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Topic: Shining Girls [Drama, Crime, Sci-Fi] (Elisabeth Moss) (April 29)
https://next-episode.net/shining-girls
Kirby Mizrachi, a Chicago reporter who survives an attempted murder by a time-traveling Depression-era serial killer, teams up with a homicide reporter to track down her would-be killer and bring him to justice.
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Re: Shining Girls [Drama, Crime, Sci-Fi] (Elisabeth Moss) (April 29)
Shining Girls — Official Teaser | Apple TV+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0oLYKjmHuU Quite a unique concept for a show! I like the teaser.
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Re: Shining Girls [Drama, Crime, Sci-Fi] (Elisabeth Moss) (April 29)
Watched 1x1. It's less than I had hoped it to be, but good enough to keep watching.
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Re: Shining Girls [Drama, Crime, Sci-Fi] (Elisabeth Moss) (April 29)
Watched 1x3. Finally it all comes together. It's one of those "you need to watch the first 3 episodes to make up your mind" shows.
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Re: Shining Girls [Drama, Crime, Sci-Fi] (Elisabeth Moss) (April 29)
Am I the only one here watching this show? It's a good show, I give it 8/10 now.
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Re: Shining Girls [Drama, Crime, Sci-Fi] (Elisabeth Moss) (April 29)
Looks like It's not great. I have not liked anything she has done since Madmen.
DRM "manages access" in the same way that Prison "manages freedom". http://xkcd.com/488/
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Re: Shining Girls [Drama, Crime, Sci-Fi] (Elisabeth Moss) (April 29)
Wizard wrote:It's not great. I have not liked anything she has done since Madmen.
I haven't watched https://next-episode.net/mad-men but I like her performance here and in https://next-episode.net/the-handmaids-tale.
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I think maybe because she wasn't the main character in MM, so not always on the screen. MM was a good show, I really enjoyed it at the time. It has some good scores: https://whattowatchon.tv/mad-men-2007-2015-tt0804503
DRM "manages access" in the same way that Prison "manages freedom". http://xkcd.com/488/
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Re: Shining Girls [Drama, Crime, Sci-Fi] (Elisabeth Moss) (April 29)
lighton wrote:Am I the only one here watching this show? It's a good show, I give it 8/10 now.
I'm watching it and I like it!
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Re: Shining Girls [Drama, Crime, Sci-Fi] (Elisabeth Moss) (April 29)
I just binged episodes 1-7. I LOVE it! I can not believe more people are not interested in this crazy time traveling serial killer thriller show.
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scushman wrote:I just binged episodes 1-7. I LOVE it! I can not believe more people are not interested in this crazy time traveling serial killer thriller show.
I hope more people discover the show over time.
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Re: Shining Girls [Drama, Crime, Sci-Fi] (Elisabeth Moss) (April 29)
1x8, final episode: love it! Let's see if the show gets renewed - the story doesn't need to be continued, but the end could be the basis for a new and different story.
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@Lighton Wasn't sure what this show was about, so I never watched it, but thanks for the recommendation, watched the whole thing, it's really good. I do have a few points of contention.... ▼Spoiler Where the hell did the house come from, what did they do in the past to change the future, also why did the things they do in the past have anything to do with the changes in the future as they didn't make any sense, and why the hell is it called Shining Girls??? It should be called Time Traveling House, because it's not like that concept is a mystery, it's explained early on, but Shining Girls??? like WTF??? What am I missing, why aren't they shining? *Edit: So I went to wikipedia and found this: The book centers on a time-traveling Depression-era drifter who must murder the "shining girls" in order to continue his travels. That would have been a great premise to start the show with to know what the hell it's all about! Hilarious. It's a book to screen epic fail. This TV show did not make that clear. The concept the show brings the viewer into, is that, in the 1920's, two ex-WW1 soldiers who are thieves, go to a house to steal, which leads them to another house to steal from which is a time traveling house, which leads one soldier to have the ability to go in and out of the house at different points in time but only so far in the future, (just like the guy who was already living there) and he's simply portrayed as a serial killer (like many killers created from war) being tracked by a newspaper archivist, but not as someone forced to kill shining girls to keep time traveling?? That motive and concept is not unpacked or presented in any meaningful way to the viewer. Also, the time traveling house, is very muddy and filled with paradoxes as well as practical problems such as ownership, city taxation, utilities, and upkeep. lolz.
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▼Spoiler paisley1 wrote:Where the hell did the house come from, what did they do in the past to change the future, also why did the things they do in the past have anything to do with the changes in the future as they didn't make any sense, and why the hell is it called Shining Girls??? It should be called Time Traveling House, because it's not like that concept is a mystery, it's explained early on, but Shining Girls??? like WTF??? What am I missing, why aren't they shining? *Edit: So I went to wikipedia and found this: The book centers on a time-traveling Depression-era drifter who must murder the "shining girls" in order to continue his travels. That would have been a great premise to start the show with to know what the hell it's all about! Hilarious. It's a book to screen epic fail. This TV show did not make that clear. The concept the show brings the viewer into, is that, in the 1920's, two ex-WW1 soldiers who are thieves, go to a house to steal, which leads them to another house to steal from which is a time traveling house, which leads one soldier to have the ability to go in and out of the house at different points in time but only so far in the future, (just like the guy who was already living there) and he's simply portrayed as a serial killer (like many killers created from war) being tracked by a newspaper archivist, but not as someone forced to kill shining girls to keep time traveling?? That motive and concept is not unpacked or presented in any meaningful way to the viewer. Also, the time traveling house, is very muddy and filled with paradoxes as well as practical problems such as ownership, city taxation, utilities, and upkeep. lolz.
