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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
merc wrote:and there is so little suspense at the end of each episode that makes it feel so empty. compare with Stargirl where 2nd season is full of cliff hangers and what nows that means you have to watch the next eps
Having tons of cliffhangers might be something you like, but it's not an indicator of quality.
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
lighton wrote:merc wrote:and there is so little suspense at the end of each episode that makes it feel so empty. compare with Stargirl where 2nd season is full of cliff hangers and what nows that means you have to watch the next eps
Having tons of cliffhangers might be something you like, but it's not an indicator of quality.
well it gets you speculating which is a good thing, rather than passive consumption
28 Reply by paisley1 2021-09-30 03:59:38 (edited by paisley1 2021-09-30 04:01:17)
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
Well, I binged the first 5 episodes of this MENOPAUSACLYPSE, I like it, it's very easy to watch, well paced, I just wish Olivia Thirlby had more screen time, I love her. Just doesn't seem like women would let things get so dirty, like, without men wouldn't America be cleaner? The premise is a bit weak and the episodes are a bit predictable. ▼Spoiler The stench of all the dead bodies they left in the White House would be unbearable. Trusting this covert operative just seemed so contrived and forced, but alright, whatever.
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
paisley1 wrote:Just doesn't seem like women would let things get so dirty, like, without men wouldn't America be cleaner?
Maybe, just maybe, keeping the lights on and securing water and food is more important?
30 Reply by Skipper3l 2021-09-30 20:43:31 (edited by Skipper3l 2021-09-30 20:49:39)
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
First time I give a review/opinion really. I really looked forward to this, but damn......... Why does every single show now a days have to be such long winded drama marathons. This could have been a great show, exploring this scenario. Finding solutions, solve problems. Find the villain, find a way to go on, rebuild and so on, but nooooo. Drama drama drama. Lead by the two most stupid characters on earth. Born by a senator (the new president) and fathered by what seems like a highly intelligent man, we follow a guy who is so dumb that he can't tie his shoes right, and his sister that does every stupid dumb thing in the book too. And the plot that the seemingly only two men alive, happens to be the new presidents son for one. Come on. And the other guy we see, doesn't seem too bright either. And guess what, also in relation to the new president thru the daughter. Not a single spark of thought there either. This is so unrealistically stupid put together. Who gobbles stuff like this up? All the men has died, but there these two guys walk around, and don't even conceiver the idea that they might be important to the world. Damn, this thing is so toe cringingly, that I find my self getting annoyed watching it. Not a second more of my time is wasted on this junk. Could have been so good, but is sooooo opposite. Waste of time. Just imo that is of cause. End of rant!
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
Skipper3l wrote:First time I give a review/opinion really. I really looked forward to this, but damn......... Why does every single show now a days have to be such long winded drama marathons. This could have been a great show, exploring this scenario. Finding solutions, solve problems. Find the villain, find a way to go on, rebuild and so on, but nooooo. Drama drama drama. Lead by the two most stupid characters on earth. Born by a senator (the new president) and fathered by what seems like a highly intelligent man, we follow a guy who is so dumb that he can't tie his shoes right, and his sister that does every stupid dumb thing in the book too. And the plot that the seemingly only two men alive, happens to be the new presidents son for one. Come on. And the other guy we see, doesn't seem too bright either. And guess what, also in relation to the new president thru the daughter. Not a single spark of thought there either. This is so unrealistically stupid put together. Who gobbles stuff like this up? All the men has died, but there these two guys walk around, and don't even conceiver the idea that they might be important to the world. Damn, this thing is so toe cringingly, that I find my self getting annoyed watching it. Not a second more of my time is wasted on this junk. Could have been so good, but is sooooo opposite. Waste of time. Just imo that is of cause. End of rant!
you are not as lucky as me. I can not remember what happened in the last eps so nothing to get angry about
32 Reply by paisley1 2021-09-30 21:48:47 (edited by paisley1 2021-09-30 22:35:56)
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
lighton wrote:paisley1 wrote:Just doesn't seem like women would let things get so dirty, like, without men wouldn't America be cleaner?
Maybe, just maybe, keeping the lights on and securing water and food is more important?
Not logically. Women would be, and are, involved in every aspect of life, including garbage disposal and lawn care. If anything, at least at the start, the world would be a whole lot easier to maintain and feed, the issues would be completely existential, not practical. Why is the power going out? Not explained. Why is water an issue? Not explained. Why is heat an issue? Not explained. Women can't take care of these things without men? Bullshit. It's just such a weak dystopian premise; contrived, with first class honours and great distinction graduating summa cum lauda. But an easy watch. To a large extent I agree with Skipper, except that he doesn't understand that the second guy is trans, and not genetically male, but that this show is frustrating to watch because of it's misconception of what would happen, and how quickly women would band together to pitch in and help each other, and then deal with the depression of losing loved ones and deal with their existential crisis.
33 Reply by HomerS 2021-10-01 10:10:41 (edited by HomerS 2021-10-01 10:30:16)
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
paisley1 wrote:Women would be, and are, involved in every aspect of life, including garbage disposal and lawn care. If anything, at least at the start, the world would be a whole lot easier to maintain and feed, the issues would be completely existential, not practical.
