Topic: Starcraft 2

Hi, hello and welcome! We gather here today to play some frickin' Starcraft. We don't care if you are good or bad, as long as you are a fun person. Especially you. smile We share our replays, thoughts on them, we talk about tournaments and also we gather to play amongst each other. Come on now, don't be shy.

Here is our old topic: http://forum.next-episode.net/viewtopic.php?id=4592

List of players:

(Polanetary) Fortress Europa:
Orlando: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1092284/1/Orlando/  #437
wckiller: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/636563/1/wckiller/ #278
santah: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/210611/1/santah/ #901
Moze: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/556381/1/Moze/ #882
Bebh: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/234533/1/Bebh/ #153
mlin: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/358719/1/mlin/  #372
Nick: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/542440/1/Nick/ #116
Andy_Soooon: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/581586/1/Silverace/ #247
NewKing: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1912646/1/NewKing/ #745
Deke: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/113 … utlawTorn/ #324
Phuncz: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/188212/1/Phuncz/ #481
mego: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/529858/1/mego/ #852
kacarer: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1875949/1/kacarer/ #557
madboobs: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2353294/1/Dopey/

The United States Kingdom:
Rwings: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/275685/1/Rwings/ #667

NE Divison:
http://sc2ranks.com/c/3266/next-episode/

If you want to be added, login to http://battle.net/en/ and give me your profile url. Also, you need to be placed in a league to be added.

Useful links:
http://sc2casts.com/
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays
http://sc2rep.com/
http://www.teamliquid.net/
http://sc2sig.com/
http://day9tv.blip.tv/

Questions & Anwsers

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Q: But I don't know if the game will run on my computer.
A:

  • 2.6 GHz processor or equivalent

  • 1GB RAM for XP, 1.5GB for Vista and 7; (2GB RAM for Mac OS)

  • 128MB video card Minimum (Mac/Windows) (512MB video card Recommended (Mac/Windows))

  • DirectX version 9.0c or better

  • 12GB hard disk space

  • Internet connection

And don't worry, the game is very well written and it can run on very old computers (like mine!)

Q: How do I add friends?
A: There are two ways, either by character name (you need the name and 3digit number) or by Real-ID friends by e-mail.

Q: What is my character number?
A: Just hover your mouse cursor over your portrait in the game menu or on http://eu.battle.net/en/

Q: How the ladder works?
A: You will play five placement matches and BN will shove you in a specific league and division.

Q: What leagues?
A: Bronze - for n00bs. Silver - better, but still learning. Gold - you're getting somewhere. Platinum - You're good. Diamond - You're really fucking good. Master League - I bow to you. Grandmaster League - Yes, God?

Q: Ok, I played some matches, but how am I suppose to know what I did wrong.
A: Watch the replays and if you're not to shy, create an account here and give us a link. A group of specialized monkeys will analyze your rep and give you a feedback.

Q: Is there a way for me to learn the game?
A: Besides playing it? Check the ingame challenges (complete them all) and go to this videos: http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/3732340/ http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/4712303/ http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/4890848/ http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/5229698 which will really help you.

Q: I like him! Who is he?
A: Sean "Day9" Plott, a high level commentator and SCII analyzer, here is his yt account, video archive and live stream.

Q: Can I somehow follow more casts?
A: Of course, all thanks to this awesome site: http://sc2casts.com/
A: And here is a replay site: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays

SC2 guide by mlin:

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1) Spend money
Being rich is bad in Starcraft. A L W A Y S. If you have more than 500 minerals it means you're doing smth wrong. If you have a production building and it's not making anything, it's bad. Toss players should remember about warping in units every cooldown cycle and zergies should have a timer to remind them to inject larvae. Remember - spend, spend, spend!

2) Scout
It's the most important thing in this game. Rarely beginner players have the skill to impose a strategy on other players (i.e. by early gas steals or mind tricks). Ergo you should prefer reactive play. If you see your opponent teching up it means you should push if you went for a lot of tier ones. If he's tier1'ing, hardcounter him and counterpush. Vision is EVERYTHING. Root out the tendency in yourself to turtle up and go mass something without scouting.
Additionally the Zerg should always play with creep - it's a legal map hack and it does not cost anything.

