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Re: Andor [Drama, Action, Adventure, Thriller, Sci-Fi]
timing is wrong. it is 30 hours off. should be 22nd, 21h00, EST OOOPS... first mistake I have seen on Next Episode... and I signed up for Next Episode, just to alert me to Andor release. MURPHY`s law!!! OMG
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Re: Andor [Drama, Action, Adventure, Thriller, Sci-Fi]
All good... timing fixed, in a JIFF... May the Force be with YOU, always.... NEXT-EPISODE

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Re: Andor [Drama, Action, Adventure, Thriller, Sci-Fi]
First three episodes of Season 2 were OK. Very slow pace, all three episodes could've easily been compressed into two episodes. The lack of alien life continues in this season, I think all in all I saw 3 non-human people so far. The title of the first episodes makes it clear that there is a time gap to Season 1 which I very much aprreciate. ▼Spoiler They could've shown us if the woman in the test facility got away with it or if they found out about her...what was even the point of introducing her? That ship...makes no sense to me - What possible reason would they have to make it so difficult for regular pilots to fly that ship? I mean if it's a success they want to start mass-production and regular pilots will have to fly it. Training them should require minimum effort, so you want controls everyone is familiar with.
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54 Reply by paisley1 2025-04-27 13:27:09 (edited by paisley1 2025-05-16 03:53:07)

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Re: Andor [Drama, Action, Adventure, Thriller, Sci-Fi]
To pile onto what WDM is saying all 3 episodes could've been condensed into 1 episode, just felt like a lot of wasted screen time until the end of episode 3 for both stories, so, there had better be a purpose behind introducing these new characters and side stories....really felt like filler though.... @WDM: ▼Spoiler It's a prototype tie fighter he stole so I accepted the advanced control system, especially when the writers needed an easy plot device to prevent the bandits in the bush from stealing it later on, would not be surprised if that was the actual reason. Cassian also eventually gets the hang of flying it as well, and the wedding dance was an unbelievable waste of screen time, so pointless.
55 Reply by merc 2025-04-27 18:53:13 (edited by merc 2025-04-27 18:54:31)
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Re: Andor [Drama, Action, Adventure, Thriller, Sci-Fi]
I agree with the above. Season 2 first 3 eps was clearly desgned to waste as much money as possible on giving as many extras a job for as long as possible. I hope thats that and we now get into the real story. ▼Spoiler The fight between the clueless rebels was farcical and just a waste of time. Just as well they gave us 3 eps in one go. I hope the writing gets better
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Re: Andor [Drama, Action, Adventure, Thriller, Sci-Fi]
Oh my dear lord. Agree 100% with everything already said. Seems like it was written by ChatGPT, its bloody awful. I can't make head nor tail of whats going on, who the new characters are, WHY they are, or how they are involvled in the 'story'. Gave up at some point during ep 5. Shame, because first series was pretty good.
57 Reply by inkblot 2025-05-01 17:58:08 (edited by inkblot 2025-05-01 18:00:14)
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Re: Andor [Drama, Action, Adventure, Thriller, Sci-Fi]
I re-watched Season 1 and compared to that, this season is kinda bad. It reminds me of when BSG came out with Caprica, or Stargate came out with SG Universe. Everyone thought Caprica would be action filled shoot em up. But it was more of a political thriller and background introduction. Same with SG Universe. It was darker and people could not adjust to it. It does feel like they fired the writing team and hired new people. Seems to me more politics than action. Will stick with it, since this will be the last season. Hope it gets better. The city scenery and surrounding view is just amazing though. Now if they could only improve the script.
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▼Spoiler I hate it when they try and makeup futuristic dances. makes me cringe
59 Reply by paisley1 2025-05-03 01:00:27 (edited by paisley1 2025-05-16 03:53:24)

