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I think I am done, I just find this show ... boring? I am just not into it.

I found myself skipping through half of it anyway in the last couple of episodes.

GoT vs LotR , I choose GoT, it keeps me engaged at least.

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xzeal wrote:

I think I am done, I just find this show ... boring? I am just not into it.

I found myself skipping through half of it anyway in the last couple of episodes.

GoT vs LotR , I choose GoT, it keeps me engaged at least.

well you will be glad there is season 2 to wait for.

It is a show to watch if you have nothing else that day?

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so the show is now over.

Spoiler

Am I right in thinking the 3 silvery people thought that the big hairy guy was Sauron but in fact he is Gandalf? And that the pretend king is in fact Sauron?

A better end than I thought there would be

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108, quite a subversive end, mildly engaging.  I would've edited out more of the harfoot story though, it dragged on needlessly.

@Nightcrow, did you marathon this yet?

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merc wrote:

so the show is now over.

Spoiler

Am I right in thinking the 3 silvery people thought that the big hairy guy was Sauron but in fact he is Gandalf? And that the pretend king is in fact Sauron?

A better end than I thought there would be



My question is who are they?

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My guess is they may be elves who betrayed their kind by serving Sauron, some kind of early dark elf.

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Brilliant! What an excellent series. Me and the wife thoroughly enjoyed it. No unneccecary ridiculous gory violence (like GOT-House of the Donkey), just good storytelling, as it should be.

I'm glad they renewed it for another season. For all the nay-saysers, if you don't like it, stop watching it, like i did with House of the Donkey after Ep 3 or 4.

Simples!

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I love it! I like a good story build up and character development. this first season is setting the stage. I, too, enjoy that it isn't full of gratuitous sex and violence and is letting a story unfold.

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The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power | Season 2 – SDCC Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzJDzIDv0mo

Looks promising (and expensive)! smile

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lighton wrote:

The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power | Season 2 – SDCC Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzJDzIDv0mo

Looks promising (and expensive)! smile

As long as they don't screw up the story for Tom Bombadill, I can handle everything they are going to make.
Always loved the mystery around him, if they are gonna create a story around him it has to be Tolkien-level good.

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Season 2, Episode 1....it was OK. Certainly, better than I expected.

Spoiler

I didn't like Gil'Galad in the first season, but in this Episode he was a lot closer to my expectations for the High King of the Noldor.
Nori & Gandalfs journey is good, gives me a bit of a Mandalorian Season 1-vibe. I loved that the song played into their journey - great decision.
Galadriel has imho improved over Season 1 in this episode.
Cirdan indeed gives off the vibe of someone old & wise.
Sauron is acting too much like a human and not a Maia.
Didn't like Elrond in Season 1 and hasn't changed so far for season 2.

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Decided to go ahead and watch Episode 2 right away...some good parts, some less so.

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When someone like Gil'galad uses words like "It is said that the deceiver (Sauron)...blah blah" my cringe-meter goes to an 11/10.
The people talking here are two of the oldest elves in middle-earth, who were born and raised among the Valar and Maiar. If at all, they are the people who "say things"...not the other way around.
Minor detail, but dialogue like that pisses me off...

With Galadriel I think the creators listened too much to the critics and toned her down too much. She is way to subordinate which doesn't compare to her in Season 1 at all.
I get that some fans weren't happy with her demeanor but changing her in Season 2 like that is just making it worse.

The dwarves story...I don't get it. So their light tunnels collapse and they are worried about crops. Fair enough. But they still have communication and travel to the surface available? So whats the problem?

The Dark Wizard (according to imdb) calls Gandalf an Istar...either they are suggesting this isn't the first time someone from Valinor was sent to intervene or that dude came up with the phrase himself.
Then Sauron tells Celebrimbor that he practically is an Istar...but without using the word. So neither Sauron nor Celebrimbor know the term.

Galadriel and Elrond...this relationship just gets worse and worse storywise. Don't forget that at some point he will marry her daughter...

So far, my favorite part of Season 2 is still Gandalf and the Hobbits(!) journeying across the desert. Absolutely love them.

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S2x1,2,3 - Great music and sets, but the story has never convinced me that this is the fantasy of Tolkien.  Not immersed.  Still a 6/10 for me.

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The bit I hated were the munchkins

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I agree with all of you.

But the scenery is to die for. And I love the Dwarves.

And the Elves are really hard on the R's.

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paisley 1 wrote:
S2x1,2,3 - Great music and sets, but the story has never convinced me that this is the fantasy of Tolkien.  Not immersed.  Still a 6/10 for me.

Couldn't agree more.
Bear McCreary is a top-notch composer. Is use the scores for both Black Sails and The Rings of Power as relaxation music smile

I gave up on this coming close to Tolkien-level storytelling with this show. It's ok-ish fantasy and it won't get any better. As I said before, for me, they just can't screw up Tom Bombadill, that's where I'm gonna draw the line.


Episode 3 - was boring..nothing of real significance happened here.

Spoiler

Isildur escaping the spiders was boring...we all knew he had to escape.
The dwarfs are still struggling for food.... even though THEY CAN LEAVE THE MOUNTAIN !...and it's not like the don't have anything to trade.
The dwarfs giving more Mithril to the elves....we all knew it was going to happen.

