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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Sep 24, 2021)

merc wrote:
MeDumbDuck wrote:

This show is wonderful and everyone who disagrees is just wrong.

well many of the paper reviews have been scathing. explain why they and I am wrong. I put that challenge a few posts back. One poor decision in eps 3 was to spent 20 minutes ie 1/3 of the eps waiting to see dusk empire get incinerated. eps 2 having Seldons sidekick knife the guy then in eps 3 as if nothing had happened. very poor writing I think.

Dusks empire was the only part of 103 that I liked, because it's backstory that sets the stage for the reality of the universe we are entering into, the other 2/3's of the episode is what I take issue with, as it's too far in the future, again, a bit like Cloud Atlas but not as bad, as I haven't been properly grounded in the life of this universe yet to care about anyone, and a sign of good storytelling is that they managed to hook me right away, and they didn't, which to me suggests, this still needs work in terms of, "How do we tell this story with such massive scale in terms of timeline, without becoming inert in our ability to develop characters?"

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Sep 24, 2021)

paisley1 wrote:
merc wrote:
MeDumbDuck wrote:

This show is wonderful and everyone who disagrees is just wrong.

well many of the paper reviews have been scathing. explain why they and I am wrong. I put that challenge a few posts back. One poor decision in eps 3 was to spent 20 minutes ie 1/3 of the eps waiting to see dusk empire get incinerated. eps 2 having Seldons sidekick knife the guy then in eps 3 as if nothing had happened. very poor writing I think.

Dusks empire was the only part of 103 that I liked, because it's backstory that sets the stage for the reality of the universe we are entering into, the other 2/3's of the episode is what I take issue with, as it's too far in the future, again, a bit like Cloud Atlas but not as bad, as I haven't been properly grounded in the life of this universe yet to care about anyone, and a sign of good storytelling is that they managed to hook me right away, and they didn't, which to me suggests, this still needs work in terms of, "How do we tell this story with such massive scale in terms of timeline, without becoming inert in our ability to develop characters?"

I think the writers are floundering

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Sep 24, 2021)

Good news! smile

Foundation Renewed for Season 2
https://tvline.com/2021/10/07/foundatio … e-tv-plus/

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Sep 24, 2021)

Not convinced yet, characters and plot dident speak to me yet, except of brief moments.

https://next-episode.net/sig/sig.php?alias=Watchlist&kk=276008292d78a1f619f8bbc10840767b

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Sep 24, 2021)

HomerS wrote:

Not convinced yet, characters and plot dident speak to me yet, except of brief moments.

I've really enjoyed 1x4. smile

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Loved the last few seconds, Gaal shows up again, still in 'hibernation' mode. I had expected something in that direction - interesting that they've waited with that till now...

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Sep 24, 2021)

1x04 was really meh.

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Sep 24, 2021)

paisley1 wrote:

1x04 was really meh.

The entire show is heading that way
It seems to be all over the place with very little happening

DRM "manages access" in the same way that Prison "manages freedom".
http://xkcd.com/488/

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Sep 24, 2021)

paisley1 wrote:

1x04 was really meh.

I havent seen that yet but wouldnt surprise me.

lighton wrote:
HomerS wrote:

Not convinced yet, characters and plot dident speak to me yet, except of brief moments.

I've really enjoyed 1x4. smile

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Loved the last few seconds, Gaal shows up again, still in 'hibernation' mode. I had expected something in that direction - interesting that they've waited with that till now...

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so she will get done for killing Seldon? if not why not as his sidekick dumped the knife in her pod ncriminating her

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Sep 24, 2021)

merc wrote:
lighton wrote:
HomerS wrote:

Not convinced yet, characters and plot dident speak to me yet, except of brief moments.

I've really enjoyed 1x4. smile

Spoiler

Loved the last few seconds, Gaal shows up again, still in 'hibernation' mode. I had expected something in that direction - interesting that they've waited with that till now...

Spoiler

so she will get done for killing Seldon? if not why not as his sidekick dumped the knife in her pod ncriminating her

Who knows (but I have a theory)! Be patient and I'm sure it'll be revealed. cool

By the way... why do you read spoilers before watching the episode? big_smile

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Sep 24, 2021)

Wizard wrote:
paisley1 wrote:

1x04 was really meh.