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2x4,5,6 are more interesting than the first 3 episodes, incredible sets/props/wardrobe/locations, there's some suspense in 2x6, but other than that, it's mid at best, as every character from Cassian, to Luthen, to Mon Mothma, all seem to lack a clear sense of purpose, urgency and intensity, compared to the first season, like, they're directionless and just fighting a random war of attrition, and so the story seems directionless. Also, the social issues they bring up this season landed unoriginal and unnecessary for Star Wars, like, is this supposed to be that kind of drama?, even the music and use of language and accents felt too much like Earth and not escapist Star Wars, that it took me out of the fiction, when every episode needs to capture, "A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far Far Away." ...so far not paced with a story worth following but with 6 more episodes to go, just hoping for 1 good one...
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Re: Andor [Drama, Action, Adventure, Thriller, Sci-Fi]
The one thing I hate about prequels, is the fact we know what happens to most of these characters. So half the suspense is gone.
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61 Reply by paisley1 2025-05-03 15:04:55 (edited by paisley1 2025-05-03 15:30:13)

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inkblot wrote:The one thing I hate about prequels, is the fact we know what happens to most of these characters. So half the suspense is gone.
lolz, yup, exactly, the audience would have seen Rogue One so every episode needs to be interesting and full of purpose otherwise the audience is just left saying, "Why did they make this?" and "How does this add to what we already know?" Here's what I felt after 1x1 as per my previous post, 3 years ago: 2022-09-22 16:12:02

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Re: Andor [Drama, Action, Adventure, Thriller, Sci-Fi]
Season 2, Episodes 04 - 06 were, at the very least, leagues better than Episodes 01 - 03. Compared to Season 1 however, it's still only "good". The storylines were decent, although I didn't really like yet another 1-year skip... And we got to see more non-humans, although I got the feeling they wanted us to recognize as little races as possible. Two time skips of one year, three years away from the first big showdown and the show doesn't really give any impression that the Rebellion has grown. But the show managed to keep me interested in every single character we have seen so far, even the imperial ones (apart maybe from Eedy Karn, what even is the purpose of that character?). ▼Spoiler So was Dr. Gorst a mission from Luthen or did they go Rogue here? It felt more like going Rogue, but they were given a mission. A mission on Coruscant feels way to dangerous though. Almost no Andor in the sixth episode of Andor...he basically did nothing in all 3 episodes. In my opinion he should've been on Ghorman for the mission. In that case Luthen could've visited Brix again and gave her the mission to kill Dr. Gorst...knowing she would go for it even though Cassian would disaprove. I really hope that at least brought Brix back from the dark place she was in.
paisley1 wrote: ...even the music and use of language and accents felt too much like Earth and not escapist Star Wars, that it took me out of the fiction, when every episode needs to capture, "A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far Far Away."
I absolutely agree with this. The music felt off at times and I swear to god, everytime they spoke in the Ghorman language I heard French. My favorite quote from Episode 04 (Bix to Cassian):
The mission is dinner, I think we can handle it.
Cracked me up - that is something I could see Han and Leia say to each other.
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Re: Andor [Drama, Action, Adventure, Thriller, Sci-Fi]
I'm a bit late to the (season 2) party, only watched the first 3 episodes. What can I say... I liked them!  Looked like in 2x3 they used the same cutlery as in 2001: A Space Odyssey (when his mom came over for the cringe fest/ meal)! Love that! 
64 Reply by paisley1 2025-05-10 02:08:28 (edited by paisley1 2025-05-16 03:53:48)

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The gap in time between 2x6 and 2x7 is undefined, which threw me, and the story within 2x7 & 8 unpacks slowly as though they stretched out a lack of content until 2x9. ▼Spoiler The force sensitive/prophet was such a contrived moment and scene that one might call it forced writing, and it's not that it's a bad idea, it just should've been setup as a motif at the beginning of the season and not randomly out of nowhere. (If I had written 2x1 to 2x8, I'd have given Cassian missions, all of which directly affecting Mon Mothma's life, so when they reach episode 2x9, she gets to see exactly who's saved her life, which would've landed with a bigger moment for the audience and worked with the whole prophetic story they setup, and I wouldn't have wasted screen time on a half baked and undeveloped love story we already know doesn't work out. But that's just how I would write TV for me.) Also, they showed a lot of screen time on Ghorman but didn't show the mining machines landing on Ghorman, which is the only thing I was interested in seeing with the entire Ghorman story. 2x9 "Welcome to the Rebellion" - Pivotal and intense, watched it twice.