Not sure what you mean by "what did they do in the past to change the future." I thought Shining Girls pointed to the killed girl "who was really bright" from the radium (in that tank in 1920), episode 1x7 (and all the other girls/ women). I wouldn't say "It's a book to screen epic fail." - I read that they only got a budget for the number of episodes that we got to see, and thus they had to simplify the story a bit. Him not having to kill is not something I need(ed) in the show, having learned about that just now. (In 1x8 he kills again and again to change the time-line in his favor.) What I don't understand: when she fights with the time-travelling murderer in the laundromat/ not-yet-bar (end of 1x4), the wall behind her changes three times within seconds. And after she runs out of the building, it changes from laundromat to bar. All that without him killing anyone. Something along those lines happens in their final fight (1x8). Yeah, I've wondered about city taxation too, maybe the house just jumps to a different time-line when there's trouble mounting. And what did she see when she looked out of the house's window? Looked bright... like something... shining.
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Re: Shining Girls [Drama, Crime, Sci-Fi] (Elisabeth Moss) (April 29)
I really enjoyed Shining Girls, but I felt the ending let it down. The final episode felt a little rushed. For such a good show, I really hoped the ending was just... better.
2020. Meh.
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Re: Shining Girls [Drama, Crime, Sci-Fi] (Elisabeth Moss) (April 29)
Season 2 unlikely to return: https://www.bustle.com/entertainment/wi … r-season-2 lighton wrote:▼Spoiler paisley1 wrote:Where the hell did the house come from, what did they do in the past to change the future, also why did the things they do in the past have anything to do with the changes in the future as they didn't make any sense, and why the hell is it called Shining Girls??? It should be called Time Traveling House, because it's not like that concept is a mystery, it's explained early on, but Shining Girls??? like WTF??? What am I missing, why aren't they shining? *Edit: So I went to wikipedia and found this: The book centers on a time-traveling Depression-era drifter who must murder the "shining girls" in order to continue his travels. That would have been a great premise to start the show with to know what the hell it's all about! Hilarious. It's a book to screen epic fail. This TV show did not make that clear. The concept the show brings the viewer into, is that, in the 1920's, two ex-WW1 soldiers who are thieves, go to a house to steal, which leads them to another house to steal from which is a time traveling house, which leads one soldier to have the ability to go in and out of the house at different points in time but only so far in the future, (just like the guy who was already living there) and he's simply portrayed as a serial killer (like many killers created from war) being tracked by a newspaper archivist, but not as someone forced to kill shining girls to keep time traveling?? That motive and concept is not unpacked or presented in any meaningful way to the viewer. Also, the time traveling house, is very muddy and filled with paradoxes as well as practical problems such as ownership, city taxation, utilities, and upkeep. lolz.
Not sure what you mean by "what did they do in the past to change the future." I thought Shining Girls pointed to the killed girl "who was really bright" from the radium (in that tank in 1920), episode 1x7 (and all the other girls/ women). I wouldn't say "It's a book to screen epic fail." - I read that they only got a budget for the number of episodes that we got to see, and thus they had to simplify the story a bit. Him not having to kill is not something I need(ed) in the show, having learned about that just now. (In 1x8 he kills again and again to change the time-line in his favor.) What I don't understand: when she fights with the time-travelling murderer in the laundromat/ not-yet-bar (end of 1x4), the wall behind her changes three times within seconds. And after she runs out of the building, it changes from laundromat to bar. All that without him killing anyone. Something along those lines happens in their final fight (1x8). Yeah, I've wondered about city taxation too, maybe the house just jumps to a different time-line when there's trouble mounting. And what did she see when she looked out of the house's window? Looked bright... like something... shining.
@Lighton To answer your first question.... ▼Spoiler You asked: Not sure what you mean by "what did they do in the past to change the future." And all I can say is, isn't that the whole show?, like, the murderer is going into the past and changing things, so that Elizabeth Moss's character's life keep's changing before her eyes, yet she has a memory of the alternate timelines that the murderer keeps creating. The problem is, she would have some recollection of the point at which her life changed in the present. That is the contentious part, where the time travel gets muddy, in that she has knowledge in the present that things have changed, but no recollection of the origin of the change. Also, the writers and creators aren't showing the changes that the murderer was making, or the change Elizabeth Moss's character made to change the murderer's life in the end. As for your ep 107 comments, I watched it again, still didn't see what you're talking about. Could you give me a time stamp of this "radium"? I suppose my whole point is that if you were to explain this show to someone who asked, "why is it called Shining Girls?", you'd probably mention an archivist and journalist at a newspaper who are researching women murdered by a serial killer, and a mystery about a time travelling house, but probably nothing about shining girls, because it's totally left a mystery, even at the end of the season.
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Re: Shining Girls [Drama, Crime, Sci-Fi] (Elisabeth Moss) (April 29)
According to Wikipedia, the shining girls are "bright young women who burn with potential."
2020. Meh.
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graybags wrote:According to Wikipedia, the shining girls are "bright young women who burn with potential."
I felt like that was what it was supposed to be like, but their stories were never unpacked enough for me on screen to really get there, but that makes sense though, to save these girls and their shining futures, from a serial killer, through a time traveling house, lolz.
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