discussion split off from The Handmaid's Tale (Page 2 of 2)

The fact that you can’t see the irony in this is just so very sad.

And yeah, I probably shouldn’t try to reason with you, not only for the reasons in my previous posts ( that we seem to agree on ), but also because you apparently see this as so intimitating to you that you think this is somehow me trying to control what the majority of the world believes and any day now the majority will rise up to their minority oppressors from sheer reaction to being introduced to the idea of tolerance. And if you think you are not far right, but find yourself aligning with far right and hoping for their goals to come true, I might have some bad news for you..

So with that, I once again leave you to get back to your safe space

Meanwhile a huilo of 140 mil. people just now declared a war on this and I suspect he is not the only one who will sing this song Keep up the good work, results are obvious. And the best part is that clowns in Calfornia are completely unaware about their achievements.

That's because you were reading subtitles, I was listening to original and know very well from Russians perspective all their bs and how they see the world, what he says in 2 sentences covers years of buildup and there they have included the whole Californians garbage (probably you don't know, they pirate the shit out of everything, here is Handmaid's Tale dubbed, since 95% of them don't speak English). So, literally right now US ultra-libs have manage to not only mess with their Republicans or who are their target, but with a huge ass country, which has nukes, are threatening to use them and claim that they are fighting against exactly this (it's a set of things they are not thrilled about). And they are in information isolation, they don't know, but they are dumb and assume - in their view gays and trans are taking over the world (and they see the "confirmation" of that in pirated work of Californians). There you have it And Russian clowns are not the only ones, not even close.

And btw, speaking about the predictions, I had a Nostradamus feeling already some 5 years ago when this tendency started that it will end in some cultural war Because no kind of propaganda brainwashing bs has ended well so far.

And btw Republican clowns also play a part here, they are used to solidify that "confirmation", idiots like Tucker periodically are featured on Russia federal TV

And in the end we have 2 major clownades - one from West, another for the East and we as always are facepalming in the middle

Basically libs have managed to polarize not just US/Europe, but the whole planet. And they are solid minority, at least 1:6.

He is explaining that both the Russian regime and the regime in the West are idiots and that this conflict have been brewing for many years(and he is correct).

Polarization across the west, it's not just here, we're heading into dark times.

I just split off this discussion from the main Handmaid's Tale thread.

@g371: Are you claiming that Putin started the war with Ukraine because of the "US ultra-libs"? Of course he doesn't like liberal ideas, but he started the war hoping to obtain a more prominent role in the history books.

Was a bit off fighting NAFO battles with Russians

No, I'm not claiming that, tho what is a rock solid point I can prove in a couple million ways, is that he uses it as a pretense for his bs. Basically exploits simple Russian minds, an average Russian cannot stand all that and it's a very easy selling point. Especially now when they get their asses handed to them by Ukrainians, he needs to 1) sell that they actually are fighting West not Ukraine (to justify the magnificent losses); 2) to convince a couple hundred thousand sheep to go to their certain death instead of killing him. And how to do it? Lie about what is going on on the battlefield and push the usual, West is endangering our holy culture lala blabla (he is referring to exactly all "US ultra-libs genre").

But about the start of the war, it also there was a variable, but in a different way. Similar principles, Ukrainians overthrew their corrupt government (basically threw out a Russia puppet and with that chose to go EU direction), again simple minds to some extent were sold that evil Gayrope (that's how they call gay Europe) will come and do something bad with them And again, that was brainwashed for years before that via Russia federal TV (which now is banned in a bunch of countries). But it was not a major variable. It was a banal Russia invasion. That was just a variable in getting support for that invasion.

So there you have it. California -> Europe -> Russia -> people die over that California mental illness. The collision of two epic brainwashing propagandas. That of course does not mean that Russians won't do that anyway, they are very talented bs producers, would find something else. But for years they have been weaponizing exactly this. Because it's easy and they are not completely wrong. It's easy to sell things which at least partly are true.

This is the most severe case. Less severe is for example in Hungary. There it helps to elect Orban. Not completely sure, but I assume also echoes nicely in similar ways in some Middle East and Asia.

So what you’re saying is ”this is how Russian propaganda works and what they say justifies their war”? Or what did you mean by ” Because it's easy and they are not completely wrong.”?

Oh dear.

Ask someone to translate this work of art: https://t.me/romagolovanov/9482 - this also was broadcasted on their federal TV. On the right is Dugin, he speaks there about the satanic West He basically is some neo-fascist, has a bunch of sick ideas, but among them also is the West section. And in this particular freestyle he was talking about how they need to destroy the idea of Ukraine, because it's some mutated version of the evil West, that they need to eradicate it and replace with Russian idea. Have not point pointed to this day from what exactly consists their holy Russian idea and not less holy culture they cannot shut up about (also can bet that an average Russian can not), can just extrapolate that it's exact opposite of how they see the West. And a huge component of it is all woke stuff

Also in this stream he said what most of them don't say aloud, but what is a common knowledge which many in the West don't understand - they need to conquer Ukraine to be able to fight the West in the future. Scheme is super simple, merge Russia + Ukraine + Belarus + some others, build up the army and go on a holy war. Merge of course in Russian style, some genocide, filtration and total brainwashing. Everybody just got super lucky, that they are corrupt and disorganized af - otherwise we would have some epic war in +/- 15-20 years.

Who is Dugin: https://www.euronews.com/2022/08/22/ale … in-ukraine

A bit milder versions of his ideological bs you can hear from almost every sick in the head Russian politician - from Putin to Medvedev and everybody in between.