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Re: Andor [Drama, Action, Adventure, Thriller, Sci-Fi]
Yeah, 2x09 was great, I may give it another watch too.
66 Reply by WilliamDrakeMcGregor 2025-05-10 20:39:54 (edited by WilliamDrakeMcGregor 2025-05-10 20:40:26)

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Re: Andor [Drama, Action, Adventure, Thriller, Sci-Fi]
Season 2, Episodes 07 - 09, were overall great with EP09 clearly being the peak of the story arc so far...but the skipping of events is still a real hard sell on me. Yet another 1 year time jump at the beginning. Adding to that, a lot of stuff is missing inbetween scenes, that they should've absolutely shown to us. I honestly don't get why they want to finish the story of Andor so badly, is it because they wouldn't have gotten a third season no matter how good Season 2 might do? ▼Spoiler How did Cassian leave so easily from Ghorman? After what happened, the Empire would've probably wanted a media blackout. And they must've had ships in orbit. The entire escape happened off-screen... Same goes for Willmon, just showed up in the safehouse... Not that Deedra's (almost) breakdown wasn't well done and well acted, but I really wanted to see her either watching how Syril gets shot or finding his body afterwards. The emotional pay-off of watching that would've been a lot stronger. Between EP08 and EP09 only 1 day has passed? That felt wrong. Not wanting to take away from Cassian but since we are now on Yavin I really hope for some cameo's from Rebels (Season 3 Episode 17). If, by chance, there won't be another time skip (doubtfull) we might get to see the best cross over in Star Wars history with Mon Mothma arriving on Yavin with Phoenix Squadron.
What I am definitely going to do is rewatch Season 1 starting tomorrow and, once Season 2 is finished, I will rewatch Rogue One. paisley1 wrote:▼Spoiler The force sensitive/prophet was such a contrived moment and scene that one might call it forced writing, and it's not that it's a bad idea, it just should've been setup as a motif at the beginning of the season and not randomly out of nowhere. (If I had written 2x1 to 2x8, I'd have given Cassian missions, all of which directly affecting Mon Mothma's life, so when they reach episode 2x9, she gets to see exactly who's saved her life, which would've landed with a bigger moment for the audience and worked with the whole prophetic story they setup, and I wouldn't have wasted screen time on a half baked and undeveloped love story we already know doesn't work out. But that's just how I would write TV for me.) 
Also, they showed a lot of screen time on Ghorman but didn't show the mining machines landing on Ghorman, which is the only thing I was interested in seeing with the entire Ghorman story.
Agree with everything you said here.
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67 Reply by paisley1 2025-05-11 04:42:07 (edited by paisley1 2025-05-11 05:34:02)

