I have now watched the 2 season again and think they should all be watched soon after one another. This is a great show not unblemished  though. This is what Star Wars should have been rather than the juvenile antics that the films were.

I wouldn't call the Star Wars movies juvenile but rather "what dreams are made of" - and Andor is on the contrary the "harsh reality" of the world the story resides in.

And we can also agree that Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie we have gotten since the Prequel trilogy

%100 Agree.

@WDM - I'd argue the complete inverse of what you're saying about the TV series to Rogue One, that the show just needed to write reasons for Cassians behaviour to match up with Rogue One, not the other way around, and if it didn't track the show is wrong.

I started this series thinking of only the moment in this picture, and why write a story about him when we know his end?

Agreed, can be seen from both perspecitves. It's a "chicken or the egg?" kinda situation.

Let's say you are new to Star Wars and start watching in chronological order. So first Andor and then Rogue One. You would think the Cassian in Rogue One is not quite the character you got to know the past 24 episodes / hours. And vice versa if you start in the order of release.

I did watch Rogue One first but I also think chronological order is quite important - but yeah that can be put on Andor as well.
I still do like the Cassian from Andor better - especially the killing of Tivik put me off, did not remember that part.

And we can also agree that Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie we have gotten since the Prequel trilogy

lighton wrote:

graybags wrote:

lighton wrote:

I meant survive this series, I remembered that he was in the movie. I have zero recollection of what happened in the movie. Gonna rewatch it now.

A few didn't die, watch the film and you'll see exactly who.

Yeah, watched Rogue One now... It's good, but it felt like a bit of a let-down compared to Andor.

But... but... What?  Eh?  Erm...  God no.

I'm with Graybags on this, God no!  Rogue One is one of the best Star Wars films out of all of them, it gives good reason why it was so laughably easy almost silly for Luke to destroy the Death Star in A New Hope and Landau in Return of the Jedi, and how vitally important getting those plans were to the entire Star Wars story.

@WDM - I'd argue the complete inverse of what you're saying about the TV series to Rogue One, that the show just needed to write reasons for Cassians behaviour to match up with Rogue One, not the other way around, and if it didn't track the show is wrong.

I started this series thinking of only the moment in this picture, and why write a story about him when we know his end?

lighton wrote:

graybags wrote:

lighton wrote:

I meant survive this series, I remembered that he was in the movie. I have zero recollection of what happened in the movie. Gonna rewatch it now.

A few didn't die, watch the film and you'll see exactly who.

Yeah, watched Rogue One now... It's good, but it felt like a bit of a let-down compared to Andor.

But... but... What?  Eh?  Erm...  God no.

Have to agree with Lighton on this one. I also rewatched Rogue One after last EP of Andor and a lot of things have changed this time around.

Since Rogue One is a few years old, I spare me the spoilers:
- Andor killing Tivik now felt way off. Now if Tivik would've betrayed Andor ok, but he was only slowing down the escape - I don't think the Andor we now know would've killed him.

- One of the reasons to bring Jyn into the mix was her relationship with Saw Gerrera. But now we have Willmon as well, who is a good friend of Cassian and knows not only Saw but maybe even some of his people. Would've made sense to bring him along.

- Killing Galen Erso is probably the most Luthen-like order they could've given. Since the Rebellion didn't like his tactics this feels way off now.

- With the last few episodes it was clear how newcomers and even rulebreakers were treated on Yavin, with a lot of suspicion - rightfully so. Now compare those scenes with the Council from Andor to Rogue One, when Jyn tries to convince them to go to Scarif - in the show "Andor" no one would've believed or followed Jyn - it should've been Andor making the argument.

- Seeing the group of people who follows them to Scarif and not seeing Kleya or Vel there just feels off now.

Still a good movie and I also still think they did a good job tying it together, but there are a few loose ends.

graybags wrote:

lighton wrote:

graybags wrote:

You've mis-remembered then

I meant survive this series, I remembered that he was in the movie. I have zero recollection of what happened in the movie. Gonna rewatch it now.

A few didn't die, watch the film and you'll see exactly who.

Yeah, watched Rogue One now... It's good, but it felt like a bit of a let-down compared to Andor.

But... but... What?  Eh?  Erm...  God no.

lighton wrote:

graybags wrote:

lighton wrote:

Since so many years have passed since Rogue One, I only remembered that the main character survives.

You've mis-remembered then

I meant survive this series, I remembered that he was in the movie. I have zero recollection of what happened in the movie. Gonna rewatch it now.

A few didn't die, watch the film and you'll see exactly who.

Yeah, watched Rogue One now... It's good, but it felt like a bit of a let-down compared to Andor.

graybags wrote:

lighton wrote:

Since so many years have passed since Rogue One, I only remembered that the main character survives.

You've mis-remembered then

I meant survive this series, I remembered that he was in the movie. I have zero recollection of what happened in the movie. Gonna rewatch it now.

A few didn't die, watch the film and you'll see exactly who.

lighton wrote:

Since so many years have passed since Rogue One, I only remembered that the main character survives.

You've mis-remembered then

I meant survive this series, I remembered that he was in the movie. I have zero recollection of what happened in the movie. Gonna rewatch it now.

Since so many years have passed since Rogue One, I only remembered that the main character survives.

You've mis-remembered then

lighton wrote:

Finished it! While I agree that the last 3 episodes were great, I don't think the first x season 2 episodes were bad. I enjoyed the slow burn, leading up to the crescendo towards the end of the season. Worked for me!

P.S.: I also enjoyed Luthen's backstory. Nicely done with us only hearing lots of what was happening, not seeing it.

A slow burn may be cool when you have the old 20+ episodes per season. But when you only get 12 or less, it is simply wasted time. And you have to make each episode count. In the old days they might have had 1 or two filler episodes, but with the seasons shrinking down to 12 or less. You have to keep your fans entertained.

Especially considering the cost of each episode.

I was happy that we got 'so many' episodes! 12 instead of just 6 or 8, like with other shows! It felt like they saved money on the early episodes, thus allowing for 12 episodes. I prefer this over just 6 episodes for the season (of a quality like the last 3 episodes).

Since so many years have passed since Rogue One, I only remembered that the main character survives.

Shame they had to bring in that terrible "The Force be with you" or whatever, at the end, spolit it for me.

You just spoiled spoiled.