Yea no, it would be like it is shown in the series maybe even worse, atleast for some time, if not many years. Why is the power going out? Not explained. Why is water an issue? Not explained. Why is heat an issue? Not explained. Women can't take care of these things without men? Bullshit.
It's explained in the comics, when it was written around 2008, 92% of fortune 500 managers, 99% of all land owners worldwide, 95% of all pilots, truck drivers and ship captains in america, 99% of all mechanics, electricians and construction workers worldwide, 85% of all Government officials and 100% of all priests, imams and Rabbis are men. And if all these men die, there of course will be a huge chaos with Planes falling out of the sky, power plants going offline and the entire supply network will be paralyzed. Maybe in 2021 the numbers have changed a little but not significantly. Can women do these tasks aswell? Of course, if they have learned and practised them for some time, otherwise it will take years to master them, as it would take men aswell.
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
paisley1 wrote:lighton wrote:paisley1 wrote:Just doesn't seem like women would let things get so dirty, like, without men wouldn't America be cleaner?
Maybe, just maybe, keeping the lights on and securing water and food is more important?
Not logically. Women would be, and are, involved in every aspect of life, including garbage disposal and lawn care. If anything, at least at the start, the world would be a whole lot easier to maintain and feed, the issues would be completely existential, not practical. Why is the power going out? Not explained. Why is water an issue? Not explained. Why is heat an issue? Not explained. Women can't take care of these things without men? Bullshit. It's just such a weak dystopian premise; contrived, with first class honours and great distinction graduating summa cum lauda. But an easy watch. To a large extent I agree with Skipper, except that he doesn't understand that the second guy is trans, and not genetically male, but that this show is frustrating to watch because of it's misconception of what would happen, and how quickly women would band together to pitch in and help each other, and then deal with the depression of losing loved ones and deal with their existential crisis.
yes it is presented as a wasteland - very man centred world. that men hold the world together and would fall apart if they vanished
35 Reply by Skipper3l 2021-10-01 11:57:25 (edited by Skipper3l 2021-10-01 12:13:06)
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
Yeah I got the trans part. Just got the impressions that "he" was still a he. In medical terms that is. I may be wrong though. It was pretty hard to keep the antennas straight for this thing. And defending the plot by saying planes fall out of the sky, if the male pilot dies. Naah, jetliners these days are (and has been for many years) fully auto capable. In fact a lot of flights happen without any direct involvement from pilots at all. They are just there as a backup in many cases. It would give chaos yes, but this is just ridiculous. Plot be what it is. But why is it interesting to see the main characters do and say downright toe cringing stupid things all the time. I simply just don't get it.
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
Thank you, HomerS, I was about to reply something along those lines too. Of course women can potentially do (almost) everything, but not without training. Years of training, in many cases. Skipper3l wrote:jetliners these days are (and has been for many years) fully auto capable. In fact a lot of flights happen without any direct involvement from pilots at all.
AFAIK that's only true for the boring part of the job, cruising at 30000 feet - not take-off and landing. Many machines could do more, but take-off and landing are mostly manual labor.
37 Reply by Skipper3l 2021-10-01 16:24:39 (edited by Skipper3l 2021-10-01 16:35:18)
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
Nope. They are for most parts fully capable of automated flight, including takeoff and landing. Pilots often take over those parts just to keep the routine up, but if you fly once in a while, you have most likely been flown on auto. I have a few buddies that fly commercial, both cargo and passenger machines. For all the bigger and newer airliners, they are sort of just there "just in case". But, that's not what this is about, and I am sorry If have caused a commotion by criticizing this show. I mean every harsh word though :-) It's crappy show!
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
Ah, thanks for sharing! Even though... Skipper3l wrote:I mean every harsh word though :-) It's crappy show!
...you are wrong. Not everyone can like every show out there, I'm sure you'll find what you like.
39 Reply by paisley1 2021-10-02 00:40:57 (edited by paisley1 2021-10-02 05:46:53)
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
Maybe I'm just too Canadian, as women run and operate everything here, where 67% of women are in the workforce, so my argument then is Canadian women will be fine, lolz , perhaps the rest of the world's women will be f#cked. Women in the world work force is 40% and women in the STEM Fields is varied but still lots of representation! Remember, just because they are under represented now, doesn't mean they are not represented at all, but they are, and in every aspect of society. All resource needs would be cut in half, so the power, water, and heat facilities would only need to run at half capacity, where again, women are very well represented to run those facilities. I am convinced that in full survival mode, when put in a life or death, sink or swim situation, women tend to swim, and the pressure to survive would drive innovation and unity, not dystopian chaos and division. Nature would find a way. The problem would be existential. Why work or survive when they know they will all grow too old to maintain the basic necessities, without babies and children to replace them and take care of them? Why live when the future is so uncertain. Depression and mass suicide sounds more likely at first, then social security measures, then redistribution of labor, then after safe studies of this disease with regards to artificial insemination, it would be mass impregnation of the willing to be cared for and coupled with older women who can't bare children or work. Other than suspending disbelief of the problem I described above, it's a super easy watch, I enjoy it, especially the spy story, she's like Bourne.
