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Topic: The Nevers [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Joss Whedon)
https://next-episode.net/the-nevers
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The Nevers, an epic science fiction drama about a gang of Victorian women who find themselves with unusual abilities, relentless enemies, and a mission that might change the world.
The latest show from Joss Whedon! Should come out in April.
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Re: The Nevers [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Joss Whedon)
With Joss Whedon behind it, an amazing cast, and HBO putting it all together, this has to be good!  The linked (teaser) trailer looks very promising, check it out. 
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Looks nice, trailer has https://next-episode.net/taboo-uk feel to it (for which I'm still waiting damn next season )
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Re: The Nevers [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Joss Whedon)
A victorian Buffy you say? Why not. Yup looks interesting, gonna check it out
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Re: The Nevers [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Joss Whedon)
Let's talk about Joss Whedon accusations here: https://forum.next-episode.net/viewtopic.php?id=10540 This thread is just for discussion the show.
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Re: The Nevers [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Joss Whedon)
I guess it really comes down to how much input Joss had before he left....does it even qualify as a Joss Whedon show he if wasn't working on it when it actually started production?
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proteinnerd wrote:I guess it really comes down to how much input Joss had before he left....does it even qualify as a Joss Whedon show he if wasn't working on it when it actually started production?
HBO ordered the show in July 2018, filming started July 2019, Whedon exited November 2020. So it clearly is a Joss Whedon show.
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Awesome, we should get at least 1 good season out of it then!
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Just watched the trailer, looks terrible, I'll pass.
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paisley1 wrote:Just watched the trailer, looks terrible, I'll pass.
Ok, thanks for letting us all know.
2020. Meh.
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graybags wrote:paisley1 wrote:Just watched the trailer, looks terrible, I'll pass.
Ok, thanks for letting us all know.
You're very welcome, lol.
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Watched 1x1. It was slightly less good than I had expected, but still totally worth watching. Off to a good start.
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I watched episode 1 some bits were good others less so. Not sure whether it is for me, which is surprising, I will give it 2 more before I decide but I suspect that will be it unless it improves.
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It was ok, I'll stick for now. Anyone else find the score a bit obtrusive?
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Watched 1x2. Interesting twist at the end (who the 'evil doctor' character is working for...) - didn't see that coming. mrverene wrote:It was ok, I'll stick for now. Anyone else find the score a bit obtrusive?
Not me.
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I was looking forward to this, I've really enjoyed Whedon's previous TV work and have watch most of them multiple times (except Dollhouse, although I enjoyed that the once) I think I've just become way too jaded by Hollywoods obsession with Woke culture though, am I the only person that saw it like this.....I'm kinda hoping I'm over-reacting and seeing stuff that isn't there because I just want to enjoy another show. All I could see was
1. Strong, Intelligent, independent female leads (which I have no problem with)
2. They repeatedly beat the crap out of multiple grown men attacking them at the same time, thugs no less that were obviously used to fighting. (Its a superhero show so I'll give it a pass and say they gain extra human strength with the rest of their abilities even thoughts isn't even hinted at by the show)
3. Virtually every white male was either part of an evil shadowy conspiracy actively degrading women, a drunken sex obsessed fop, a corrupt cop, a thug, a "beggar king".
4.The only white male portrayed in any positive light was the quite feminine, awkward, non-threatening, non-masculine Hugh Grant wannabe.
5.The only other male portrayed in a positive light was of course black. Thats just off episode 1, I haven't seen 2 yet, maybe it changes or maybe I'm seeing crap that isn't really there?
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proteinnerd: I'm suffering the same affliction as you i'm afraid, since I saw much of the same. As I do with every show nowadays. But i'm going to try a few more episodes, maybe it will grow on me.
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proteinnerd wrote:Thats just off episode 1, I haven't seen 2 yet, maybe it changes or maybe I'm seeing crap that isn't really there?
Watch 1x2, it changes. Maybe it doesn't change enough for you, but maybe it does. 
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Re: The Nevers [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Joss Whedon)
All that aside, it's not too bad a show
DRM "manages access" in the same way that Prison "manages freedom". http://xkcd.com/488/
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I've watched 2 so far and it's getting better, whether it stays that way is anyones guess
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Re: The Nevers [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Joss Whedon)
I have to say I'm disappointed. It kind of feels like a Joss Whedon thing, but not quite. I think he only stayed for the first few eps anyway, then *ahem* left. Maybe without him it'll be better? It's a bit all over the place and it's not getting great reviews from what I've seen. It's certainly not the next Buffy or Firefly, that's for damn sure.
2020. Meh.
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graybags wrote:I have to say I'm disappointed. It kind of feels like a Joss Whedon thing, but not quite. I think he only stayed for the first few eps anyway, then *ahem* left. Maybe without him it'll be better? It's a bit all over the place and it's not getting great reviews from what I've seen. It's certainly not the next Buddy or Firefly, that's for damn sure.
Yes, maybe not the next Firefly, but the show is still pretty good! And at least a 7.2/10 IMDb rating. Watched 1x3: ▼Spoiler Great Odium/Amalia over-water/under-water fight scene! IMHO it would have been even cooler if Odium's body had sunk/ behaved like a normal body (with a heavy metal chain around the neck) after his death, given that most turns are not 'turned on' all of the time.
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Re: The Nevers [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Joss Whedon)
lighton wrote:And at least a 7.2/10 IMDb rating.
I take what both IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes say with a pinch of salt. And what alot of people here say too
2020. Meh.
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Re: The Nevers [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Joss Whedon)
graybags wrote:lighton wrote:And at least a 7.2/10 IMDb rating.
I take what both IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes say with a pinch of salt. And what alot of people here say too
Sure, but after a show or movie gets at least about a thousand votes the ratings tend to be meaningful enough to be useful IMHO.
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