-03-02 02:02:46 (edited by paisley1 2024-03-02 03:29:14)
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Topic: Constellation [Scifi, Drama, AppleTV+]
Constellation | Next-Episode Show Page | Official Site | Official Trailer
When a fatal accident occurs on board the International Space Station, a lone astronaut makes the heroic journey back to Earth, only to discover key pieces of her life - including her young daughter - have changed. Stars Noomi Rapace, Jonathan Banks, and James D'Arcy. Airs on AppleTV+
2 Reply by paisley1 2024-03-02 02:10:11 (edited by paisley1 2024-03-02 02:13:28)
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Re: Constellation [Scifi, Drama, AppleTV+]
An addiction of mine right now, I love the twists and turns in this psychological scifi, especially the talk with the daughter about quantum theory. Surprised there isn't a forum for it already, it's the best thing on TV right now. Do you guys remember the TV Series Seeing Things from the 80's? Reminds me of that.
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meeeh this is bad - doesnt make sense, the O2 rush and deadline? why no oxygen in the dark, does it just vanish? Plot and dialogues are completely rubbish, there is no suspense or mystery - just an erratic mindfukk script... ... canceled watching mid-ep2, fast-skipped through ep2 and ep3, no improvement... cancelled
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Bananijoe wrote:why no oxygen in the dark, does it just vanish?
▼Spoiler It probably has to do with the solar panels. It's likely that energy from them can't be stored shipwide due to damage hence things that run on electricity depend on when the sun is shining.
5 Reply by merc 2024-03-06 17:36:34 (edited by merc 2024-03-06 17:42:47)
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I know how they made this show they filmed it with real film then cut it into pieces ( spliced) then glued it all back wrong lol. I will see the show through though to see what the end is. Probably all a dream whist she is coming back to earth, or she is on a bender back on earth, or she has been abducted by aliens and they are probing her mind with VR or she is a bored housewife having fallen asleep in front of the telly dreaming having watched Star Trek or ....
6 Reply by Bananijoe 2024-03-06 18:27:44 (edited by Bananijoe 2024-03-06 18:54:59)
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LuC wrote:Bananijoe wrote:why no oxygen in the dark, does it just vanish?
▼Spoiler It probably has to do with the solar panels. It's likely that energy from them can't be stored shipwide due to damage hence things that run on electricity depend on when the sun is shining.
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▼Spoiler ^^ yepp electricity is all right, even though its unlikely to go off module by module and all at once, if current and/or voltage reach a minimum then appliances would power off - but for dramatic purposes thats absolute ok BUT: OXYGEN! If its in the room - it stays in the room! And they would transfer all air/oxygen from modules,she does not need to excess to recover batteries, into the modules she needs to access Also oxygen levels dont just drop to zero in one second and can be timed. Many electrical appliances consume little amounts of oxygen, so she would shut down everything but the necessary... on and on the nonsense goes ... so for me the scenario is extremely irritating and complete nonsense, dark=no oxygen ... made me angry because it was/is on top completely unnecessary! And she had 19h and suddenly only 5h, but only had replaced only 2 batteries? and now had 4 to go... i really dont like it when script writers and directors a so inconceivable disrespectful to viewers.... *fume* Sure there is meant to be some reality distortion, ok - but this is just BAD SCRIPT! The whole battery-plot does feel very idiotically constructed as well when i think about it, why does she need to swap them. Are they broken? If they are just not fully charged they would have all the light-time to charge them (nearly 10h)... no its just trashy and seems to assume the viewers are tinybrain idiots... disgusting
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merc wrote:I know how they made this show they filmed it with real film then cut it into pieces ( spliced) then glued it all back wrong lol.
ROFL ... yeah a possible explanation ^^ but ... even if it was all just a nightmare ... lol - characters shite, dialogues shite, drama unbearable... no hope here Poor Noomi though, think she had potential, but this might be a career killer... ^^ one good thing - this show made me realize, i need to start a black-/greylist to pre-evaluate series :-D
▼Spoiler Blacklisted: Michelle MacLaren (Director) (ok she did x-file and breaking bad - no wonder) greylisted ... darkgrey Oliver Hirschbiegel (Director) Peter Harness (Writer) Ragna Wei (Writer) Sean Jablonski (Writer)
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Is this about parallel universes and/or Quantum entanglement?
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... the word quantum was present, and yes this seems to be an intended central premise, but... well...
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when is a show built on suspence a lame duck? answer : when the viewers know what it is all about but the people in the show do not have a clue.
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I like it and I think the actors that play the daughter did a really good job.
11 Reply by merc 2024-03-21 22:16:26 (edited by merc 2024-03-21 22:22:43)
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jsday187 wrote:I like it and I think the actors that play the daughter did a really good job.
you are right. The kiddy did a great job. The show though garbage. Eps7 had me in stitches trying to keep things straight. I would like to see the out takes I bet there was lots and lots of laughter. Great out door snow . They did a good job of making it seem like a blizzard. I am surprised one more eps.