The entire show is heading that way
It seems to be all over the place with very little happening

Salvor Hardin is supposed to be male and so is Gaal Dornick, but more than affirmative action and liberal political correctness asserting it's position into everything, it's how often these characters refer to past events without showing them that it makes the show bland and disconnected, like, we haven't seen those past events that they talk about to care enough about the current ones.  It's annoying on multiple levels.

I like the Trantor story though.

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Sep 24, 2021)

paisley1 wrote:
Wizard wrote:
paisley1 wrote:

1x04 was really meh.

The entire show is heading that way
It seems to be all over the place with very little happening

Salvor Hardin is supposed to be male and so is Gaal Dornick, but more than affirmative action and liberal political correctness asserting it's position into everything, it's how often these characters refer to past events without showing them that it makes the show bland and disconnected, like, we haven't seen those past events that they talk about to care enough about the current ones.  It's annoying on multiple levels.

I like the Trantor story though.

maybe things are hotting up? midday empire is going to terminus and those guys have that big  gun pointing into the sky?  I will have to skim read the book again to see what is supposed to happen

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Sep 24, 2021)

105 was great; I like the set for Gaal Dornick's spaceship and her story kept me invested to the end, but I couldn't help but cheer for the bad guys, that is, the

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enemy uprising on Terminus, as I find the portrayal of Salvor Hardin annoying, as well as everyone that's apart of the Foundation.

The amount of point blank gunfire misses throughout has got to be a new record for an episode of television! lol  Had some strong SG1 vibes.

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Sep 24, 2021)

paisley1 wrote:

105 was great; I like the set for Gaal Dornick's spaceship and her story kept me invested to the end, but

Spoiler

I couldn't help but cheer for the enemy uprising on Terminus;

I can barely tolerate Salvor Hardin.  The amount of point blank gunfire misses thoughout has got to be a new record for an episode of television! lol  Had some strong SG1 vibes.


The universe seems to be populated by crack special ops troops who can't hit the broad side of a barn at 50M. I think I was more accurate with my pellet gun when I was eight. Perhaps they have all been through the same weapons training that the Imperial Storm Troopers took?

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Sep 24, 2021)

Yeah, I also enjoyed 1x5, and also found that a bit weird. smile

And, everyone (and paisley1 specifically): please add spoiler tags when revealing something new.

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Sep 24, 2021)

bvereshagen wrote:

The universe seems to be populated by crack special ops troops who can't hit the broad side of a barn at 50M. I think I was more accurate with my pellet gun when I was eight. Perhaps they have all been through the same weapons training that the Imperial Storm Troopers took?

lol  I know!  The technology is too sophisticated to miss that bad.  I'm a better shot with a sight that's out, than that hilarious scene; it kinda reminded me of Adam Sandler in Murder Mystery; comical.  The rest of episode 105 was great though.

@Lighton, I reworded my thoughts and updated the spoiler.  It's difficult to know what constitutes a spoiler, I thought I was pretty vague.  Sorry if I ruined that for anyone.

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Sep 24, 2021)

106, so boring.  I think this is the type of show that needs to be binged per season, all the way through.

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Dawn's story of hunting, dating, color blindness, skepticism of the Empire, and general rebellious streak was great, everything else was a lot of lead up. Raych seeing Salvor time travelling during the stabbing, felt like Rey touching the lightsaber in Star Wars.  Sorta an obvious foregone conclusion Raych was forced to kill Harry due to the math, blah blah blah, I think everyone would assume that by how they're approaching this material; the deflationary approach, lolz.

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Re: Foundation [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Sep 24, 2021)

paisley1 wrote:

... I think this is the type of show that needs to be binged per season, all the way through.

I have to agree with this. Shows with large heady story arcs like this I think should be released in bunches or all at once. I like the the idea of releasing several episodes / week (say bunches of 3) better than the slow drip of 1/week.

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I liked this episode because it showed us just how weak the Cleons really are even when as they are strong. Showing us Dawn has a 'human' side is really just showing us that even with all the technology and the practices in place, humanity - in all its randomness - is breaking through in the Cleons. Showing Dusk actually set Dawn up with the Concubine in order to get information out of him, shows the distrust the Cleons have between themselves, another human weakness. Also, I think the point of the scene that Salvo "Mind-Tripped" to between Raych and Seldon was important to remind the viewers that even with a giant inescapable mathematical prediction of the future, the weakness in the plan is that at key moments, everything can come down to just one, or a small number of decisions made by as few as one human.