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@WDM, I had similar thoughts, my comments are in red... WilliamDrakeMcGregor wrote:▼Spoiler How did Cassian leave so easily from Ghorman? Exactly, like, wouldn't the Empire with all of it's technology be able to control the flow of traffic entering and exiting every Imperial controlled planet? Evading and sneaking past patrols isn't a plot point, it's just done and not talked about, but it should be a bigger deal than they make it out to be. All we need to know is that Cassian freely travels to and fro, from Yavin 4, without the slightest problem, and it's always rainbows and sunshine, all the time, every time, especially to Coruscant. I just roll my eyes and move on. I really wanted to see her (Dedra) either watching how Syril gets shot or finding his body afterwards. The emotional pay-off of watching that would've been a lot stronger. I thought they were intentionally highlighting Dedra's internal conflict by not having that kind of moment. Between EP08 and EP09 only 1 day has passed? That felt wrong. I suppose they are rebels who react when called, they go from nothing happening, to more than they can handle, so that didn't bother me. To waste so much time on a dead end relationship, when this season should've been about the missions leading up to the beginning of Rogue One, felt even more wrong. Cassian hasn't done much plot wise, to recap, he stole a tie fighter, bombed a building, investigated Ghorman and did nothing, then attempted an assassination of Dedra and failed, nabbed K-2SO in the process, and rescued Mon Mothma, but other than that, what has he done in 9 episodes? If he took out a Star Destroyer, or found a way to turn a general, or install an agent into the Empire as a saboteur, or developed a team of spies and grew the rebel intelligence network, something tangible like that, would've been way better than this story where he's grown a healthy skepticism of his fellow rebels and seems more uncertain about the rebellion than before. Really nice sets though: 
Looking forward to the final episodes of Andor Season 2.
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can some one explain what that variation machine nonsense was all about? seems another waste of time like the rebelling rebels story line in eps 1 season 2

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merc wrote:can some one explain what that variation machine nonsense was all about? seems another waste of time like the rebelling rebels story line in eps 1 season 2
I understood that the machine was required to syphon off the fuel without causing a big explosion. I felt like they added it mostly to...
▼Spoiler ...have a good reason why they needed to keep the outside help around until he could teach them how it works (and the follow-up story line that comes from that).

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merc wrote:can some one explain what that variation machine nonsense was all about? seems another waste of time like the rebelling rebels story line in eps 1 season 2
Seeing Saw Gerrera played by Forest Whitaker is never a wast of time. Even if the plotline was just meant as filler, the perfomance alone was worth my time at least 
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Re: Andor [Drama, Action, Adventure, Thriller, Sci-Fi]
After watching the last 3 episodes, I have come to the conclusion that the first 4 - 6 episodes are utter garbage, in timing and story progression. They should have turned season 1 into a movie and season 2 into a movie. Or combined S1 and S2 into one good film. The flow in the first 3 or 4 episodes was off. But it sure went out with a bang. I enjoyed the last 6 episodes. The problem with prequels is you know how it ends, so you better have a damn good story.
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inkblot wrote:After watching the last 3 episodes, I have come to the conclusion that the first 4 - 6 episodes are utter garbage, in timing and story progression. They should have turned season 1 into a movie and season 2 into a movie. Or combined S1 and S2 into one good film. The flow in the first 3 or 4 episodes was off. But it sure went out with a bang. I enjoyed the last 6 episodes. The problem with prequels is you know how it ends, so you better have a damn good story.
I agree. Too much of the first few episodes felt like they'd taken all the boring bits out of Game of Thrones and stuck them into the Star Wars universe.
2020. Meh.
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Re: Andor [Drama, Action, Adventure, Thriller, Sci-Fi]
eps 7-9 much better. Had to wait a very very long time though. giving us 3 eps at a time suggests they knew they had a curates egg

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merc wrote:eps 7-9 much better. Had to wait a very very long time though. giving us 3 eps at a time suggests they knew they had a curates egg
Yep, they could easily have squeezed this into a 2 hour or less film and it would have been so much better. Note: I had to look up "curate's egg" as I'd never heard of that before. 
2020. Meh.
75 Reply by inkblot 2025-05-14 23:38:27 (edited by inkblot 2025-05-14 23:38:38)
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graybags wrote:merc wrote:eps 7-9 much better. Had to wait a very very long time though. giving us 3 eps at a time suggests they knew they had a curates egg
Yep, they could easily have squeezed this into a 2 hour or less film and it would have been so much better. Note: I had to look up "curate's egg" as I'd never heard of that before. 
To save everyone else from having to look it up like I just did. A "curate's egg" is a British idiom that describes something that is partly good and partly bad.
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