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
paisley1 wrote:Maybe I'm just too Canadian, as women run and operate everything here, where 67% of women are in the workforce, so my argument then is Canadian women will be fine, lolz , perhaps the rest of the world's women will be f#cked. Women in the world work force is 40% and women in the STEM Fields is varied but still lots of representation! Remember, just because they are under represented now, doesn't mean they are not represented at all, but they are, and in every aspect of society. All resource needs would be cut in half, so the power, water, and heat facilities would only need to run at half capacity, where again, women are very well represented to run those facilities.
It's not that easy... I've watched a documentary about the water and sewage systems in a European country. Aside from the fact that men represented about 99% of the workforce visible in that documentary, you can't for example run a sewage system at just half capacity. The system was built for a certain population and needs a certain volume of sewage throughput to operate.
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
lighton wrote:It's not that easy... I've watched a documentary about the water and sewage systems in a European country. Aside from the fact that men represented about 99% of the workforce visible in that documentary, you can't for example run a sewage system at just half capacity. The system was built for a certain population and needs a certain volume of sewage throughput to operate.
That's what I mean about labor redistribution which bears with it certain logistical issues that would need to be figured out (and make for great TV like Skipper suggested), like relocating women into jobs in all sectors, where they can manage facilities that require a certain level of maintenance in spite of use, that is, whether those facilities are on or off. What's funny, is that I think such a premise would expose how much "fat", wasted spending, and incompetence there is in the workforce! That would be a better message for this show, than a chaotic dystopian! Also, they'd just need to take care of what already exists, and not need to build anything unessential, because the population will only decrease. Again, women are far more resilient, competent and capable of practical jobs, than this show, and it's brain washed audience, are willing to admit.
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
I haven't watched it yet but I've been interested enough in the premise to read a few reviews to make up my mind but it sounds an awful lot like a show designed to be essentially all about female empowerment is portraying women as incapable of running society without men....
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
proteinnerd wrote:I haven't watched it yet but I've been interested enough in the premise to read a few reviews to make up my mind but it sounds an awful lot like a show designed to be essentially all about female empowerment is portraying women as incapable of running society without men....
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
Just thought of this: How was nuking other countries not the first topic of discussion? Why were NK, Russia, Iran, etc not namedropped?
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
imadsani wrote:Just thought of this: How was nuking other countries not the first topic of discussion? Why were NK, Russia, Iran, etc not namedropped?
Easy, they are too busy with drama who told what about who.
46 Reply by paisley1 2021-10-06 20:26:20 (edited by paisley1 2021-10-12 23:58:42)
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
106 was a really stupid concept. How dumb. 107 I liked. Felt believable, for how the events played out. Good twist. Ya I'm still watching this estrogenocalypse.
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
Y: The Last Man Canceled at FX as Its First Season Nearly Ends FX’s adaptation of Y: The Last Man, based on Brian K. Vaughan and Pia Guerra’s 2005 comic, has been canceled. The announcement was made today by showrunner Eliza Clark, who said that FX on Hulu wouldn’t be going forward with a second season. ...At the end of her tweet, she promises that she’ll do her best to bring the show to another platform.
Oh Lordy, I saw this coming from a mile away.
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
imadsani wrote:Y: The Last Man Canceled at FX as Its First Season Nearly Ends FX’s adaptation of Y: The Last Man, based on Brian K. Vaughan and Pia Guerra’s 2005 comic, has been canceled. The announcement was made today by showrunner Eliza Clark, who said that FX on Hulu wouldn’t be going forward with a second season. ...At the end of her tweet, she promises that she’ll do her best to bring the show to another platform.
Oh Lordy, I saw this coming from a mile away.
While I agree, I'm also surprised how much tripe they keep renewing and how much great stuff they cancel, so I've given up guessing.
2020. Meh.
49 Reply by paisley1 2021-10-18 18:16:46 (edited by paisley1 2021-10-18 19:12:03)
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
imadsani wrote:Y: The Last Man Canceled at FX as Its First Season Nearly Ends FX’s adaptation of Y: The Last Man, based on Brian K. Vaughan and Pia Guerra’s 2005 comic, has been canceled. The announcement was made today by showrunner Eliza Clark, who said that FX on Hulu wouldn’t be going forward with a second season. ...At the end of her tweet, she promises that she’ll do her best to bring the show to another platform.
Oh Lordy, I saw this coming from a mile away.
That sucks; I love to hate this show. Probably far too expensive to produce, for the ratings. The production value is superb, this show is solid gritty cable TV, but the story has no hope of engaging a large enough audience to justify a big budget. lolz. I think the straw that broke the camels back was the ▼Spoiler "crazies in the wholesale building" storyline in episodes 106 and 108, it made a dumb story even dumber. Farewell ESTROGENOCALYPSE and/or MENOPAUSACLYPSE.
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Re: Y: The Last Man [Drama, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy] (Sep 13, 2021)
well that doesnt surprise me.it wont be missed
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