1 (edited by TheFizza 2020-05-19 13:50:25)

Topic: Our Girl (BBC)

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When EastEnder Molly Dawes (Lacey Turner) turned 18 she realizes her life has no purpose and decides to join the army as a medic. We follow her from day one through her deployment in Afghanistan attached to a British Army Infantry somewhere in Helmand.
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I just watched this show during the lockdown and was wondering if anyone else has an opinion?

I devoured the first series in one sitting, finding it surprisingly well balanced and multifaceted. Still entertainment, at it's heart, and well executed but with layers that might surprise and delight even Spike Lee, I'm sure.

The narrative and emotional arc of Series One was deep and impressive even as it plays the usual tropes of the genre. You have Molly Dawes disobeying orders, dancing on land mines and courting romance in-between fire-fights, tourniquets and social satire. The overall arc has so much meat to it you could spend time focusing on all the goodies which make up the bag of treats, from the loud to the subtle. But for me S1, which begins with Molly's entrance into the army and follows her throughout her tour, is about more than class or gender or race... it's responsibility.

Even there you can see many different representations of "responsibility" played in about as many ways ways as they can be interpreted. It's layered and messy and engrossing and just about as satisfying a program as you're lucky to get... and then Series Two happens and the "imperfect characters" are replaced by "exploited" two-dimensional doppelgängers. Sure, to some extent it does make sense that the flawed "Our Girl" from S1 having grown can be replaced by another "Girl" who can take on that growth only it doesn't. Georgie Lane isn't a character in need of growth so much as a conversation about intimacy with her 'love interest' (maybe couples counseling, at most) and the controversial War is replaced with a 'humanity mission' providing us the classic "white savior trope", which S1 doesn't even pass on the Tub.

It seems to get more mediocre as it goes on seemingly selling all the edge and appeal of S1 to the highest bidder. I would like to say that, "to their credit the people making the series realized how impressive S1 was and tried to keep is sacrosanct by creating this 'spin-off like' S2 but really it just feels like the sub-par TV version of a good movie. Less "M*A*S*H" and more "Police Academy: The Series"

Also replacing of the main character with a character who's look is more uniform with TV ascetics was disappointing. Maybe the evolution of this television program is less the 'sell-out' it seems from my point of view, but it still feels like a spiritual sister to Jurassic Park II

This is an active show with the probability of more episodes to come... so what am I missing? Or am I missing something? Was this always the UK Rizzoli & Isles of war? Is this just the what any television show becomes once it runs its course? Or does it matter as long as it's still going?

Anyone with an opinion?

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Re: Our Girl (BBC)

I've added the show link and image to your post.

The show's ratings are surprisingly good. The trailer didn't do it for me (at all), but it reminded me of https://next-episode.net/tom-clancys-jack-ryan, which I totally enjoyed.

3 (edited by TheFizza 2020-05-19 14:21:36)

Re: Our Girl (BBC)

lighton wrote:

I've added the show link and image to your post.

The show's ratings are surprisingly good. The trailer didn't do it for me (at all), but it reminded me of https://next-episode.net/tom-clancys-jack-ryan, which I totally enjoyed.

Thank you.

The trailers is a bit all over the place, especially with S1... a lot are focused on the lead character's training which was just the first two episodes, like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldqRj0F3EQ0

It's not as Private Benjamin as it might seem. This trailer is not to bad, if a little sparse: https://www.imdb.com/video/vi457881369?

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4 (edited by HomerS 2020-05-19 19:26:15)

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Wait is this the same actress like in the trailer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVEpyBZ_9BU

If so, not sure but it seems that in UK shows they want to make their actors more life like *cough* "uglier" and in US shows, it seems the other way round.
I admit i prefer when the actors are more attractive so i can easier identify with them or desire them.

If she would have looked like that in the trailer, i would have insta watched it wink but so my first reaction after watching the trailer was nope, but after seeing the interview i might check out the pilot.

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5 (edited by TheFizza 2020-05-23 18:08:45)

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HomerS wrote:

Wait is this the same actress like in the trailer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVEpyBZ_9BU

If so, not sure but it seems that in UK shows they want to make their actors more life like *cough* "uglier" and in US shows, it seems the other way round.
I admit i prefer when the actors are more attractive so i can easier identify with them or desire them.

If she would have looked like that in the trailer, i would have insta watched it wink but so my first reaction after watching the trailer was nope, but after seeing the interview i might check out the pilot.

No. S1 had a different "Girl" and was almost an entirely different show. The actress in that trailer came on in S2 when I felt the program went from brilliant to basic. If you've seen the S1 trailer then you caught the original actress, who IMO looked like a regular person but then this actress took over once they watered down the satire. I feel like the new one looks like she could be on a CW show, and that's fine I love a lot of CW series (speaking of, The 100 returns tonight). But due to the change the series feels less realistic, to me.

I mean we all have our own preferences when it comes to what we like to see in a television program but I believe when you have a character who is just a regular G.I. Jane (or Joe) and you have someone who looks like a 'regular person' to follow, well most folks are more apt to identify with them. Especially when they are playing a roll like this, army medic from a lower/struggling social straits... I am not of the same background as her but I can believe who the character was due to the actress they chose to play her.

As someone with friends and family in the military (as many people do) I, myself, am also more apt to believe the average looking 19 year old with no prospects is more true to what kind of person takes this choice to join up.

Anyway HomerS if you're interested in the series because of that actress you might do better to just start with the second series. She comes on in S2E1 and, as I said, it seems like a much different program from that point on.

That being said S1 does have of Iwan Rheon of Simon Bellamy (Misfits) and Ramsay Bolton (GoT) fame.

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HomerS wrote:

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I admit i prefer when the actors are more attractive so i can easier identify with them or desire them.

If she would have looked like that in the trailer, i would have insta watched it wink

I can't relate to this even in the slightest..
TV/films are about the story, the acting, the cinematography etc.
How you can decide whether to watch something based on how attractive they are blows my mind it really does.

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Deke wrote:
HomerS wrote:

I admit i prefer when the actors are more attractive so i can easier identify with them or desire them.

If she would have looked like that in the trailer, i would have insta watched it wink

I can't relate to this even in the slightest..
TV/films are about the story, the acting, the cinematography etc.
How you can decide whether to watch something based on how attractive they are blows my mind it really does.

While attractiveness shouldn't be a factor, it probably still is to some extent. Attractiveness affects many things, even judges' sentencing:

When I started looking into this subject, I predicted a person’s physical attractiveness would only have minor advantages. I was wrong.

In fact, I was so wrong, that in one study, the effects of physical attractiveness on judges were so influential, they fined unattractive criminals 304.88% higher than attractive criminals.

https://www.thelawproject.com.au/insigh … gal-system