The eagle...that was just stupid.... Yeah sure Manwe would sent an eagle to alter a political struggle.... Tolkien's work is all about bloodlines - an eagle would've never been sent for something like that and it obviously didn't happen like that in the Silmarilion.
And I don't think Pharazon would be able to manipulate an eagle in anyway.

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inkblot wrote:

And the Elves are really hard on the R's.

Oh YES! lol

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lighton wrote:
inkblot wrote:

And the Elves are really hard on the R's.

Oh YES! lol


I think this is the only show that I watch for all the wrong reasons. As explained in previous posts, by other members, this show is not really that good.

But I do enjoy a lot of the characters, the music and scenery are simply outstanding. And of course the title. Lord Of The Rings.

So for me it is an enjoyable 1 hour escape. I would love to live wherever this is filmed. Not in Mordor of course.

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Hehe... Yes, the scenery is exquisite.

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Episode 4...the Eldest...it was not good.

Spoiler

About the elves...
This was probably the worst display of elves so far...their behaviour, skills and knowledge are far beneath what you would expect.

They travel from Lindon to Eregion and have to discuss which path is the best?! as if they haven't traveled these paths hundreds of times.
Oh yeah and where are the horses?! - Isn't speed of the most importance to their task? Why they walkin'?

The fight against the barrow-wights...omg.
- one elf dead but they only draw their weapons after Elrond says "prepare yourself"
- one elf doesn't know what they are
- Galadriel knows what they are but doesn't know how to defeat them
- Elrond knows how to defeat them but only spills the beans after he let the warriors try a couple of times by regular means.

Elrond was kinda a douchebag in this episode.

Tom Bombadil...
It was ok....not as bad as I feared.

They throw the words Istar and Wizard around far too lightly. So the dark wizard was also sent by Valinor?, he was not a former servant of Morgoth? This I could've believed much easier. To my knowledge there were more Maiar who followed Morgoth and it would make sense that not just Sauron survived but another one as well.

But another Istar from Valinor turning bad....that's just not good enough. Sarumar should've been the exception.

And wizard...I get the humans and hobbits calling them that. But Tom Bombadil using the word "wizard" feels just wrong.

The humans from the south...
I could not care less about their story...

The hobbits...
For all I care, this show could just be about Hobbits.

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WilliamDrakeMcGregor wrote:
Spoiler

The fight against the barrow-wights...omg.
- one elf dead but they only draw their weapons after Elrond says "prepare yourself"

Yes, that was stupid to write it that way. smile

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Episode 5 - The Halls of Stone.

Some made sense, most of it didn't. People are being stupid as per usual in this tv show.

Spoiler

The Dwarves
When they "reopened" Khazad-dûm for business - since apparently when the lightshafts break down but you can still leave the mine at any time, but you are still trapped somehow - Durin said:

Pity those who dwell above. Slaves to the sun.
Chaines to its ceaseless rhtythm of waking and sleep.
In Khazad-dûm we are free of its Tyranny.

Well...the whole point of the first 4 Episodes was, that they were could not survive for much longer without the lightshafts - aka "The Sun" - so what is he talking about? You could argue, that they are even more so slave to the sun than the surface-dwellers.

But other than that, the dwarves were OK in this Episode.

However, with a title like "Halls of Stone" I expected to see a lot more of the Glory of Khazad-dûm. What we got were scenes in small rooms, stuffed marketplaces or (very short and almost still) wide shots from the exterior. Nothing from the interior except for one short shot during the "reopening".  And that scene with the (probably) Balrog roaring was too dark imho.
Kinda disappointing. This could've been the moment for some epic score and scenery.

Even the first look at the Gates of Moria was almost boring. He could've whispered the password to make it glow or something like that.

Númenor
Hmm..curious where the drew their inspiration from, for what went down there - yes, of course, ancient rome smile

Eregion
This is an absolute fact: There are no Elves in Eregion, only humans with pointy ears !!!

Lindon
Stupid, just stupid... why is it a choice to either go to Eregion or sail to Mordor? Eregion is on the way to Mordor. Two birds with one stone...some Commanders and High King they are who planned countless battles in the old days....
Oh and Celebrimbor can send Gil-Galad a letter "all is good in Eregion" but Gil-Galad can't send a letter "that dude you played with is Sauron"... come on.
And btw. where are all the armies of the Elves? They have 4 Commanders: North, West, South, East - so four armies at least - are they all in Lindon? That's not very clever.

The Orcs
Yepp, I think this episode made it official: They want us to feel bad for the Orcs...somehow this reminds me of "The Acolyte" where suddenly the Jedi are the bad guys.

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I enjoy your special reviews! big_smile

Some of the flaws don't even register with me - I don't know the landscape as well as you do.

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Kind of a downer hearing hardcore fans about rings of power tongue be happy there is one, no?

"Au naturel maybe, thats the way i like it. Swing low, sweet chariots." Creed Bratton

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dominar wrote:

Kind of a downer hearing hardcore fans about rings of power tongue be happy there is one, no?

Despite what my posts might suggest, I am very happy about the existence of this show smile
I take every ounce of good content from this show and treasure it.

Unfortunately there is a lot more bad than good with this show, but that will never stop me from watching this or any other show in the Lord of the Rings saga smile

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