The Nevers [Drama, Sci-Fi] (Joss Whedon) (Page 1 of 2)

With Joss Whedon behind it, an amazing cast, and HBO putting it all together, this has to be good!

The linked (teaser) trailer looks very promising, check it out.

A victorian Buffy you say? Why not.

Yup looks interesting, gonna check it out

I guess it really comes down to how much input Joss had before he left....does it even qualify as a Joss Whedon show  he if wasn't working on it when it actually started production?

Awesome, we should get at least 1 good season out of it then!

Ok, thanks for letting us all know.

Watched 1x1. It was slightly less good than I had expected, but still totally worth watching. Off to a good start.

It was ok, I'll stick for now. Anyone else find the score a bit obtrusive?

I was looking forward to this, I've really enjoyed Whedon's previous TV work and have watch most of them multiple times (except Dollhouse, although I enjoyed that the once)

I think I've just become way too jaded by Hollywoods obsession with Woke culture though, am I the only person that saw it like this.....I'm kinda hoping I'm over-reacting and seeing stuff that isn't there because I just want to enjoy another show.

All I could see was
1. Strong, Intelligent, independent female leads (which I have no problem with)
2. They repeatedly beat the crap out of multiple grown men attacking them at the same time, thugs no less that were obviously used to fighting. (Its a superhero show so I'll give it a pass and say they gain extra human strength with the rest of their abilities even thoughts isn't even hinted at by the show)
3. Virtually every white male was either part of an evil shadowy conspiracy actively degrading women, a drunken sex obsessed fop, a corrupt cop, a thug, a "beggar king".
4.The only white male portrayed in any positive light was the quite feminine, awkward, non-threatening, non-masculine Hugh Grant wannabe.
5.The only other male portrayed in a positive light was of course black.

Thats just off episode 1, I haven't seen 2 yet, maybe it changes or maybe I'm seeing crap that isn't really there?

Watch 1x2, it changes.

Maybe it doesn't change enough for you, but maybe it does.

I have to say I'm disappointed.  It kind of feels like a Joss Whedon thing, but not quite.  I think he only stayed for the first few eps anyway, then *ahem* left.  Maybe without him it'll be better?  It's a bit all over the place and it's not getting great reviews from what I've seen.  It's certainly not the next Buffy or Firefly, that's for damn sure.

I take what both IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes say with a pinch of salt.  And what alot of people here say too