3) Be aggressive
Do not be afraid to push. Learn what are timing pushes and use them. Aggressiveness gives you the ability to safely expand and does a shitload of damage to your opponent's mindset (which is one of the most important things in SC2). Even if you loose, always be the aggressor. There will come a time you'll start winning.

4) Dont cheese
As tempting as it is, cheeses shut you in a world of earlygame and leave out to dry in midgame, if your opponent manages to defend. Learn how to macro, when to expand. Micro will come with time. It's not always about winning.

5) Watch your own replays
Forget about APM, build orders and such. Play with your opponent's vision on and see what he does and try to remember what you did and what you could have done to prevent your loss.

THEN

watch replays of others. Why in such order? Answer the question: how can you understand what is another player doing if you do not understand yourself?

6) Gold the challenges
Not for the achievements. For the skill. It gives you a feel of all the races and teaches the basics of micro and macro.

ONLY AFTER MASTERING ALL THAT, should you try and incorporate build orders, other people's strategies and such. Think of it as first learning how to draw and then reproducing monalisas. If you simply copy BOs and try to learn from them it's like learning how to paint by copying that, what you don't understand.

I hope that will help smile.

2) These are the things you must find out for yourself. I'll give a few examples

Earlygame:
-low workers+no buildings = proxy/cheese/canonrush

vs Zerg (for Terrans)
-scout@10SCVs - zerg has pool = usually 6pool, wall off and pump marines
-@10-15SCVs early gas/2 gas - may indicate 7roach rush or fast one base muta

vs Toss
@10, fast gas may indicate some void cheeses
@13-20, 4gate(or lots of gates) may indicate tier one rush

The Terrans you know smile.

Mid/late game is reactive play smile.

Ad 3) If by defensive you mean "I'll attack when I think my army is sufficient", stop being that smile. @3-4min ingame a 6|3 M|M does wonders. Add stimpacks and your a steamroller wink.

Ad 4) Imho you should know how to play chese and master it to a degree to know how to prevent one. If you know the mechanics of something you know how to stop making it tick smile.

Moze wrote:

1. Buy workers.

forgot to mention that smile.
always buy workers. Never stop.

a good situation is when you got a fully saturated main and natural and then go to the third with your workers from the main.

The first post is still in build, suggestions are welcomed.

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Re: Starcraft 2

mlin wrote:

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From today. One of my most action-packed games ever. Very micro intensive (for my level anyways smile).

Check this out. Esp you, Orlando smile. This is what you do to proxygate cheeses wink.

You're gonna torture me from now on from what I see here tongue

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Re: Starcraft 2

Nice work there Orlando!

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Re: Starcraft 2

mlin wrote:

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From today. One of my most action-packed games ever. Very micro intensive (for my level anyways smile).

Check this out. Esp you, Orlando smile. This is what you do to proxygate cheeses wink.

Yes I see, well done. smile I just won a ZvZ game, where my opponent did a 6pool, which I discovered very early. A very weak 6pool, but nontheless, a 6pool. smile Though I couldn't even attack back, after 5 minutes of the game when I defended the push, he quited. http://www.sendspace.com/file/zciw36 Thoughts, O Wise One?

Also, 45th rank and 128 points. smile

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Re: Starcraft 2

Orlando wrote:
mlin wrote:

http://rapidshare.com/files/445058467/m … .SC2Replay
From today. One of my most action-packed games ever. Very micro intensive (for my level anyways smile).

Check this out. Esp you, Orlando smile. This is what you do to proxygate cheeses wink.

Yes I see, well done. smile I just won a ZvZ game, where my opponent did a 6pool, which I discovered very early. A very weak 6pool, but nontheless, a 6pool. smile Though I couldn't even attack back, after 5 minutes of the game when I defended the push, he quited. http://www.sendspace.com/file/zciw36 Thoughts, O Wise One?

Also, 45th rank and 128 points. smile


His 6 Pool was awful. You are meant to engage drones so in a line if you do six pool, so that you can get at little surround from drones on your zerglings as possible, he just ran in, attacked the wrong stuff, got surrounded and died.