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merc wrote:The kiddy did a great job.
Kiddies, I believe is the case. If you look at the cast list there is an identical picture and surname but different first names for the girl(s) who play as Alice Ericsson-Taylor. Davina Coleman as Alice Ericsson-Taylor and Rosie Coleman as Alice Ericsson-Taylor.
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LuC wrote:merc wrote:The kiddy did a great job.
Kiddies, I believe is the case. If you look at the cast list there is an identical picture and surname but different first names for the girl(s) who play as Alice Ericsson-Taylor. Davina Coleman as Alice Ericsson-Taylor and Rosie Coleman as Alice Ericsson-Taylor.
so twins? neat
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I'm intentionally slow-pace-watching this wonderful show. 1x4 is the lastest episode I've watched, and I give the show a solid 8/10. LuC wrote:merc wrote:The kiddy did a great job.
Kiddies, I believe is the case. If you look at the cast list there is an identical picture and surname but different first names for the girl(s) who play as Alice Ericsson-Taylor. Davina Coleman as Alice Ericsson-Taylor and Rosie Coleman as Alice Ericsson-Taylor.
How weird/ cool! Do they split the money 50:50? I wonder how this came to be. Do both twins have noticeably different personalities and they wanted to use that to subconsciously trigger a "something's wrong here" feeling in the viewer?
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well the show is over.. Not a show I will ever watch again. and no 2nd series I hope. That would be just too much. And the final scene in the space station, give me strength. I dont like shows that expect me to an idiot
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merc wrote:I dont like shows that expect me to an idiot
Thank you for that, I chuckled.
17 Reply by paisley1 2024-03-28 00:51:13 (edited by paisley1 2024-03-30 18:07:44)
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Re: Constellation [Scifi, Drama, AppleTV+]
1x8 - Season finale ▼Spoiler This show hit it's stride in episode 4, then plateaued for a couple episodes, then went downhill. In 1x8 they really doubled down on the topic of accepting trauma, dealing with it, and moving on, which felt very tired and very over played, also NASA covering up the multiverse by drugging astronauts felt over played without resolve, then at the end, dead Jo from the alternate universe opens her eyes, and what, she's able to live with half her head smashed in? Is this a zombie show? And how does the whole talking to each other through the cassette player work? Was she jumping through universes? Through time too? It kinda lost me. I love that there were two Yuri Gagarins in the other room though, lolz! By far my favorite part of the ep.
18 Reply by merc 2024-03-28 09:38:40 (edited by merc 2024-03-28 09:42:43)
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This is a show for those who are bored with well made stories and spend their time looking for ( unintentional) discrepancys. It also a kids show where the grown ups are stupid and lack imagination but the kids are canny. I was hoping at the end a 3rd alternative universe would cascade and rub the lot out. The only redeeming feature - no wokiness.
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merc wrote:This is a show for those who are bored with well made stories and spend their time looking for ( unintentional) discrepancys.
I posit the opposite: this is a show for those who are bored with boring, predictable and simplistic shows.
20 Reply by merc 2024-03-28 20:37:14 (edited by merc 2024-03-28 20:48:15)
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lighton wrote:merc wrote:This is a show for those who are bored with well made stories and spend their time looking for ( unintentional) discrepancys.
I posit the opposite: this is a show for those who are bored with boring, predictable and simplistic shows.
well once you understood what it was all about ( very early on ) it was VERY predictable and any mental gymnastics needed just manipulation by the show creators, like the proverbial rat in a maze, any sensible person would just say "pass" to. It was a very simplistic show merging quantum entanglement with the multiverse theory. The last fourish of the zombie, shows the shows real credentials
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22 Reply by paisley1 2024-03-28 23:15:06 (edited by paisley1 2024-03-28 23:40:51)
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I just thought it was squandered potential, but I certainly didn't find the show simplistic, it's subject (while not original) is a complex and mind boggling one, in that... ▼Spoiler ... space travel can cause some people to become aware of an alternate reality which can be amplified by the CAL device and cause those close to it to slip into an alternate universe. It's just the tired writing of not accepting those who are different and instantly considering them crazy and forcing them to take drugs, was excessively frustrating to watch throughout. Like, people didn't respond to Jo like they would in reality, with some basic questions like, what are you experiencing? what do you believe to be true? how can we help you? how can you help yourself? what do you need?, but instead they ALL responded with judgment and lack of understanding, which just left me with a sense of annoyance at the writing. People don't just assume you're crazy then hit you with electroshock therapy, lol. Doing THAT is crazy. What I would've preferred and what I think most people were expecting was Jo returning to her real universe to be with her real daughter, then finding the wrong/misplaced Paul Lancaster, end of season 1, then spending season 2 devising a way (without the CAL in that universe of course) to send him back to his real universe, switchymaroo. That would've been awesome!!! What they did in 1x8, was create more tragedy on top of tragedy, (Fall to Fall Story Structure only works in a comedy) and left an even greater sense of hopelessness with the potential of ruining everything with a zombie storyline. meh.
