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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
merc_1 wrote:well eps 8 is better ( took a long time to get there) but I think the series should have been sold under the DC/Marvel Amazon (women) metahumans/inhumans banner rather than witches, which is silly and has no real mileage there is very little witch like about their abilities
You know, this is one of the days I think about the 3 big mysteries of the universe:
- what exactly happens in supermassive black holes with billions of times the mass of our sun?
- how does quantum entanglement work in detail and what does it mean for our future?
- what goes on in merc_1's brain? 
The show has a 7.1 IMDb rating, so the witches theme seems to work well for most people.
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
merc_1 wrote:well eps 8 is better ( took a long time to get there) but I think the series should have been sold under the DC/Marvel Amazon (women) metahumans/inhumans banner rather than witches, which is silly and has no real mileage there is very little witch like about their abilities
The witch thing refers back to the times when women were overtly persecuted for doing their own thing and not being good little obedient wives. There is a theme here. It's just something that requires a little thought. As in, not on the surface and all obvious and finger pointy, like it was back in the day...
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
Lollie wrote:merc_1 wrote:well eps 8 is better ( took a long time to get there) but I think the series should have been sold under the DC/Marvel Amazon (women) metahumans/inhumans banner rather than witches, which is silly and has no real mileage there is very little witch like about their abilities
The witch thing refers back to the times when women were overtly persecuted for doing their own thing and not being good little obedient wives. There is a theme here. It's just something that requires a little thought. As in, not on the surface and all obvious and finger pointy, like it was back in the day...
but thats a rather poor backstory for a show.
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
merc_1 wrote:but thats a rather poor backstory for a show.
Did you consider that it's a perfect backstory and that the show just isn't for you? 
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
lighton wrote:merc_1 wrote:but thats a rather poor backstory for a show.
Did you consider that it's a perfect backstory and that the show just isn't for you?
Exactly. The backstory is a spotlight on like everything women went through.
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
lighton wrote:merc_1 wrote:but thats a rather poor backstory for a show.
Did you consider that it's a perfect backstory and that the show just isn't for you?
take away the silly backstory and you get a decent show
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
merc_1 wrote:lighton wrote:merc_1 wrote:but thats a rather poor backstory for a show.
Did you consider that it's a perfect backstory and that the show just isn't for you?
take away the silly backstory and you get a decent show
Yes. Silly women and their silly history! 
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
Lollie wrote:merc_1 wrote:lighton wrote:merc_1 wrote:but thats a rather poor backstory for a show.
Did you consider that it's a perfect backstory and that the show just isn't for you?
take away the silly backstory and you get a decent show
Yes. Silly women and their silly history!
really very little to do with women just a sub species of them and there are also the virile men versions which gave us a sex episode lol. So I dont think your argument holds water
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merc_1 wrote:Lollie wrote:merc_1 wrote:lighton wrote:Did you consider that it's a perfect backstory and that the show just isn't for you?
take away the silly backstory and you get a decent show
Yes. Silly women and their silly history!
really very little to do with women just a sub species of them and there are also the virile men versions which gave us a sex episode lol. So I dont think your argument holds water
It's not an argument, it's history. But you might notice (or you might not notice) what they did with it to make the show's story work. You try figure it out.
35 Reply by merc 2020-08-10 10:46:30 (edited by merc_1 2020-08-10 10:48:25)
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
I have figured it out. I can enjoy the show as long as I think they are metahumans. If I want witches I'll watch Charmed
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some_one wrote:merc_1 wrote:"Charmed" in army fatigues? I have yet to watch this.
No, not Charmed. Think maybe halfway between Harry Potter and Full Metal Jacket. Not really either, but a bit of both.
I just stumbled upon your post and again smiled when I read "halfway between Harry Potter and Full Metal Jacket". 
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
Motherland: Fort Salem Season 2 Gets Summer Premiere on Freeform
https://tvline.com/2021/02/26/motherlan … es-summer/ The exact date should be announced soon... (I hope)
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
This site says June 23rd?
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
Here are two season 2 teasers: https://youtu.be/b5w6zSaID9E
https://youtu.be/05xhW50b5dI And here's some FUN from season 1! Motherland: Fort Salem | Season 1 Blooper Reel | Freeform
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsMyNwDxERo
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
I had been looking forward to 2x1, and what can I say... it didn't disappoint! I decided to watch it with the volume cranked up a bit above normal, and that made the witch voice/ vocal scenes much more intense.
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
Any one still watching this? ▼Spoiler Season 2 is getting interresting with the magic mushroom ( that doesnt give anythng away?). I still think the witch connection spoils the show as it goes up against too much traditional ideas of potions and spells and magic that is jarring. Any way fun to see the blond "fixer/outcross" scream her head off. Any one care to rexplain what that is as I couldnt make out the dialogue
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
I would explain but I have no idea what you are talking about.
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
lighton wrote:I would explain but I have no idea what you are talking about.
▼Spoiler The mother of them all witch descibed by the blond one with the side hair as a mothballed sea hag called her a fixer/outcross. I think her friend explained this but I couldnt make out the dialogue
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
merc wrote:lighton wrote:I would explain but I have no idea what you are talking about.
▼Spoiler The mother of them all witch descibed by the blond one with the side hair as a mothballed sea hag called her a fixer/outcross. I think her friend explained this but I couldnt make out the dialogue
Ah... I only vaguely recall that scene, I don't think you missed anything important.
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
Raelle the blonde one with the scar on her left face is an Outcross - that means she is not a pure witch ie a halfbreed with one parent a witch the other not ( in this case the father)
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
Alright. There's quite a bit of witch vocabulary that's not explained - but also not vital to understand what's happening.
47 Reply by merc 2021-08-01 08:56:13 (edited by merc 2021-08-01 09:31:25)
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
lighton wrote:Alright. There's quite a bit of witch vocabulary that's not explained - but also not vital to understand what's happening.
I learnt this from the only? active podcast on this show. ( there is another one I found but seems like it stopped after season 1) This sort of thing is more important than you think. Here is another nugget from the podcast. Look at the map of the USA in the opening credits. Where the USA is divided into 2 parts with a slice of land callled the Cession.According to the podcast this was the price the fledgling US govt had to pay to the natives to give Gen Alder through the biddies an extended life - The US govt at the time valued her so much ( witchcarft was used to defeat the British ); Gen Alders extended life was not a power grab by her. This makes you see her in completley different light? So the Cession is where these "outcrosses" flourish with their non canon magic. ( not sure whether to put this in as a spoiler as it is just an explanation of the opening credits) By the way Raelle's scar is actually real not a cosmetic part piece. The actor Taylor Hickson put her fist through a" glass" window on another show, as part of the show and things didn't go well she had to have stitches
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
"A day ahead of the season two finale, the Disney-backed cabler has handed out a third and final season renewal for drama series Motherland: Fort Salem."
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv … 235001608/ So they get to wrap up everything properly. Nice!
49 Reply by merc 2021-08-24 10:46:27 (edited by merc 2021-08-24 10:46:49)
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
A show that grows on you. I only wish Adil would put his kid sister in her place, she is only a kid who is wet behind her ears ( like Greta T)
50 Reply by merc 2021-08-25 12:28:21 (edited by merc 2021-08-25 12:29:41)
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Re: Motherland: Fort Salem [Drama, Fantasy, Sci-Fi]
just watched the last episode very exciting - they could have used a few machine guns? how long for season 3?
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