He lost the game right there and should have gg'd and quit then tbh. Then through wave after wave at you which u easily destroyed. When he quit he had no Gas and no tech, compared to your gas and roach warren on the way. He also had only 7 drones to your 13 which is HUGE lead at that point in the game. Your supply was 18 his was 9, that again is just a staggeringly huge lead.

Zerg V Zerg is very volitile match up, and can usually be won/lost in the first 5-10 minutes.

Re: Starcraft 2

Hey Andy :D since you are here, can you give me your Character number for the first post? :)

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Re: Starcraft 2

A fantastic ZvP game between KiwiKaki vs XlorD:
http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/4692379/

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Re: Starcraft 2

Orlando wrote:
mlin wrote:

http://rapidshare.com/files/445058467/m … .SC2Replay
From today. One of my most action-packed games ever. Very micro intensive (for my level anyways smile).

Check this out. Esp you, Orlando smile. This is what you do to proxygate cheeses wink.

Yes I see, well done. smile I just won a ZvZ game, where my opponent did a 6pool, which I discovered very early. A very weak 6pool, but nontheless, a 6pool. smile Though I couldn't even attack back, after 5 minutes of the game when I defended the push, he quited. http://www.sendspace.com/file/zciw36 Thoughts, O Wise One?

Also, 45th rank and 128 points. smile

Based on what Andy said I don't even have to watch the rep as its probably what happened wink.

gratz!

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Re: Starcraft 2

Yeah, Andy summed it up quite nicely wink Hey, maybe someone wants to play some Starjeweled? smile

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Re: Starcraft 2

Um, can someone explain to me what the fuck just happened? o.O
http://www.sendspace.com/file/z84g3t

I just don't get it what he did. Can anyone translate?

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Re: Starcraft 2

i need a few minutes... gotta repair SC... again... maybe it works this time... if it does, i'll take a look at the replay smile

Re: Starcraft 2

Check also the bad 6pool. smile

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Re: Starcraft 2

Orlando wrote:

Um, can someone explain to me want the fuck just happened? o.O
http://www.sendspace.com/file/z84g3t

I just don't get it what he did.

?? what don't you understand? you killed his thors he quit.....

Re: Starcraft 2

Well maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't quit that quickly. tongue Also, what did he say in the end?

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Weee I did smt funny.

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Re: Starcraft 2

He had put everything into rushing for those two thors so once you had killed them quite quickly he was doomed smile

I have no idea what he was trying to say at the end though.

Re: Starcraft 2

Well ok, I get it. smile I was just suprised.

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Re: Starcraft 2

well...

1) he sucked ass... he sucks worse than i do... i think...
2) you had him by the balls when you killed his Thors
3) he tried to insult you at the end... i think it had something to do with Horses... i think... basically he's been a dick.

Sorry... but some assclowns are like that...

Re: Starcraft 2

That's ok, I'm always glad to win with a douche. smile

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btw. does anyone know if blizzard provides a "total hours spent playing sc2" statistic?

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Re: Starcraft 2

http://www.sendspace.com/file/o4h77k

This to prove how bad I suck smile

Re: Starcraft 2

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You'll learn.

mlin wrote:

btw. does anyone know if blizzard provides a "total hours spent playing sc2" statistic?

I don't think so.

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Re: Starcraft 2

Orlando wrote:

Hey Andy big_smile since you are here, can you give me your Character number for the first post? smile

Yeh sure its 247.

Id be happy to play some team matches for a bit of fun. My 1v1 progression seems to have come to and end, i cant really compete that much anymore with the guys in master league, I have a feeling they play a hell of alot more than me. So I have much more free time now.

Re: Starcraft 2

http://www.sendspace.com/file/yyuuak

my first win... kind of.... I didn't really do anything to deserve this win... he just left/crashed and I got the win... Doesn't feel right... he should've crushed me i think...

What do you think? (yeah, i totally forgot to build a reasonable defense for the 2nd entrance into my base...)

Re: Starcraft 2

That's ok, I also have that kind of 'wins'. smile

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