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paisley1 wrote:I just thought it was squandered potential, but I certainly didn't find the show simplistic, it's subject (while not original) is a complex and mind boggling one, in that... ▼Spoiler ... space travel can cause some people to become aware of an alternate reality which can be amplified by the CAL device and cause those close to it to slip into an alternate universe. It's just the tired writing of not accepting those who are different and instantly considering them crazy and forcing them to take drugs, was excessively frustrating to watch throughout. Like, people didn't respond to Jo like they would in reality, with some basic questions like, what are you experiencing? what do you believe to be true? how can we help you? how can you help yourself? what do you need?, but instead they ALL responded with judgment and lack of understanding, which just left me with a sense of annoyance at the writing. People don't just assume you're crazy then hit you with electroshock therapy, lol. Doing THAT is crazy. What I would've preferred and what I think most people were expecting was Jo returning to her real universe to be with her real daughter, then finding the wrong/misplaced Paul Lancaster, end of season 1, then spending season 2 devising a way (without the CAL in that universe of course) to send him back to his real universe, switchymaroo. That would've been awesome!!! What they did in 1x8, was create more tragedy on top of tragedy, (Fall to Fall Story Structure only works in a comedy) and left an even greater sense of hopelessness with the potential of ruining everything with a zombie storyline. meh.
the idea of connecting quantum entanglement with the multiverse was simplistic. far fetched. it was complex in the way that a tangled ball of wool is
24 Reply by paisley1 2024-03-29 17:19:03 (edited by paisley1 2024-03-30 17:52:45)
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merc wrote:paisley1 wrote:I just thought it was squandered potential, but I certainly didn't find the show simplistic, it's subject (while not original) is a complex and mind boggling one, in that... ▼Spoiler ... space travel can cause some people to become aware of an alternate reality which can be amplified by the CAL device and cause those close to it to slip into an alternate universe. It's just the tired writing of not accepting those who are different and instantly considering them crazy and forcing them to take drugs, was excessively frustrating to watch throughout. Like, people didn't respond to Jo like they would in reality, with some basic questions like, what are you experiencing? what do you believe to be true? how can we help you? how can you help yourself? what do you need?, but instead they ALL responded with judgment and lack of understanding, which just left me with a sense of annoyance at the writing. People don't just assume you're crazy then hit you with electroshock therapy, lol. Doing THAT is crazy. What I would've preferred and what I think most people were expecting was Jo returning to her real universe to be with her real daughter, then finding the wrong/misplaced Paul Lancaster, end of season 1, then spending season 2 devising a way (without the CAL in that universe of course) to send him back to his real universe, switchymaroo. That would've been awesome!!! What they did in 1x8, was create more tragedy on top of tragedy, (Fall to Fall Story Structure only works in a comedy) and left an even greater sense of hopelessness with the potential of ruining everything with a zombie storyline. meh.
the idea of connecting quantum entanglement with the multiverse was simplistic. far fetched. it was complex in the way that a tangled ball of wool is
Why would you want the hook to be over complicated and realistic? This isn't a dry documentary. lolz. Quantum entanglement and the multiverse is explained to a child in this show to hook the audience so they can get it, accept it, then move on, and enjoy the rest of the drama. And yes, the rest of the story plays out like a tangled ball of wool, (intentionally creating a sense of confusion so the audience resonates with the lead) with a story told out of order, with characters living different lives in different universes/realities, with the main character trying to get back to her real universe while jumping between universes, which is difficult to track and complicated to the average viewer, but really fun to follow. ▼Spoiler What I didn't enjoy was ending on a down beat, with tragedy on top of tragedy, without having any win for any character other than the villain(s).
25 Reply by BingeWatcher415 2024-04-03 20:42:28 (edited by BingeWatcher415 2024-04-06 21:59:10)
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(user name of quote was unintentionally not included a result of piss poor cut/paste on my part. Added on April 6, 2024 after it was pointed out to me, mea culpa.) paisley1 wrote:
Why would you want the hook to be over complicated and realistic? This isn't a dry documentary. lolz. Quantum entanglement and the multiverse is explained to a child in this show to hook the audience so they can get it, accept it, then move on, and enjoy the rest of the drama. And yes, the rest of the story plays out like a tangled ball of wool, (intentionally creating a sense of confusion so the audience resonates with the lead) with a story told out of order, with characters living different lives in different universes/realities, with the main character trying to get back to her real universe while jumping between universes, which is difficult to track and complicated to the average viewer, but really fun to follow.
Thank you for this.I resonate with your posts regarding shows I find worthwhile. Totally passed over Constellation. Because of this post and diversity of passionate polarizing perspectives, it just moved to #1 on my binge-watch next list.
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